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You're such a loser, I was just messing with you. You're spending the whole spring reading reviews, you read them all one by one, there's not even half a review among the last fifty where there's your comment... dude... get a life... the proof of the nine is on the road... you poor idiot... but where the hell do you want to go... Come on, seriously, what the hell are you still doing here on Debaser? You've written hundreds of reviews, you've commented on two million, but can't you find a hole to break out of? idiot, you're such a character... /// NicholasRodneyDrake: no, I'm not from Rome. I was just joking around with the guy above.

Damn, you’ve pulled out one of the most debated albums of that year. The friendly home brawl between them and the OGC was cute. In my opinion, from a commercial standpoint, Boot Camp messed up the presentation of both groups by putting them together. Leflour Leflah was nothing more than the B-Side of the debut single for both the HH and O.G.C., called "Fab'5", and it had been circulating on YO! for at least 6-7 months before the release of the two albums with the first video, "Blah" ("The Heltah, The Skeltah, The nòò Gunn Clappaz"), and then (a month or maybe two later) Leflaur came out, which was basically the same thing (the chorus mentioned the names of the groups, but in Leflour they mentioned OGC first, then HH). The mistake was to release the albums practically at the same time; for example, when I had to choose between the two (also because around '96 there were about thirty Musts of this genre, so you had to be selective), I confidently went for Gunn Clappaz (based on the two videos), and when I happened to hear this, I thought I had made a really good choice. If they had waited a few months between the two, they would have both gained much more recognition and "fame." Well, at the time, the commercial power was much lower; they didn’t even think about tactics to sell better. (PS: Get the Leflaur Leflah video, it’s hilarious. They do crazy dances, and they all have a cannabis cup face.)

Good job, you have some food to eat before discussing with me. Eat, eat.

I WROTE WARP. Sorry if it was born in the 90s.

<< And it’s pointless to beat around the bush: you said “born,” and fortunately some people read these things and form an idea about your knowledge >> Too bad I specified "in its modern form." It’s useless for you to shoot me with the same old spiel about who first used an electronic gadget, because beyond the tool used, the form of Stockhausen's pieces is vastly different from that of modern electronics (ok, now I’ll always add "modern," happy?), but it’s precise to many things Kraut. Stockhausen is a million times more known than a Rother; it’s nearly impossible not to know who Stockhausen is, so don’t come at me with nonsense like "you didn’t know about Stockhausen," because that’s almost like talking about Hard Rock and saying "you don’t know Jimi." I’ll repeat: modern electronics was born with Kraut, not with Stockhausen, nor with Canaxis V (there, I caught Canaxis here), but with the developments that came afterward. And now I’m sorry but I really have to go now, I’m glad you ate quickly, but the digestion suffers. When I come back, I’m sure I’ll find a dinger table explaining that by taking the square root of Richard James you get Stockhausen cubed, and that’s always more fun.

"You came to question me about Bennato, Battisti, and company, knowing nothing about them (now you deny it, but who cares)." I didn't question anything, I just told you they're not for me. "Because even the comments you've left here make it clear that you discovered Czukay, Rother, and company through reviews from Ege, Airone, and various others." Please, I've figured out what the artists were called here (I even thought Neu! were Kraftwerk, but the important thing is to listen to the record, not to know the name of the artist: it's just trivia), but I had the albums of Can, Neu!, Kraftwerk, and the main ones by Faust even on cassette. Here, at most, I got tips about the more marginal works, Faust Tapes, demos, and various things, but I was already quite familiar with the whole situation for a long time. If there's one thing I absolutely didn't know, it's all the material by Josi_ Trell & Co., all the so-called Lagna-Rock. That's what I've gotten to know here, but psychedelia, progressive electronics, and everything that was the '60s and '70s, I had indulged in long before I could vote. While you were still on the beach singing "pink flowers, peach blossoms." Humble bragging a bit, I was lucky enough to meet older drug addicts full of records, and I copied them all. You were with the good kids on the beach making bonfires. Take care to digest well during my absence; I'll be thinking of you.

But Del Piero's bird is all mine, remember that.

"Oh well, at least in the second post, you showed that you understood the issue." I got the issue right away, but I repeat, it had nothing to do with the starting point, and I couldn't care less about analyzing the term Borderline. It's just a damn word; not everyone is as messed up as you that has to dissect everything based on various meanings. You should try to understand the final sense of the matter, and that's it. The final sense of the matter was Cope and his book; who the hell cared about the cosmic rant you proposed. After you complained 800 times about this infinitesimal and pointless point, I finally responded... but it’s trivialities, and you manage to pull out even mathematical rules from it. But get real; you listened to two albums in a month, and now you're talking about the history of music when you arrived here not knowing anyone beyond Battisti. You go eat, while I, unfortunately, have to log off until next Wednesday. Eat well, and digest better, and if you find Miss Italia's hot chick, do some Plin Plin for me too.

<< E Boat-Woman-Song by Czukay in Canaxis V >> What the hell does Canaxis V have to do with modern electronics? Besides the fact that I have all those things, and you can't share anything private with me because I can't download, modern electronics derives from things that came later. Kraut comes from Stockhausen and his buddies, but Kraut has evolved the discourse A LOT to turn it into modern electronics. Warp derives from Kraut, and even if Kraut in turn comes from other things, it doesn't change the fact that Warp (and similar) derives from Kraut. Not from Stockhausen. You can't go into family lineages like Warp being the son of Kraut, who is the son of Varese, therefore Warp is the grandson of Grandpa Varese. It's music, and you can wipe your ass with family trees; it's pure pedantry that serves very little purpose.

<< And I stick to mathematical rules like you stick to your usual fanciful digressions, wrapped up in a typical cliché phrase like “Eat healthy and return to nature.” >> Too bad I know that “eating healthy and returning to nature” is nonsense, while you genuinely believe you’re saying something serious by applying fixed rules to music. But do me a favor.