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Thank you, Lob! ;-) And long live the De-Hardcore Nation!!!

@ Ale: "When did the world start going wrong?!" <<< when those from our generation got old!!! ;-P

Alright, shall we talk about Pere Ubu in prime time on Red Ronnie? :-)

the Vandals are legendary... they've always reminded me of the historic Dickies in a hardcore version... they were explicitly parodic, had many insights but often wasted them on caricatures that weren't always funny... a band that deserves to be re-evaluated, in any case...

@ DonJ: yes, they were recognized pioneers of the crossover...but they were also pioneers of the more classic hc: all the kids of the era (I'm talking about 1980) went crazy for Pay To Cum, which was released as a single...however, the "official" History tends to consider them as representatives of the second wave hc, that of '82/'83 (the year their first LP was released)...@ Drunky: hey!!! ;-)

What is certain is that, over the decades, white people have listened to hard rock, punk, hc, etc., while black people have enjoyed soul, funk, rap, and so on... with the necessary exceptions and contaminations, of course, especially today in times of globalization... seeing a band of black musicians (our Bad Brains) playing a genre typically associated with whites in front of an audience of whites and mixed-race individuals (how many Hispanics in the U.S. hardcore scene! Robo, Cadena, Naked Raygun, Roger Miret, etc...) is priceless! It speaks volumes about the expressive possibilities the hc scene used to offer back in those blessed times (despite the cops who were busting balls, believing there were tons of heroin to be sold in the Minutemen's van!!! Crazy stuff!)

I agree with GERMS as well: Social D were stylistically punk... hardcore is something else...

Actually... that’s exactly what I meant, as a music layman (when I have the chance, I strum an acoustic guitar that is strictly OUT of tune) ;-D Anyway, truly, if you slow that riff down, you'll end up with a Keith Richards vibe, or something like that... Notice how Dr. Know plays all the notes, while the practice for an old-school hc guitarist was to "merge" one note over another! :-D

Great Lewis! Too bad you weren't in Mezzago to see Massimo Volume the previous Friday... they put on a fantastic concert... but perhaps two trips to Brianza in such a short time are a bit challenging, I realize that ;-) Unfortunately, I have to tell you that the Caiuss have never impressed me... it seems that the desert is not my environment, and if "if it wasn't meant to be stoner, it hasn't been stoner"... but you never know, I might change my mind... bye! :-)

So many comments! :-) Thank you all, from the heart. I'm glad that you appreciated my tribute to the unbeatable Bad Brains. I'd like to respond now to some of your thoughts. @ Gnagnera: yes, NY's hc-metal came a few years later with bands like Agnostic Front or the amazing and eclectic Ludichrist, but in general, the kids from NY often cited Bad Brains' records as a source of inspiration... regarding the precursors of hc, it would take an eternal discussion: what you say about DOA is true, and also about Middle Class (it's a shame they disappeared so quickly)... then there are many isolated tracks that are "unintentional" precursors of hc (I think of "I See" by the Testors, a one-and-a-half minute blistering track)... the DK were icons of hc, very influential, but they also had a peculiar style influenced by the inclination towards the corrosive satire of their lyrics... @ Alex: to hear the blues scales in Black Dots, you have to do the opposite of Pinhead: play the record at one-tenth the speed :-D @ Bore: but you see, the concerts at CBGB were calm compared to typical hc shows of the time :-)))... CBGB was a new wave venue, and the 14-year-old kids of the time considered new wave to be music for old folks: when they played in places like that, people were shocked! broken bones everywhere!!! @ JDV: basically in the thrash metal riff you should hear all the notes... the execution is more precise and the songs are more intricate and powerful, with two guitars, double bass, solos, etc... hc generally is more "handcrafted," more anarchic and spontaneous, the sound is dirtier, chaotic, the rhythm is frantic... the vocal approach also changes... try comparing Motorbreath by Metallica with Filler by Minor Threat... @ Jack: I've always thought that rock'n'roll was musically more black than white... it's true that the country-folk tradition also had its weight on the giants of rock, take Neil Young, for example... more than anything, I meant to highlight the exquisitely rhythmic element, which was brought into MODERN popular Western music precisely by black people...(not that tarantella or polka were rhythmless music, to be clear ;-D) @ Kosmo: thanks for the links! :-)