Best Rock artist of all time
molto soggettivo per tutti i gruppi tranne per i rolling stones, per me sono un gruppo molto SOPRAvvalutato e andrebbero più dietro! inoltre ho inserito i Comus e i Soft Machine che non sono proprio rock ma mi piacciono a tal punto da inserirli.
<b>Jimi Hendrix</b>

1

Jimi Hendrix

Electric Ladyland. Ha rivoluzionato il modo di suonare la chitarra...
<b>Frank Zappa</b>

2

Frank Zappa

Hot Rats. Genio
<b>Santana</b>

3

Santana

Abraxas. Innovatori in tutti i sensi...(la band "Santana", no il chitarrista "Carlos Santana")
<b>Led Zeppelin</b>

4

Led Zeppelin

Led Zeppelin 4. Probabilmente il miglior gruppo rock mai esistito!
<b>Pink Floyd</b>

5

Pink Floyd

The Dark Side Of The Moon. Quando la tecnica non conta!
<b>Deep Purple</b>

6

Deep Purple

Machine Head. Tecnicamente i migliori!
<b>The Who</b>

7

The Who

Who's Next. I loro sono album fantastici e sempre diversi tra loro.
<b>Jethro Tull</b>

8

Jethro Tull

Thick As A Brick. Il flauto è rock!
<b>The Beatles</b>

9

The Beatles

Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. Innovatori e maestri per i gruppi che si sono formati dopo di loro.
<b>Black Sabbath</b>

10

Black Sabbath

Paranoid. E che dire dei Black Sabbath...Inventori di due generi in un album e ho detto tutto...
<b>Eric Clapton</b>

11

Eric Clapton

Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs. Una leggenda.
<b>The Allman Brothers Band</b>

12

The Allman Brothers Band

At Fillmore East. Il southern rock...
<b>Queen</b>

13

Queen

A Night At The Opera. Precisi e tecnicamente fantastici.
<b>Uriah Heep</b>

14

Uriah Heep

Salisbury. Miti dell'hard rock. Peccato se un pò sfortunati con la critica...
<b>Genesis</b>

15

Genesis

Selling England By The Pound. Angelici e molto melodici...
<b>Emerson, Lake & Palmer</b>

16

Emerson, Lake & Palmer

Tarkus. Pomposi e tecnicamente geniali!
<b>The Doors</b>

17

The Doors

The Doors. Il rock classico fatto a gruppo.
<b>Van der Graaf Generator</b>

18

Van der Graaf Generator

H to He. In termini di discografia: non hanno sbagliato niente!
<b>Lynyrd Skynyrd</b>

19

Lynyrd Skynyrd

(pronounced "leh-nerd skin-herd"). La tecnica non ha confini...Peccato che sono durati poco...
<b>King Crimson</b>

20

King Crimson

In The Court Of Crimson King. Hanno inventato il rock progressivo con l'album citato...STORIA!
<b>The Velvet Underground</b>

21

The Velvet Underground

The Velvet Underground & Nico. La bellezza dei loro album è incredibile!
<b>Cream</b>

22

Cream

Disraeli Gears. "Sunshine Of Your Love" è l'ispirazione di tutte le canzoni che invento...
<b>Rainbow</b>

23

Rainbow

Rising. La classe non è acqua!
<b>Gentle Giant</b>

24

Gentle Giant

Octopus. Il progressive allo stato puro!
<b>Soft Machine</b>

25

Soft Machine

Third. Dei geni senza limiti...
<b>Area</b>

26

Area

Arbeit Macht Frei. Coloro che ci hanno fatto arrivare ai livelli del rock inglese...
<b>Yes</b>

27

Yes

Close To The Edge. Celestiali e tecnicamente bravi!
<b>Focus</b>

28

Focus

Focus 3. Troppo sottovalutati!
<b>Iron Butterfly</b>

29

Iron Butterfly

In A Gadda Da Vida. Inventori dell'hard rock con l'album citato...
<b>The Alan Parsons Project</b>

30

The Alan Parsons Project

The Turn Friendly a Card. Geniali!
<b>The Rolling Stones</b>

31

The Rolling Stones

Aftermath. Troppo sopravvalutati ma comunque massimo rispetto!...
<b>The Yardbirds</b>

32

The Yardbirds

Roger the Engineer. Hard al punto giusto...hanno avuto la possibilità di ospitare nella band dei nomi celebri!
<b>Free</b>

33

Free

Fire & Water. Molto bravi tecnicamente e abbastanza melodici.
<b>Creedence Clearwater Revival</b>

34

Creedence Clearwater Revival

Willy and the Poor Boys. Leggenda...
<b>Procol Harum</b>

35

Procol Harum

A Salty Dog. Geniali in tutti i loro brani!
<b>Mahavishnu Orchestra</b>

36

Mahavishnu Orchestra

Birds Of Fire. Tecnicamente facevano paura a chiunque...peccato del fatto che non hanno mai avuto grande successo...
<b>Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band</b>

37

Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band

Trout Mask Replica. La sperimentazione fatta a persona (Vliet).
<b>Dire Straits</b>

38

Dire Straits

Making Movies. Un pò commercialotti ma pur sempre bravi!
<b>Black Widow</b>

39

Black Widow

Sacrifice. Diabolicamente diabolici...
<b>Bob Dylan</b>

40

Bob Dylan

Freewhelin' Bob Dylan. Artista eccezionale, anche se a me non piace (tranne alcune eccezioni)...
<b>Fleetwood Mac</b>

41

Fleetwood Mac

Fleetwood Mac. Un pò sottovalutati, ma fantastici!
<b>Jeff Beck</b>

42

Jeff Beck

Blow By Blow. Il Rock-Blues.
<b>Janis Joplin</b>

43

Janis Joplin

Cheap Thrills (Big Brother and the Holding Company album). La più famosa rappresentante rock donna!
<b>Neil Young</b>

44

Neil Young

Harvest. Probabilmente il chitarrista country-folk migliore...
<b>Hawkwind</b>

45

Hawkwind

Warrior On The Edge Of Time. Spaziali!
<b>Traffic</b>

46

Traffic

John Barleycorn Must Die. Molto bravi e melodici.
<b>Jefferson Airplane</b>

47

Jefferson Airplane

Surrealistic Pillow. Quant'è bona Grace Slick!
<b>Rush</b>

49

Rush

2112. La fusione dell'hard rock col progressive...
<b>Eagles</b>

50

Eagles

Hotel California. Il country rock...
<b>UFO</b>

51

UFO

Phenomenon. L'hard rock più melodico!
<b>Blue Öyster Cult</b>

52

Blue Öyster Cult

Secret Teatries. Ci sanno fare...
<b>The Moody Blues</b>

53

The Moody Blues

Days of Future Passed. Il nome "Blues" che viene dopo "Moody", non ha nessun significato sul genere di questo gruppo
<b>AC/DC</b>

54

AC/DC

Highway To Hell. L'altra faccia dell'hard rock.
<b>Jeff Buckley</b>

55

Jeff Buckley

Grace. E pensare che prima non mi piaceva!
<b>Banco del Mutuo Soccorso</b>

56

Banco del Mutuo Soccorso

Darwin! Probabilmente, insieme agli Area, il miglior gruppo rock italiano di sempre...
<b>ZZ Top</b>

57

ZZ Top

Eliminator. Originali, grezzi nel loro hard rock e...BARBONI!
<b>KISS</b>

58

KISS

Destroyer. L'hard glam rock...
<b>The Beach Boys</b>

59

The Beach Boys

Pet Sounds. Importanti nello sviluppo del pop rock...
<b>Journey</b>

60

Journey

Evolution. L'AOR...
<b>The Animals</b>

61

The Animals

The Animals. "House Of The Rising Sun" è una delle mie ispirazioni quando invento delle canzoni!
<b>Premiata Forneria Marconi</b>

62

Premiata Forneria Marconi

Storia Di Un Minuto. Il rock progressivo italiano...
<b>Ramones</b>

63

Ramones

Ramones. Gli inventori del punk rock.
<b>Aerosmith</b>

64

Aerosmith

Aerosmith. Molto Mtv ma melodici anche loro...
<b>U2</b>

65

U2

War. Melodici ma niente di più...
<b>David Bowie</b>

66

David Bowie

"Heroes". Mi annoia un pò, ma ha la sua importanza...
<b>The Stooges</b>

67

The Stooges

Fun House. Confrontando il sound degli album per l'anno in cui furono stati pubblicati, TROPPO AVANTI!
<b>Sex Pistols</b>

68

Sex Pistols

Never Mind The Bollocks, Here's The Sex Pistols. Non mi piacciono affatto, ma sono pur sempre importanti...
<b>Nirvana</b>

69

Nirvana

Nevermind. Non mi piacciono affatto, ma sono stati fondamentali per il grunge.
<b>Comus</b>

70

Comus

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Comments on this chart
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    30 sep 10
    express your judgment!
     
  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    30 sep 10
    Someone your age who is already approaching these artists is truly commendable, I admire you, buddy! :)
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    30 sep 10
    thank you stonecoldcrazy, anyway what do you think about the ranking?
     
  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    30 sep 10
    The ranking is definitely well done; perhaps it's missing a few surprises.
     
  • madcat
    madcat
    30 sep 10
    mm Nirvana and Velvet Underground too low and Hendrix after Santana (?!) damn and Beatles after Iron Maiden (?!)
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    1 oct 10
    Maybe you're right about the Velvet, but I placed the Nirvana there because, in my opinion, they don't match the levels of the previous ones. Then I put Santana before Hendrix because, as music goes, Carlos is a constant innovator, whereas Hendrix wasn't. As for the Beatles, maybe you're right... although I believe Iron Maiden have been the greatest heavy metal band, and that counts for a lot...
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    1 oct 10
    Sorry for the mistake: "and this is worth a lot," I meant to write "and this is worth a lot."
     
  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    1 oct 10
    Well, I like the ranking, also because it's not very far from mine! As for the positions, I'll just say that Nirvana should be last!
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    2 oct 10
    Well done stonecoldcrazy!!! Indeed, I made a mistake here.
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    2 oct 10
    in fact
     
  • hocus-pocus
    hocus-pocus
    2 oct 10
    The Who are THE TRUE ROCK
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    2 oct 10
    "like music, Carlos is a continuous innovator, whereas Hendrix was not."... MMMMMMH boy, you don’t know what you’re talking about!
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    2 oct 10
    I admit that Hendrix was technically better than Santana, but the emotions that Santana conveys to me are unmatched by anyone else, and Santana has often managed to change his musical style while always enjoying great success.
     
  • berlinboy85
    berlinboy85
    3 oct 10
    Perhaps it has always been very successful because it has been marketed. Your quote from Teenage about Jimi is pure heresy.
     
  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    3 oct 10
    look at you, I have to quote berlin-boy! :D
     
  • Alfredo
    Alfredo
    3 oct 10
    "because, like music, Carlos is a continuous innovator, while Hendrix was not" --> yeah, you know how it is, when you die at 27 after 5 years of actual career, it's a bit hard to stay in history for the "continuous" innovations.
     
  • holdsworth
    holdsworth
    3 oct 10
    also because Santana is the only thing that has done is to commercialize the lysergic-psychedelic-experimental sound of California in the late sixties!
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    3 oct 10
    Alfredo, that's why I said this: if Hendrix had had the opportunity of Santana, meaning forty years of career, he would have accomplished more than Santana. In fact, Hendrix did more than enough in five years of career. However, in my opinion, it was appropriate to place Santana before Hendrix...
     
  • geenoo
    geenoo
    8 oct 10
    No, Zappa 1 no.
     
  • geenoo
    geenoo
    8 oct 10
    Also Santana 2 no.
     
  • iside
    iside
    8 oct 10
    santana in front of Jimi cannot be seen
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    14 oct 10
    Santana stands in front of Hendrix as an artist, but not as a guitarist. In my opinion, you should place the Beach Boys with Pet Sounds at least at number 10. But it's still subjective. :)
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    14 oct 10
    Zappa is fine.
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    15 oct 10
    Well done, Felo!!! You understood my intentions perfectly!!! As a guitarist, Hendrix is better than Santana, but as an artist...
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    16 oct 10
    As an artist, it’s enough to say that he has changed the standards of modern music. One thing, the Velvet Underground is too low.
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    24 oct 10
    Sex Pistols??? You've lost all my respect!
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    24 oct 10
    hahaha!!! don't worry! it’s just the 40s!
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    24 oct 10
    I would have included a few more capable punk bands like Johnny Thunders and The Heartbreakers or The Stooges, even the Ramones.
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    25 oct 10
    Fleetwood Mac after the Pistols?????
     
  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    25 oct 10
    I hope that Uriah Heep let loose some noise to chase away the Pistols and the Ramones. ;D
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    25 oct 10
    Too low Van Der Graaf Generator, Velvet Underground, and Area.

    THE PFM ABOVE THE AREA!?!?!?!?!?!?!SHIFTONE!???!

    Giv e a laxative to the Uraia ip.
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    25 oct 10
    GOD BLIND ME, ROLLING STONES UNDER THE BEATLES, AREA UNDER THE MAIDEN!
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    25 oct 10
    Tastes are tastes, the ranking is very good, just two things: I would have placed Genesis at least in the top 5, but they're in the top 10 and that's fine too :), however, Van der Graaf are really too low, come on; Zappa at number one is perfect, you’re a genius.
     
  • ProgRock
    ProgRock
    25 oct 10
    Help a woman under Malgioglio!
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    25 oct 10
    Thanks guys for the advice, you know... when there are 50 artists, it's hard to keep them all in line xD
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    25 oct 10
    *ADVICE
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    25 oct 10
    You have no idea how hard it was to make 100 excluding the groups!
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    26 oct 10
    WELL, I CAN IMAGINE!
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    31 oct 10
    Dear Rock70, there's no need for these antics; mine is better ù.ù :P
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    1 nov 10
    So it means you'll give me some advice :-)
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    1 nov 10
    I'm just kidding! ;)
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    1 nov 10
    I know! I didn't take it personally at all!
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    15 nov 10
    I Getro Tall above the Chin Crimzon?
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    15 nov 10
    Velvet Andergraund 22nd? The Igols over the Gentl Giaiants? U2? PFM over Flitud Mek? Quin seventh before the Giaiants, the Mek, the KC, the Velvet, the Stons, the Area, the Iarb'rds, the Maviscnu Orkistra, the Uraia, the Airon Batterflai, the Alman Braders and even the Bitols (whom I hate, but still better than the Quin). In short, this is completely off.
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    15 nov 10
    I'm sorry to have disappointed you... tastes are tastes! By the way: when it comes to the Rolling Stones, I was very objective; in fact, I think they should be ranked further back!
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    15 nov 10
    Really?
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    17 nov 10
    well...yes!
     
  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    17 nov 10
    but what Stones... they're actually too high up instead!
     
  • Alfredo
    Alfredo
    17 nov 10
    Are the Stones too high up?? You really deserve the Queen!
     
  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    17 nov 10
    I don't understand the connection, however you Debaser fans are greatly overestimating the Rolling Stones!
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    17 nov 10
    In my opinion, it's the programmers who snob them for no reason.
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    17 nov 10
    If rock has made progress, we owe it to them; I don't care if it goes against my beliefs. They might be toxic and all, but they've created undeniable masterpieces.
     
  • Alfredo
    Alfredo
    17 nov 10
    The quartet Beggars-LetItBleed-StickyFingers-Ex ile doesn't need any overestimations; just listen. I wanted to ask Rock70: does the 70 in your nickname refer to your birth year?
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    17 nov 10
    I'll answer for you, no, he is my peer.
     
  • Alfredo
    Alfredo
    17 nov 10
    Oh really, I was getting worried :D
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    17 nov 10
    Felo, I’m a bit of a prog fan, but that doesn’t mean I feel the need to snub the Stones. True, I also think they’re overrated—though never as much as the 4 from Liverpool—but they remain a fundamental group in the history of rock. Sticky Fingers has never thrilled me, but Beggars Banquet, Let It Bleed (my favorite), and Exile are indeed and indisputably great albums. They are a bit overrated (it’s been 35 years since they made a decent record—always in my opinion), but we shouldn’t snub them too much either. I’m with Felo and Alfredo, essential Rolling Stones. "Let me please introduce myself."
     
  • Alfredo
    Alfredo
    17 nov 10
    Indeed, the last good album is Tattoo You, which is 29 years old; that said, they have still produced some great rock'n'roll albums.
     
  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    17 nov 10
    The quartet Beggars-LetItBleed-StickyFingers-Ex ile really doesn’t need overrated praise >>>> pffffff, these are 4 albums I listened to to the point of boredom some time ago, and aside from Sticky Fingers, which, by the way, pales in comparison to even earlier albums like LedZeppelin, they are just decent albums with no more than 2-3 classics each; we’re not talking about Velvet Underground & Nico here... oh well, you settle for little!
     
  • ProgRock
    ProgRock
    17 nov 10
    The Rolling Stones are undoubtedly essential, but they always excite me very little.
     
  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    17 nov 10
    I also add "it's only rock'n'roll" to the essentials...
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    17 nov 10
    For me, Tattoo You is quite mediocre as an album; I can only go as far back as the previous one. Before, it's undeniable that they made great records. However, Stone doesn’t hold up; when compared to the Led and the V.U, even the best of the Stones fades away—there’s no comparison. Still, those three albums are more than just "decent," come on, we’re talking about essential records. However, I completely agree with you: the debuts of Zeppelin and the Velvet dissolve every single note of the Stones.
     
  • Alfredo
    Alfredo
    17 nov 10
    No, those who only listen to music produced 40 years ago settle for little.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    17 nov 10
    Here, real faithful, that is the last album of theirs that I fully appreciate, then darkness, or almost.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    17 nov 10
    Alfredo is right, one shouldn't become rigid, but it's also true that in the '80s and '90s there certainly wasn't the same quantity/quality ratio as there was in the '60s and '70s.
     
  • Alfredo
    Alfredo
    17 nov 10
    In my opinion, yes, there have been big groups even in the last 30 years, who overshadow bands like Kiss. Of course, not r'n'r or prog, but still. And anyway, I don't see, for example, Love in this ranking. If Rock70 is not familiar with them, I recommend "Forever Changes." An album and a band unjustly never mentioned in rankings like these.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    17 nov 10
    Surely there have been great bands in the last 30 years, just not as many as in the '60s and '70s. Kiss, however, is a mediocre band, except for 2-3 great albums like Destroyer.
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    17 nov 10
    we alfredo I’m 13 years old and thanks for the advice about love... I know them but I’ve never had the chance to listen to them... anyway, I’m not questioning the talent or effectiveness of the Rolling Stones or their albums... it’s just that they’ve never transmitted anything to me, they bore me! I only like a little bit of their stuff and that’s it!
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    17 nov 10
    Here Forever Changes is essential.
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    17 nov 10
    I've never really been interested in Kiss either, and apart from Destroyer and a few other songs, I'm not a big fan!
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    17 nov 10
    I feel the same way about Kiss as you do, Rock.
     
  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    18 nov 10
    In short, rock70, I confirm the verdict: you understand much more than certain people older than you! :)
    @hihhjij I completely agree with you always! ;)
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    18 nov 10
    But at least put the Ramones above the Sex Pistols! :D
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    18 nov 10
    In my opinion, the Ramones are a bit monotonous, but I acknowledge their skill... They come after the Sex Pistols because the latter were the founders of the Ramones' music... a music that I don't really like (except for a few songs...)... Furthermore, I don't like the fact that the Ramones always made very short songs, being a fan of prog like Echoes, Thick as a Brick, Supper's Ready...
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    18 nov 10
    I'm happy to listen to them!
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    18 nov 10
    Rock70, please don’t talk nonsense like that. The Ramones founded the music of the Pistols, if anything. I forgive you because you’re young ;) "also, I don’t like the fact that the Ramones always made super short songs" and thank you, it’s called Punk... :D
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    18 nov 10
    Alright, at this point let's trash everything except for the prog. Here, I’ll take it from Wikipedia: "Steve Jones, a member of the Sex Pistols, stated during an interview for the documentary film Too Tough to Die: a Tribute to Johnny Ramone that Sid was a big fan of the Ramones: in fact, during soundchecks with his bass he would play Blitzkrieg Bop." The Sex Pistols were inspired by the Ramones and Johnny Thunders' Heartbreakers (let alone those of Tom Petty :D)
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    18 nov 10
    Oh okay... I always knew that the Sex Pistols were the founders of punk... well, I've learned something new! Thanks!
     
  • Alfredo
    Alfredo
    18 nov 10
    "Alright, at this point let's disregard everything except the prog," I absolutely agree. Then discussions like "founders of punk" don't make much sense, or rather they make sense for an iconographic discourse, because musically (e.g. Ramones) it was a kind of distorted and raw r'n'r/garage rock. Ultimately, the first punk bands (e.g. Pistols) didn't invent much, but they gave a fundamental push to the music of the era.
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    18 nov 10
    You’re right Alfre, it’s a discussion that makes no sense and cm.
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    18 nov 10
    Anyway, you can't say "this or that was the first." It was just to say that, if we really have to, the Ramones can be considered the pioneers, definitely not the Pistols. I think Rock got it ;)
     
  • Alfredo
    Alfredo
    18 nov 10
    "they haven't invented much" --> I compliment myself! we are a super strong team!!! :D
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    18 nov 10
    Well, anyway, the Sex Pistols are 52nd and the Ramones are 53rd... xD
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    26 nov 10
    anyway, the Ramones are 53rd and the Pistols are 54th xD
     
  • TheMally98
    TheMally98
    29 nov 10
    Do you mind if I take inspiration from your way of writing Rankings?
    (Bands with Albums you prefer... [and that justify this position in the ranking])
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    29 nov 10
    I don't mind at all! Go ahead!
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    1 dec 10
    Damn, Nirvana disgusts you and the Sex Pistols don't?
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    1 dec 10
    Seeing all the prog stuff about Beach Boys, Neil Young, David Bowie, Ramones, BOC, and Dylan isn't exactly the best. Still, I believe it respects your personal opinions.
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    1 dec 10
    The Sex Pistols disgust me (aside from something)!... but the Nirvana more (aside from something)!
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    1 dec 10
    but where are you from, felo?
     
  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    1 dec 10
    Rock70, if a band sucks, you should at least pave them over in the rankings... the purpose of a ranking is to express a personal opinion, you don't have to cater to other people's tastes...
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    1 dec 10
    But I included Nirvana or the Sex Pistols because they are somewhat objective and because they were fundamental in rock, but apart from "Anarchy in the UK," "God Save the Queen," "Smells Like Teen Spirit," and "In Bloom," I wouldn't have included these bands...
     
  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    1 dec 10
    Well, 2 songs each seem a bit few to end up in a ranking of the best! :D
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    1 dec 10
    but I included them because they were fundamental to rock...
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    1 dec 10
    Oh! You know what I'm gonna say? I'm getting rid of these two groups, damn it!
     
  • Alfredo
    Alfredo
    1 dec 10
    Here we go, seeing Nirvana alongside Kiss and Eagles didn’t seem nice! :DD
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    1 dec 10
    Bravo to the devil the overrated guns and Nirvana.
    Felo, honestly I also find that most prog bands are superior to people like Dylan and Young.
     
  • Alfredo
    Alfredo
    1 dec 10
    Superior to Young... most even. :(
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    1 dec 10
    "Honestly, I also find that most prog bands are superior to people like Dylan and Young." COME ON, GIVE ME A BREAK, PLEASE! :)
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    1 dec 10
    Bob and Neil are not exactly among my favorites. To me, people like King Crimson are far superior, and the beauty of some of their albums (like Highway 61 by Dylan, for example) is undeniable, for sure.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    1 dec 10
    And then, Felo, to say that a Ramones agreement sweeps away the discographies of many prog bands is nonsense :)
    Teenage: you don't count when it comes to prog, we understand you don't like it :) Anyway, I like Young and Dylan, I just find them overall inferior to many prog bands (but 50,000 times superior to the Ramones) it’s a matter of taste.
     
  • ProgRock
    ProgRock
    1 dec 10
    As much as I may like and as important as Dylan and Young may be, there is a certain distance between them and artists like Hammill or Wyatt; it doesn't matter how influential or important an artist is, but rather how much they move you.
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    1 dec 10
    hjhhjij the sentence about the Ramones is a provocation :D Neil Young eats the King Crimson.
     
  • Alfredo
    Alfredo
    1 dec 10
    Since when does Hammill objectively move more than Young? You have to explain this to me, ProgRock.
     
  • ProgRock
    ProgRock
    1 dec 10
    I was speaking "subjectively," of course, do I have to repeat the "in my opinion" every time, huh? ;)
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    1 dec 10
    You can't compare Hammill and Young; Young is definitely better, no matter how snobbish, symphonic, or progressive you may be.
     
  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    1 dec 10
    I support ProgRock, I like both Hammill and Young, but the former has a definitely more exciting, visceral, theatrical singing style in my opinion. Not to mention more versatile than Neil.
     
  • Alfredo
    Alfredo
    1 dec 10
    So I misunderstood the sentence; I had perceived that Hammill was superior to Young because he was more emotional.
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    1 dec 10
    Joey Ramone's voice is more emotional than those of Anderson (Jon, of course), Lake, Hammill, and Wyatt combined. Take that :P
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    1 dec 10
    Indeed, you can't listen to Young as better than Hammil. Of course, everything is subjective, because we're always talking about giants, but in my opinion, Hammil is far superior to Young, and, in my view, the idea that Young outshines King Crimson is a good joke. I completely agree with Fedezan and Progrock. So, Felo, you can't say that Young is definitely better than Hammil; that's how it is for you (as it is for others, undoubtedly), but it's a subjective fact, not an objective one (objectively, they are both monsters in their genres). After all, there are plenty of people willing to argue the opposite of what you believe.
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    1 dec 10
    *Wyatt
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    1 dec 10
    teenage: haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargggggggggggggg hhhhhhh, damn it!
    XD,XD.
     
  • Alfredo
    Alfredo
    1 dec 10
    Well, in my opinion, Neil is THE rock.
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    1 dec 10
    hjhhjij: You know I'm provoking on King Crimson! You know I love both (but of course I prefer Neil over Hammill). @Rock: But then, can we compare the acid voice and Ronson's guitars on the Bowie brand to the Eagles, the mesmerizing twists of Blue Oyster Cult with the fickle Yes? Lynyrd were technically not that great, but as you wrote, the same goes for Deep Purple (????????). Maybe Velvet Underground a bit underrated. Beatles inventors of Pop Rock? No, then did you need the lesson on the Beach Boys? :D (they came even before) Then there would be Love, The Mamas, etc... Anyway, for the rest, a ranking that I hope reflects your tastes.
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    1 dec 10
    Joey Ramone's voice pushed me towards homosexuality: Q so arousing!
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    1 dec 10
    Big as a provocation XD, anyway I got it; if you prefer Neil over Peter, no one can argue with you, as it's just a matter of personal taste. For the rest, as often happens, I agree with everything you've written, including the inconsistency of the yeses.
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    1 dec 10
    (One thing I've never understood, is it pronounced Uiatt or Uaiatt?? Who knows.)
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    1 dec 10
    I agree with everything you've written except the last sentence, XD XD XD. Ramone is already looking for you XD (of course, it's his ghost that's looking for you, but he’s still pretty horny).
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    1 dec 10
    If you preferred the Eagles to Bowie, you were just trash :D
     
  • ProgRock
    ProgRock
    1 dec 10
    Comparing Young to Hammill is quite ridiculous; mine was also a pseudo-provocation :P. Although subjectively I slightly prefer the latter, they are among the greatest composers of the same genre. With these figures, unnecessary discussions often arise, Prog vs Punk; probably Rotten preferred Hammill :D.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    1 dec 10
    I never really understood it either, to be honest.
    Alfredo, if for you, Young is rock, I absolutely respect your tastes.
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    1 dec 10
    The stench of Rotten's breath disintegrates Fripp's guitar :P
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    1 dec 10
    The day I prefer the little eagles to Bowie, please kill me XD. Real progrock, they have been (and still are) two immense musicians (much more Hammil for me, but Neil doesn't joke around either).
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    1 dec 10
    Felo: so true, so true XD XD XD
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    1 dec 10
    ProgRock: is it pronounced Uiatt or Uaiatt?
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    1 dec 10
    An insurmountable dilemma...
     
  • Alfredo
    Alfredo
    1 dec 10
    The Eagles make me sad even though they aren't a depressive metal band. :D
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    1 dec 10
    And why do we want to talk about Kiss? :D
     
  • ProgRock
    ProgRock
    1 dec 10
    I have always known Uaiatt.
     
  • Alfredo
    Alfredo
    1 dec 10
    I would try on Yahoo Answers :))
     
  • Alfredo
    Alfredo
    1 dec 10
    Kiss is pronounced "chis" :DDD
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    1 dec 10
    And maybe we've solved Bob's dilemma XD
    The Eagles and Kiss have also made a couple of nice albums each, but they absolutely cannot be counted among the greatest bands of all time, in my opinion.
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    1 dec 10
    Naaaa, Answers was invented by kids to do Latin translations, they don’t deal with such subtleties.
     
  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    1 dec 10
    @felo: try hitting yourself on the thumb with a hammer and you'll know how it sounds. ;D
     
  • Alfredo
    Alfredo
    1 dec 10
    I tried Fede! Now I know how to pronounce it: "DIOCANEEEEEEE" :))
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    1 dec 10
    This system is brilliant XD, go for it Felo Xd (anyway, I think it's uaiatt too) Eagles is definitely igols, right Alfre?
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    1 dec 10
    Okay, Wyatt officially pronounces it DIOCANEEEEEE XD XD XD XD.
     
  • ProgRock
    ProgRock
    1 dec 10
    But is it called Drim Titer, Drim Fiatà, or Dream Teater? I’ve been told to hit myself in the balls to find out, but I don't want to do that...
     
  • Alfredo
    Alfredo
    1 dec 10
    @Prog: in that case, the group's name doesn't come up, but the rosaries start right away. :))
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    1 dec 10
    to give you a metaphorical hammering in the balls, just listen to the latest album by Portnoy and co. Terrible.
     
  • ProgRock
    ProgRock
    1 dec 10
    Alas, already done, just that metaphorical one though.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    1 dec 10
    Condolences...
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    1 dec 10
    What do you think about Rock Bottom by Robert DIOCANE?
     
  • ProgRock
    ProgRock
    1 dec 10
    Less painful than Systematic, however, it is.
     
  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    1 dec 10
    I didn't think you were all so devout... ;D So maybe it's better if you put the hammer up your A.. ! ;D
     
  • ProgRock
    ProgRock
    1 dec 10
    Rock Bottom the pinnacle of Wyatt as a solo artist, the most tortured and inspired.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    1 dec 10
    Great prog, I also consider it the most beautiful of DIOCANE's solo work.
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    1 dec 10
    Great! You made me piss my pants from laughing! Anyway, in my opinion, the Eagles are a legend: the album Hotel California is frame-worthy... David Bowie has never driven me crazy (aside from the usual "something") and I've never liked his genre. Also, I prefer Yes (being a progaionomaniac) to BOC; I like them, but not that much... (responding to everything I've read) in my opinion, Peter Hammill is far superior to Neil Young, and I don't really like Kiss (aside from Destroyer and a few songs)... @felo are you really gay?
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    1 dec 10
    rock bottom is the best by DIOCANE! xD
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    1 dec 10
    I agree on Hammil, Rock, but not on the Eagles ;)
    Anyway, Felo isn’t gay, it’s just that Ramone made him have some doubts XD, he’s undecided. XD XD XD
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    1 dec 10
    DIOCANE was an insane drummer!
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    1 dec 10
    You are discussing useless stuff; Wyatt's best solo album is Rock Bottom, and there's no point in beating around the bush. No, I'm not gay, but I have nothing against gay people.
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    1 dec 10
    Do you really prefer Gentle Giant over works like Acquiring or Octopus? Well, to each their own.
     
  • ProgRock
    ProgRock
    1 dec 10
    I can't stand the completely pointless closing track of the first Gentle Giant album; the rest contains gems like "Funny Ways" and "Isn't Quiet and Cold." Overall, it doesn't hold up compared to the next three albums.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    1 dec 10
    I also prefer Acquiring and Octopus, but Gentle Giant is also a masterpiece in my opinion.
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    2 dec 10
    In my opinion, Gentle Giant is not a masterpiece at all. The real masterpiece is Acquiring The Tast. IMHO.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    2 dec 10
    Acquiring the taste is inhuman, undeniably superior to the eponymous debut, which doesn't mean the first one isn't a masterpiece.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    13 dec 10
    Rock, can I say one thing? I more or less like the ranking, but I don't really agree with that "technically the best" associated with Deep Purple. They're great, technically very skilled, but the best? (unless you mean only in hard rock).
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    14 dec 10
    technically they're certainly not the best! it's to make it clear that they were technically good! like for example Napoli: when Napoli wins and finishes third, it’s definitely not the strongest (there are JUVE and Milan), but people say "Napoli is the strongest" to make it clear to everyone that Napoli is strong!
     
  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    14 dec 10
    Good job rock70, Napoli is the strongest, FORZA NAPOLI! ;D
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    14 dec 10
    Okay, clear ;) Napoli is definitely dangerous this year and Juventus also seems on point. Only Roma is stumbling as usual, sigh. Well, go Barca.
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    14 dec 10
    Barça is perhaps the only certainty in football over the last few years!
     
  • ProgRock
    ProgRock
    14 dec 10
    Without a doubt, the only certainty is that none of their players deserved the Ballon d'Or this year.
     
  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    14 dec 10
    The Ballon d'Or has always been a joke; there are people who have terrible seasons, then play 5 good matches in the World Cup and end up with a Ballon d'Or in their trophy cabinet. Am I perhaps referring to Luis Nazário De Lima Ronaldo??? Maybe... :D
     
  • ProgRock
    ProgRock
    14 dec 10
    Exactly, Ronaldo hadn't done anything special that year, then he scores a tap-in against Kahn and it's Ballon d'Or :D
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    14 dec 10
    Del Piero has always deserved the Ballon d'Or and has never received it!
     
  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    14 dec 10
    The truth is that there must be unequivocal criteria: 1) either the strongest player (flaws: debatable; the same few would win +/- all the time); 2) or who wins the most (a criterion that no one can contest). Meanwhile, the Ballon d'Or has often been awarded for "political" reasons. This year, UEFA only rewarded Inter? And then FIFA awards champagne football to Barca / Spain. But let’s give the Ballon d'Or to Fuentes; he truly deserves it!
     
  • madcat
    madcat
    15 dec 10
    What unsettles me is how we ended up talking about football (which I personally hate) in a review on the best rock artist...
     
  • madcat
    madcat
    15 dec 10
    in a ranking, pardon
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    15 dec 10
    a long story: it all started with hjhhjij...
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    16 dec 10
    No, it started with you and that old queenie Stonecold, what are you doing, accusing me unfairly? XD
     
  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    16 dec 10
    The culprit, in reality, is rock70! :D >>>>> "technically they are certainly not the best! it's to make clear that they were technically good! like for example Napoli: when Napoli wins and comes third, it is definitely not the strongest (there are JUVE and Milan), but it is said 'Napoli is the strongest' to make people understand that Napoli is strong!"
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    16 dec 10
    The initiator of it all, ugly treacherous accuser of the innocent XD
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    16 dec 10
    But you asked why I said "technically the strongest are Deep Purple"!!! xD
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    19 dec 10
    Rock, very melodic Genesis yes, but with a remarkable hard-rock edge ;) (Return of the giant hogweed, Musical box, Dancing with the moonlit knight). But you really don't like Trick of the Tail and Wind and Wuthering?
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    19 dec 10
    Yes, apart from these songs and "the knife," they are very melodic... they also say that Santana was very soft, pure Latino, but let's not forget that Santana's debut album is one of the first albums with hard rock tendencies, and there are some Santana songs that are slightly heavy metal (especially thanks to the organist Gregg Rolie) like "HOPE YOU'RE FEELING BETTER," "MOTHER'S DAUGHTER," "OPEN INVITATION," "AMERICA," "TABOO"...
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    19 dec 10
    Moreover, among the two albums you mentioned, I really like A Trick of Tail, but not as much as the previous ones, and Wind and Wuthering even less than A Trick of Tail.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    19 dec 10
    And you thought you wouldn't bring up Santana XD. There are plenty of hard songs in The Lamb (Back in N.Y.C and The Waiting Room) and Trick of the Tail (Dance on a Volcano), but you're right, melodic breaks like those in the instrumental of "Cinema Show" are unforgettable :). Who knows, maybe you will reevaluate Wind over time, as I did. Trick and Wind are, after all, their most mature albums, and the first brings completely new fusion atmospheres to their music (thanks to Collins).
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    19 dec 10
    Anyway, I’m savoring Third now, oh my! The moment of the moon in June.
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    19 dec 10
    Yes, there are songs... anyway, aside from the fact that I like the albums with Gabriel, I'm also more connected to them because they feature the flute, and I'm a flutist, so I feel even more tied to them.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    19 dec 10
    That's why you like Tull so much ;). Anyway, Gabriel wasn’t exactly a great flautist, but his flute could create beautiful melodies to set the stage for Banks and Hackett's super solos.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    19 dec 10
    I'm getting emotional over Moon in June :(
    Anyway, I also play the flute (both sweet and transverse) ;)
     
  • madcat
    madcat
    19 dec 10
    hehe ok got it, from deep purple to Napoli in 2 comments :-D
     
  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    20 dec 10
    So you are two pipers??? ;D Wait until you come up with more strange ideas... ;D
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    20 dec 10
    no! no strange ideas... xD @hjhhjij: I didn't know you played the flute like me and the recorder like me, I also play the guitar and through a friend of mine who's a clarinetist, I can play on the clarinet (all thanks to me, he only showed me a few notes, he hates rock and doesn't know the King Crimson) the clarinet solo (exactly) from "epitaph" by Ian McDonald.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    27 dec 10
    Well, congratulations, I'm a bit out of practice with the bagpipes, not having played them seriously for a year, but I've improved on the piano. Anyway, if you can reproduce Mc Donald, nothing to say, really good :)
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    28 dec 10
    Thank you! I can also do bouree, nothing is easy, and a bit of the solo from my god by Tull.
     
  • sexdrums&rckrll
    sexdrums&rckrll
    11 jan 11
    Blue Oyster too low, dear Rock70 ;)
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    16 jan 11
    Neil Young and the Beach Boys really too down. Then the Rolling Stones overrated, bah. The inventors of Rock overrated.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    16 jan 11
    Well, they are a bit overrated ;), but the fact remains that from '66 to '74 they didn't miss a beat (one masterpiece, Let it Bleed, and many excellent albums).
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    16 jan 11
    Rock, with all the love I have for Queen, that technically fantastic doesn’t sound right to me ;)
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    16 jan 11
    Only Let It Bleed? Doesn’t seem like it. Anyway, always better than the Beatles.
     
  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    16 jan 11
    Sticky Fingers is even better. Beggars Banquet and It's only rock'n'roll are equally great.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    16 jan 11
    Felo, albums like Aftermath, Satanic Majesties, Beggars, Sticky, and Exile are all very good, but, for me obviously, not masterpieces. Anyway, between the Stones and the Beatles I side with the Who :)
     
  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    16 jan 11
    Anyway, it makes me smile that youngsters like you always and only talk about vintage music. Unless, of course, you're all fakes, right?
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    16 jan 11
    Yes, you caught me, I'm actually 66 years old XD. Fede, we young people who follow this music are very few, rare exceptions, 90% of our peers barely know the Pink Floyd (mostly just Another Brick in the Wall), and I've gotten tired of this ignorance ;)
     
  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    16 jan 11
    He he, I knew it, even my grandfather doesn’t remember all those bands you listen to! ;D Joking aside, I only partially appreciate this “escape” into the past. In reality, there has been and still is equally beautiful music to discover.
     
  • D.a.n.i
    D.a.n.i
    16 jan 11
    Youngsters! :D
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    16 jan 11
    I'm not some young whippersnapper, I was born on 9/1/1944 in London XD. Fede, I know there's still good music out there, and that before starting to look for it, we need to rediscover all the good stuff that happened between 1960 and 1999.
     
  • D.a.n.i
    D.a.n.i
    16 jan 11
    @hjhhjij you who are young like me, what do you think of the White Stripes? I started to dig them after watching 'It might get loud' a few days ago… so far I've listened to White blood cells (I liked it) and Get behind me Satan (a bit less, I need to listen again)… what do you think?
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    16 jan 11
    The White Stripes? They're not bad, a decent rock band, superior to many pop-rock groups today, they don't blow me away, White Blood Cells is a good album, and then I know Elephant (the one with the now unbearable Seven Nation Army).
     
  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    16 jan 11
    Poo-poppoppo-po-poo-po!
     
  • D.a.n.i
    D.a.n.i
    16 jan 11
    Got it... on 'It Might Get Loud' Jack White really struck me, he’s quite a character... now little by little I’m downloading (oops... buying!) his discography... Seven Nation Army has been played to death, but I think it’s a good song... the film I’m talking about, have you seen it (It Might Get Loud)?
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    16 jan 11
    No, I haven't seen it, but you made me want to. I need to watch 2-3 movies now, then I'll take a look at that one.
    Fede...stop it XD
     
  • D.a.n.i
    D.a.n.i
    16 jan 11
    @hjhjjhj I recommend it to you (it lasts about an hour and a half), especially if you’re a guitarist... oh and let me know if you liked it, okay? ;)
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    16 jan 11
    I'll let you know, even if it won't be an immediate vision; first, I need to re-watch Serpico, The Godfather Part II, and Nell (with Foster and Neeson), it's been too long since I last saw them. Then I'll buy It Might and let you know :)
     
  • D.a.n.i
    D.a.n.i
    16 jan 11
    Okay... maybe watch it on megavideo ;)
     
  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    16 jan 11
    Be careful though, it lasts a while... poppoppo-po-poo-po!
     
  • YRO167
    YRO167
    16 jan 11
    Great ranking, there’s practically almost all the rock from the last forty years, in all its nuances and various extremes. As for Zappa at number one, well, it’s understandable—he’s a genius experimenter—but I would also emphasize listenability, and sometimes, in my personal opinion, Zappa went a bit too far off the rails. I don’t see Neu!, the alien and hallucinatory creation of Kraut Rock! As for the rest, there can be subjective disparities regarding many of your preferences, but that’s not crucial; the best is indeed all here. It makes sense for the Pistols to be included, given that, loved or not, from '77 to '80 rock was literally swept away by the punk wave. But The Stooges with Iggy Pop were playing proto-punk seven years earlier! Notable young Rock70, OB One has taught you well... ;-P
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    17 jan 11
    It Might Get Loud is pretty terrible and I regret buying it. Other than that, the White Stripes are really good, even if they are often snubbed.

    Fedezan: I'm not a fake D:
     
  • D.a.n.i
    D.a.n.i
    17 jan 11
    I don't think It Might Get Loud sucks... there's Jimmy Page playing guitar... that's more than enough ;) I'm increasingly in agreement about the White Stripes...
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    17 jan 11
    Come on Felo, admit it, you were born on 14/4/1945, just like I admitted to being born on 9/1/1944 (yes, I’m the one playing the guitar in the movie ;) XD). Anyway D.a.n.i, now you’ve really piqued my curiosity, I’ll watch the film just to enjoy Page’s participation :)
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    17 jan 11
    FAIL No, I haven't seen it, I was referring to Under Great White Northern Lights xD
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    17 jan 11
    Anyway, Serpico (monumentally played by Pacino) and Nell (incredible Foster) are truly two lovely little films, really beautiful (you know them, right?) Now I'm diving into It Might Get Loud with Jimmy Page :D, we'll see if I like it or if I side with Ritchie "Felo" Blackmore XD
     
  • D.a.n.i
    D.a.n.i
    17 jan 11
    @hjjhjj Bring it on ;) write me your opinion here... (anyway It might is a documentary rather than a film)
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    17 jan 11
    Okay, I'll give you my judgment within a couple of days (what do you think of Serpico and Nell?).
     
  • YRO167
    YRO167
    17 jan 11
    @hjhhjij: curious, why did you jump to "Serpico" and "Nell"? It’s not to say they’re related?!? ;-P On the contrary, it’s to emphasize that "Nell" is an amazing film with an intense, profound, heart-wrenching Foster, reaching for infinity and beyond! A masterpiece of acting by my childhood idol (I've been following her since the late '70s Disney films). Her dialogue in front of the mirror is tear-jerking... nannero in 'ento. Legendary, unique!
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    17 jan 11
    Since you keep flooding my poor inbox because of a (my) very old comment, it seems to me that there’s also a review on Serpico, but I could be wrong... maybe you could discuss it there instead of on this music chart ;-)))
     
  • D.a.n.i
    D.a.n.i
    17 jan 11
    I don't understand a damn thing about cinema! It might be a documentary about the electric guitar, holy Christ :D
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    17 jan 11
    Yes, but I wasn't referring to that, I confused it with Under Great White Northern Lights.
     
  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    17 jan 11
    Are you done clogging up the teenage mail?
     
  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    17 jan 11
    Huh?
     
  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    17 jan 11
    Sure! Please provide the text you would like me to translate.
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    17 jan 11
    That is
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    17 jan 11
    but
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    17 jan 11
    I
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    17 jan 11
    not
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    17 jan 11
    I have
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    17 jan 11
    Thank you guys, it’s a relief that you get me right away ;)
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    17 jan 11
    understood
     
  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    17 jan 11
    You're welcome, teenage! ;)
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    17 jan 11
    XD, let's wrap up the cinematic discussion, YRo is that I just watched them again because it had been a while ;) and yes, Foster is truly amazing in Nell. I never cluttered my teenage inbox, I don’t mix with certain people :D
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    17 jan 11
    Certo! Ma sembra che tu non abbia incluso il testo da tradurre. Per favore, invialo e procederò con la traduzione.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    17 jan 11
    After endlessly talking about cinema, I felt the urge to revise my personal rankings of films.
     
  • D.a.n.i
    D.a.n.i
    17 jan 11
    sorry teenage
     
  • D.a.n.i
    D.a.n.i
    17 jan 11
    I'm really sorry.
     
  • D.a.n.i
    D.a.n.i
    17 jan 11
    I'm sorry..
     
  • D.a.n.i
    D.a.n.i
    17 jan 11
    now I wouldn't want to...
     
  • D.a.n.i
    D.a.n.i
    17 jan 11
    I'm sorry, here it is...
     
  • D.a.n.i
    D.a.n.i
    17 jan 11
    I mean it, you know.
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    17 jan 11
    You're welcome, Dani. Don't mention it.
     
  • D.a.n.i
    D.a.n.i
    17 jan 11
    hahaha :D ok, let's do it ;)
     
  • ProgRock
    ProgRock
    17 jan 11
    25 notifications to talk about low-profile cinema, none mentioning films of the caliber of "Tifosi" from 1999 directed by Neri Parenti featuring a masterful Christian De Sica.
     
  • Alfredo
    Alfredo
    17 jan 11
    And do we want to forget "Alex the Ram"??
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    17 jan 11
    FANS! Wow, what a great movie, you're right Prog, thanks for bringing it back to life! ;D
     
  • korrea
    korrea
    17 jan 11
    Great ranking, although I would lower Santana, Queen, and Sabbath quite a bit.
     
  • korrea
    korrea
    17 jan 11
    I wanted to greet mom.
     
  • korrea
    korrea
    17 jan 11
    the dad
     
  • korrea
    korrea
    17 jan 11
    the aunt
     
  • korrea
    korrea
    17 jan 11
    the uncle
     
  • korrea
    korrea
    17 jan 11
    and my favorite user
     
  • korrea
    korrea
    17 jan 11
    what is teenagelobotomy
     
  • korrea
    korrea
    17 jan 11
    Hi Lobo!
     
  • YRO167
    YRO167
    17 jan 11
    Great Alex the Ram, one of the most hilarious comedy films I've ever seen. I laughed until I cried! Oscar-worthy performance by Albertone Tomba, an actor WAY too underrated...
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    5 feb 11
    Bah, until recently you didn’t like Beefheart, and now all this great love... Anyway, he wasn't just an experimenter; he was above all a great singer, a great Bluesman.
     
  • MrCharlie
    MrCharlie
    12 feb 11
    You give the vague impression of not knowing a damn thing about what you’re mentioning. First on the list are the Beach Boys, Frank Zappa, Captain Beefheart, Ramones, Neil Young (whom I don’t think you’ve ever listened to), and above all, the Rolling Stones.
     
  • MrCharlie
    MrCharlie
    12 feb 11
    Forget the Stooges, Jeff Buckley, David Bowie, and the Velvet Underground.
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    13 feb 11
    I'm sorry that I give you this impression...but that's not the case!
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    13 feb 11
    Anyway, who said I didn't like Captain Beefheart?
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    13 feb 11
    Rock70 (on December 19, 2010 in the late afternoon):
    captain beefheart????????

    On a J&R chart of the best singer of all time. How should I interpret that?
     
  • McEnroe
    McEnroe
    13 feb 11
    "One of a kind" rock ranking, with a lot of progressive in the top 10. I would place the "Chi" much higher. This is their realm.
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    14 feb 11
    felo: as a singer I don't like him, but as a musician he's great!!! he's a genius!!!
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    14 feb 11
    As a singer, she's even better than as a musician O_O"
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    14 feb 11
    Oh God, are you sure Felo? I really don’t like the captain's voice at all. I’m fine with experimentation, courage, madness, the undeniable uniqueness of the tone, but I don’t consider him a great singer.
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    15 feb 11
    Not at all... Perhaps the opposite; experimentation may not be appealing in albums like Trout Mask Replica, but the voice, the blues, the gritty tone, the "sound of the river." Obviously a great musician, great composer, but as a singer, in my opinion, he is unmatched.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    15 feb 11
    Bah, I don't like it, neither his voice nor Beefheart in general. I've never understood Trout Mask, never managed to finish it. Maximum respect, though.
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    15 feb 11
    I don't even get it, but I'm fine with the other albums.
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    15 feb 11
    Just because you don't like Trout Mask Replica, you should reassess it as a singer
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    15 feb 11
    Look, I don't just know Trout Mask ;) I don't doubt the uniqueness of the sound, so harsh, so dirty as you said, and I really don't like it, neither as a singer nor as a musician; however, I respect it and find Safe as Milk and Mirror Man to be two excellent works.
     
  • MrCharlie
    MrCharlie
    15 feb 11
    The question is another one. But has he ever listened to this Trout Mask Replica? If he has listened to it, did he understand it?
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    15 feb 11
    I’ve listened to it, MrCharlie, and more than once ;) we’re at extremely high levels of experimentation, it’s obvious, but quite simply, I don’t consider it, unlike others, a masterpiece.
     
  • MrCharlie
    MrCharlie
    15 feb 11
    I'm referring to Rock70.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    15 feb 11
    Ah, sorry ;) Anyway, why shouldn't he have listened to it? It doesn't take much to listen to an album, I don't find it that strange.
     
  • MrCharlie
    MrCharlie
    15 feb 11
    I believe you often speak without thinking. Uhm, it seems strange to me that you understand an album like this and label it as a masterpiece. I have the tragic fear that this is yet another overvaluation due to the artist's death.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    15 feb 11
    I completely agree with you about the post-mortem overvaluation (I'm thinking of Morrison and Cobain above all). Never reassess an artist just because they've passed away (of course, I don't know if this is the case with Rock70).
     
  • MrCharlie
    MrCharlie
    15 feb 11
    I only know that on this site it was talked about a lot before, and now even others who remained silent before are discussing the Captain. It seems strange to me.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    15 feb 11
    It's a classic (although I haven't really noticed this too much with Beefheart, if I'm being honest).
     
  • MrCharlie
    MrCharlie
    15 feb 11
    Yes, less than the others, but still the fact that Felo mentioned earlier is quite unsettling.
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    16 feb 11
    Anyway, I see that there is a total absence of alternative currents, New Wave, Post-Punk, Post-Rock, etc...
     
  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    16 feb 11
    hahahahaha! Mr. Charlie is Felo's fake!!! ahahahhahahahahaha!!!
     
  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    16 feb 11
    mhuahahahahhahaha!!!
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    16 feb 11
    -.-" I don't have fakes.
     
  • MrCharlie
    MrCharlie
    16 feb 11
    And I'm not 14 years old. Fortunately.
     
  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    16 feb 11
    and I am the Pope... and Luca was not gay.
     
  • MrCharlie
    MrCharlie
    16 feb 11
    I can't believe it. The Pope himself, what an honor.
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    16 feb 11
    ò_ò I repeat, I don't have fakes.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    16 feb 11
    I didn't know you were German, Stone XD
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    16 feb 11
    And also Nazi Pedophile :D
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    16 feb 11
    I thought I was a decent person, what a disappointment :D
     
  • MrCharlie
    MrCharlie
    17 feb 11
    Here you go, dear Stonecold, Felo should be at school now, usually. Then the other day we were chatting together, so I can't be Felo. Anyway, you tried ;D give it another shot.
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    17 feb 11
    Right, we were in chat, I hadn't thought of that!
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    21 feb 11
    @mrcharlie= of course I've listened to Trout Mask Replica! Why do you think it's strange for a 13-year-old to understand an album like that? And why do you think I'm overrating it just because he's dead? Also, can you explain why I give you the vague impression that you don't know the artists you mentioned above?
     
  • MrCharlie
    MrCharlie
    23 feb 11
    For the positions you’ve assigned, these artists could be in a hypothetical Top 10, yet you’ve placed them behind Queen, Genesis, Uriah Heep, and Deep Purple (with the exception of Frank Zappa, who is first).
     
  • MrCharlie
    MrCharlie
    23 feb 11
    Even the Ramones under Kiss and the Stooges (not just any random bands, you know) behind U2, are we crazy, guys?
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    23 feb 11
    Alright, Jeff Buckley and David Bowie over Genesis and Deep Purple seems a bit much to me.
     
  • Rock70
    Rock70
    24 feb 11
    For me, Queen, Genesis, Uriah Heep, Deep Purple (especially Deep Purple) are much better than the artists you mentioned!
     
  • jdv666
    jdv666
    11 apr 11
    But is Santana really that good? I see that many people like him here on the site...
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    17 may 11
    During the Santana period '69-'74, they were a big band, then goodbye.
     
  • magnum p.i.
    magnum p.i.
    17 may 11
    Hey man, the Stones are not OVERrated, the Stones are the very essence of rock.
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    18 may 11
    Quote for Magnum P.I.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    18 may 11
    I would recommend the inclusion of the Primus.
     
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