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So: I never said that "they have never picked up an instrument." I said that they have the expressiveness of someone who has never picked up an instrument, meaning they have no expressiveness. I've listened to both this and "these days," and to you, "These days" seems like a more "serious" record? What concept do you have of "evolution"? "These days" is practically what I've already written above, just more pop. I mean, the SHIT of SHIT. The fact that they are still having great success today is just a demonstration of how disgustingly, shamefully opportunistic they are. These five idiots are in the history of rock like Madonna or the Backstreet Boys can be, simply because they are a fucking icon suitable for cosmetics advertisements, not for rock. Listen to some decent guitarists, like Guy Picciotto from Fugazi, Tom Morello from RATM, anything but that total idiot Sambora, with his fucking solos that are overplayed and annoying at 2000 chre SHIT. Bon Jovi are SHIT SHIT and more SHIT. Just so you understand better... :D

Crucial milestone??!! Who influenced? What genre/current did it create or renew? What is particularly original and/or innovative about it? Answers: no one, none, nothing.

I believe I am the imbecile in question mentioned above... well, I couldn’t care less about Jombo’s big hair (even if it is kind of disgusting :D) the point is: Bon Jovi is a mediocre band; they belong to a completely obsolete movement, like that of the chart-topping hard rock from the ’80s, defined, depending on the more or less pronounced hardness of the songs, as AOR or glam street, or however you want to define it, since definitions matter little. The point is that this absolutely useless movement does nothing but take the hard rock/rock’n roll of Aerosmith and add a heavy, very kitsch dose of keyboards as a backdrop, and then blast out an unforgettable chorus so everyone is happy. Total garbage. A conservative rock that doesn't grasp the concept of originality, let alone that of innovation, backward, cliched, mediocre, objectively ugly. We're talking about the decade when Indie was emerging in the States. When bands like Mr. Bungle, RHCP, and then Jane's Addiction were experimenting with crossover in Los Angeles. And what do these chickens do instead? Verse-chorus-verse-chorus-solo-fina l chorus, with a redundant and gaudy arrangement, lyrics that (in a banal way) rehash Bruce Springsteen, a remarkable technique at the service of the expressiveness of someone who has never picked up an instrument. S-H-I-T. And excuse my emphasis.

Francis, not to say, but Pink Floyd filled nothing less than the Palaeur in Rome in 1970 (or '71, I'm unsure about the year), just to be clear, during the Atom Heart Mother tour. And the same was done by Emerson, Lake & Palmer (I know this for sure because my dad went) in the same year.

I said that Muse are copying Deftones? Never. I said that your definition of "sneaky aggression" fits not only for Muse but also perfectly for bands like Deftones that came BEFORE Muse. The melancholy of Muse is so trendy and derivative that it’s at least irritating. They are fake and pretentious, Stefano, there's little to argue about.

Guys, guys, Nu metal is definitely relevant, because your favorites are quite the tricksters who know very well how to be trendy and appeal to the alternates, yeah yeah. But listen to those sounds; beautiful gritty distortions, hear those riffs: the one in "new born" could easily fit on a Spineshank or Korn album (the latter, mind you; the former would never make this crap). And then those rhythms, so pumped, so powerful, where do you think they got that from? Nu metal isn't just Limp Bizkit and last-minute nonsense, it was a pretty substantial movement and our three have drawn from it extensively; the "sneaky" aggression you mentioned was invented by bands like Deftones three or four years before Muse even existed—go listen to "around the fur" and then tell me. That said, I'm not saying the Muse themselves are nu metal; they’ve borrowed from other genres, but their fusion hasn’t been successful at all; it’s very unoriginal, not modern at all, just a "smoothie" of various '90s trends with a "classical" twist that apparently was enough for Bellamy to seem original. But that said Bellamy has failed all across the board.

Ah, thank goodness, I was about to lose a hero ; ) Yes, anyway, the others are all "yeah yeah we’re on MTV" : D (not that it takes anything away, of course..)

Well, you’re right; Muse “feed” off Nu-metal, Brit pop, and with a very post-modern attitude, they take, vulgarizing them, the standards of certain baroque music, especially in their singing. They are among the worst bands to come out in recent years, without a doubt; not only do they plagiarize here and there but they also pass themselves off as "innovators," completely failing in this endeavor.

Wow, even Pavement on television? What a disappointment…

Well-written review. I don’t know the album.