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Hendrix's distortions are millions, melodic, non-melodic, noisy, bluesy, rockin', soul, hard, and whatever else. It depends from song to song, from live to live. The fact remains that, although Pietro dei Chi did them before him and, if we want to be honest, even more harshly and noisily than his, or to use a common term, they reached more of the "non-song," they sounded different from Hendrix's because they were too simple. I see Sonic Youth's as clearly rooted in Jimi, elaborate, noisy, and gritty but always within the "more or less standard limits of a song." Maybe it's that I've listened to too much krauto-hipster stuff, but I’ve never heard a "non-song" from SY, and I have all their albums (and I like them). Come on, "non-song" is a super big term for Sonic Youth; they are a very approachable and enjoyable band for many, slightly extreme. When you say "non-song," I think of Magma or Merzbow, definitely not Sonic. As for everything else, I repeat: I am NOT discussing the philosophical side of it all; I truly don't care. I listen to the CD, and I don’t like it. It may be historically vital and mind-blowing, but musically, I don’t enjoy it. As for the Buzzcocks, I like them: as you say, they’re not punk-punk-punk-punk. I'm not judging the fans; I'm judging the fact that those records that were supposed to revolutionize I don’t know what, I find flat and meaningless.

Contextualizing historically doesn't change the music on the CDs. The fact that it has influenced this and that doesn't change the already recorded music, and then everything has influenced everything; this doesn't seem astonishing to me. Philosophy in music is self-serving; it's fun to talk about it, but it doesn't change the judgments. It's not about having an open mind, it's not about wanting to, it's simply about the fact that I don't like that sound—so poor and scrappy, with such simple riffs, those songs are so short that they hardly give you time to tune in. I hate it. And I didn't decide that beforehand; I felt it, I still feel it, and it disgusts me. The only probable thing, philosophically speaking, is that I've heard too much of it, and it has annoyed the hell out of me—that's probable.

Sonic Youth? I'm not following you, I don't listen to Sonic Youth nor do I think they were around in '78. Anyway, the distortions they use come from Hendrix. Then again, the body-song being completely punk is obvious a thousand percent. I've heard too much punk and I keep hearing it, unfortunately, punk is really popular where I'm at. 9 out of 10 bands around here play punk, and in decent venues, they only play punk. It's natural that after an hour or so, I can't stand it anymore and say: how can you listen to this simple stuff? And then it's off to “man, have you heard the germs?” “man, the Buzzcocks!” “man, the minutemen!” “man, the gun club!”. In the end, I've heard them all out of curiosity knowing who they were, and I’ve heard them millions of times coming out of any stereo without knowing who they were. Anyway, what I can't stand is punk in the pure and simple sense of the term with all the attitude of mohawks and spitting. Once the contagion starts, everything is fine. You didn't even mention a single band that I can't stand. I can't stand the early Clash, the Sex Pistols, Social Distortion... just the punk punk punk punk. I even have 5 original Killing Joke records, can you believe that? And Motorhead? Man, they’re more stylistically punk than many punk bands, but they have a full and powerful sound, beautiful. The Zeke? Same deal. I really don't like that ultra-pure stuff, the kind that prides itself on being true-punk, it makes me sick just like true-metal does, and the mentality is the same: it’s kids' stuff.

mmmhhh ngw, I expected more from you. Let's see <<< (and hell no, punk didn't die in '79) >>> Here, unfortunately, I agree with you (unfortunately because for me it would have been better if it had died right away). Then <<< you clearly have no idea what you're talking about, and you haven't even demonstrated that you know at least the basics of the genre you're rambling about, from the essential albums to the "sense" of it all. >>> And you can understand that from a 20-line writing? They write entire books on the movement, and can I compensate everything in 20 lines? Come on, let's be serious. It may also be true that I don't know, but you certainly can't grasp that by reading twenty lines. Furthermore, what exactly is the genre you're rambling about? Rock, Prog, or Punk? And what do you mean by "Punk"? Then <<< you throw insults left and right interspersed with some barely touched concepts. >>> Barely touched? It doesn't seem barely touched to me, the concept is repeated, emphasized, and I would say overly highlighted, and the concept is: "I consider punk rock for kids" or more simply: "punk makes me sick." It doesn't seem like a barely touched concept, and besides, I repeat, I don't have a book at my disposal, WE NEED to be concise. Then come on, if you're not insulting while talking about Punk, then when are you insulting? Come on, everything is very on-topic for the insult. Like “let's challenge each other on the same level,” right? <<< I find progressive in general boring, pretentious, logorrheic to the point of vomiting. >>> Understandable, but keep this sentence in mind for later. Then <<< But I'm not going to review the Clash while shoveling shit against the pinfloi, >>> Maybe you are the one who is wrong, huh? Maybe I am. <<< I survive anyway, "not my cup of tea" and that’s that. >>> Because, what did I do, report Johnny Rotten to SIAE? Did I start a petition to remove all Social Distortion CDs from Europe? No, I simply wrote "not my cup of tea," which in Italian is "minchia che merda," and that’s it. Then this Cup Of Tea thing I never quite understand; I like all modern music, really all of it, even a lot of commercial stuff, even the really stupid House... except punk, which just seems like poorly done rock to me, so I was looking for dialogue to understand, and a punk dialogue has to be heated, right? Damn it, I wanted for once to be punk too, not just you guys, oh. <<< Too bad, I would have liked to read something about this album since I don't know it. >>> There, that ruined your post. First, you tell me you find prog "I find progressive in general boring, pretentious, logorrheic to the point of vomiting," and then you say you would have liked to know more? Come on, you're as credible as Bionic Metalhead asking Gran Collega Metallaro Tepes for information about Gorgoroth. If you want, I’ll give it to you, but it seems a lot like an eye-catching closing sentence. It's obvious this writing bothers you, of course, but just tell me to fuck off and get it over with. However, if by prog you mean Yes or Emerson, Lake & Palmer, then know that this is very, very different. In fact, prog is great because it's varied, punk is bad because it's boxed in. Like sardines that have been in the fridge since '77 :D

Who was it that, after 30 years of presumed hiding, was discovered to have been dead for 29 and a half?

Bernardo seems to hold the world record: 76 years, 43 of which in flight. Nominated for the Nobel Prize in 2006 for his career in the discipline of Acchiapparello. In my opinion, he’s been dead for at least 20 years, but nonetheless, Acchiapparello now has its icon. Run Bernie, run.

Watch out MP, Josi_ is a champion of acchiapparello-death-thrash.

Giubbo is the reincarnation of Tzunami after the incident on Calle del desegagno. Miracle on de-baser. Zurk, rise and walk.

She was hit on the Calle del Desengagno. Malegria remained miraculously unharmed. www.ansa.com

But it's not a diatribe, it's statistics. If you add up all 6,000 reviews, metal is at 10%. Check the numbers and then tell me if it's not true. I never said that what you listen to is crap; I was just wondering for statistical curiosity why you're the only one who, in three years on de-baser, hasn't broadened their perspective even a bit, remaining anchored to Oasis. Like an anthropological study, I'm surveying because I want to open an apocalyptic forum.