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MOBs bring me joy. <<< well, then you have a heart of stone! ;-D

Philo, I’m not so sure I would have done better than you: I find myself struggling with "emotional" records like this one... I feel much more at ease describing "encyclopedic" albums like the one by Lubricated Goat, where you can practically name a different band for every song you talk about! :-D VS, on the other hand, is certainly a very multifaceted record, but with a fairly homogeneous sound among the various tracks... and even now I still can’t find the right words to describe a song like Train, especially the chorus (it sounds like Michael Stipe under torture! :-D), or Trem Two (eridaje), a hurricane of emotions that goes far beyond simple anger or bitterness... the MOB had an incredible finesse in setting the deepest feelings to music... Tabba: the singles are extraordinary, especially the one that goes "When you are close to me, it isn't allright?" When we say: music with your heart in your hand...

Well done! It was an incredibly difficult album to review, rich in stylistic and emotional nuances. It would have taken me a lifetime to find the right words to describe all its moods. VS is one of the undisputed fathers of everything that would soon be called "indie-rock": from the Huskers to Superchunk, from SY’s second wave to REM, all the way to grunge, there are simply countless bands that have (often openly) drawn inspiration from the MOB. The roar of the guitar, the fragile and broken melodies, the tortured new wave of Television flipped into a stunning and enveloping noise: all these elements have set the standard. Additionally, as in all pioneering works where the completed form is still a "work in progress," there is a strong experimental imprint, particularly noticeable in the more cacophonous tracks like Fun World or New Nails, with a rhythm continually readjusting and an incessant crackle of guitar and electronics. However, the foundational tracks remain Train, Trem Two, Dead Pool, Mica, Einstein, true indie ballads. Trem Two is my favorite: a lump in my throat. What a truly passionate and knowledgeable review! Well done again! :-)

Anyway, my thoughts are anything but reasoning ;-D Another example of total music, outside of genres, could be Rock Bottom by R. Wyatt...what do you think?

zappiano = total :-)))

And then there's all the talk about themes and the beloved "song form," mocked by dear Zappa...heh, it's a long story...you can go on and on...

Well, for me the electric guitar is the main instrument of rock: it's what, to some extent, distinguishes rock from folk (acoustic guitar), from rhythm 'n' blues (brass, harmonica), from pop (which often focuses on classical or electronic instrumentation)... Obviously, these are all generalizations (you can find the electric guitar in many folk, blues, pop, electronic songs, but in those cases it's not the main instrument), all principles that are valid IN GENERAL... then there's also the issue of the rhythm section: bass + drums in rock and not double bass + percussion (that's why Van Morrison, Tim Buckley, Tom Waits, Leonard Cohen, Nick Drake DO NOT make rock, not at all!! :-D)... Then, there's the matter of the vocals: in rock, singing is generally present; a lot of the 90s electronic music, on the other hand, is instrumental or at most you'll hear sampled voices (PUMP UP THE VOLUME!!! which is actually from the 80s... :-)))... Obviously, it doesn't end here: Suicide only used electronics, Violent Femmes used acoustic instruments, Morphine used sax and double bass... and would I include them in rock? Yes. Moral of the story: once again, I've talked nonsense. ;-)

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DBalavoine human case right away!!!

Trell, do you know Mansell?