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Having heard it several times now, I feel compelled to endorse the absolute greatness of the work, rightly defined above as cultured - indeed very cultured - but not snobbish... a beautiful album, despite its undeniable "waitsiness."

splendid record (but I also liked the recent performances and, with all due respect, I do not share the criticisms). BM is one of the very few paths to modern piano playing, and his nerdiness is only apparent. good review

The album is nice, if you look at things from a Coccianti perspective... but if you see things from a Coccianti perspective, RC's albums are all beautiful and high-level (in my opinion with the partial exclusion of "eventi e mutamenti," which is a rather modest album). The latest one is remarkable. For me. However...: still in a Coccianti perspective of things...

I've always perceived the references to the little snobs and brats of the album - even back then - as twisted, a sort of intellectual kemp avant la lettre. Overestimation...? I don't think so, considering what FB did before and after (by the way, that prenatal live performance was quite something, though...)

The point I’m making is that Waits, in the history of global songwriting, neither American nor Italian, has definitely turned a page. It’s pointless to look for precise references (if any) from albums like Frank’s or Bone Machine. We can spot Vinicio’s references right away. And the fact that he is brilliant in mixing them, and that he is essentially the best contemporary Italian singer-songwriter, well... there’s no doubt about that, and we completely agree. Of course, a phrase like "what does Waits know about jazz nuances" raises more than one suspicion that one doesn’t know Waits very, very well. As for the rest, the accusation of only listening to Waits and Capossela can easily be disproven, if nothing else, by my reviews... just go take a look. Cheers!

please speak only after hearing the incredible "Frank's wild years." Isn't it the case that the limit is with those who don't want to admit the existence of a great American...??? (the comment about cultural level is, forgive me, embarrassing). The defense of homeland values should be expressed differently and under different circumstances. Capossela (by his own admission) wouldn't exist without Waits. And I say this while loving our national Vinicio very much. It's just that the source of inspiration is decidedly too obvious (on a musical level), with a little less Balkan influence and Fellini-esque flair in Waits (who is not entirely devoid of it, however). There are great Italians whose source of inspiration is less evident and more mediated... let's look to them if we want to talk about originality.

Okay, everyone is free to think as they wish: what I'm telling you, with the utmost respect, is that it was interesting to see, back then, how Battiato was able to turn the page, how beautiful it was for certain things of Battisti before and after, and for many others. I also think that those who experienced Hendrix and the Doors live must have enjoyed it a lot (and this, I agree, does not stop us from enjoying today... but, I repeat, if we were sixty, I believe we wouldn't put "The Doors" on the same level as the splendid "LA Woman"). Well... these are opinions (although your reaction, pardon, seemed a bit nervous to me...)

Thank you, my friend, these are indeed interventions (I've always said that those who love jazz love life).

ajeje, the fact that you weren't there is very important. Not in terms of judging the intrinsic quality of the work, which you are free to assess according to your knowledge and culture, but for its historical role, for the absolute novelty of the language. Let me give you an example: those who didn't buy Don Giovanni by Battisti-Panella in '86, but bought or listened to it perhaps after Hegel, do you really think they can express a calm and objective judgment...? Who has watched Amici Miei Act I after seeing Act II...? I could go on for three days. So think about it (and I assure you I didn't mean to insult you, it’s just that sometimes I find it irritating when people believe that the world begins and ends with their own twenty years... and probably you don’t fall into this category... just to be clear: I find it annoying when people place Oasis in the same league as the Beatles).

Even Forever was saved... but I reiterate: the ideas from the first album, the others can only dream of them...