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The White Zombie? Metal, I think...

the review is a bit heavy, the movie is beautiful

I’ve only heard the White Zombie mentioned, I’ll try to listen to that album.

professional critics don’t exist

unless one decides to remain in pure anecdote, but at that point what a pain in the ass...

In my opinion, when reviewing an album (or discussing music), it is practically impossible to avoid having a "critical" attitude.

@ramona: "let's just listen" <<< so what are we doing on debaser?

beautiful movie, Fuller was a genius! great job Cheri, excellent review!

Zion, German artist??? I didn't know that... I was actually referring to our legendary Zaione!! (whom I doubt will pass by here, because he hates the Tangenine) :-D

I, on the other hand, disagree. For me, among the many categorizations that are made, the one that distinguishes punk from hardcore is one of the least trivial. In my previous post, I emphasized the stylistic and geographical differences (differences that, with all the necessary distinctions, do not seem arbitrary at all); now I would like to add a conceptual (and thematic) difference that perhaps is the most relevant (as well as the most overlooked). Punk and hardcore emerged in two different contexts (the economically troubled England of the late 1970s; the Reaganite hedonism and yuppies of the early 1980s in the United States). The English punk bands were largely made up of people from the working class, and their audience consisted of underclass individuals, marginalized, unemployed, etc. On the other hand, hardcore developed primarily from high schools, thus belonging to the middle class. Consequently, the themes addressed (and, by extension, the mood) were largely different: punk focused almost exclusively on social and political themes, closely tied to the moment that English society was experiencing at the time, and their attitude was therefore angry, provocative, irreverent, filled with slogans and anarchic anthems… American hardcore, on the other hand, often added an existential, introverted, private, reflective component to this social aspect, which might have started from the acknowledgment of the ills of America at that time, but then ended up operating on more general reflections (to put it in Leopardi's terms, punk was based on historical pessimism, while hc was based on cosmic pessimism). So, it doesn’t seem like a minor difference to me. Unfortunately, the demonization of definitions (a very common hobby these days), the tendency to see "labels" everywhere, the abandonment of seeking the distinguishing traits of one genre compared to another, in my opinion, prevents a deeper understanding of certain musical and cultural phenomena of the past.