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Zeke Dirty Sanchez
Zeke Dirty Sanchez
28 jun 05
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One can only think well of the Stones, but I'm more into Jimi, Cream, Black Sabbath, Zeppelin, and Hawkwind from that era.
Zeke Dirty Sanchez
Zeke Dirty Sanchez
28 jun 05
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Well, when it comes to Tangerine Dream, there are millions of similar bands, Captain Beefheart isn't that far from Zappa and the whole experimental school, but I don’t really get what you mean with Royal Trux and Pussy Galore... what’s so strange about them? Ok, Tangerine and the captain: music of a certain kind that's hard to find, but with the last two, I don’t follow you.
Zeke Dirty Sanchez
Zeke Dirty Sanchez
28 jun 05
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Well, anyway, they remain the group that implemented "deconstruction of the punk stereotype, rock 'n' roll and its hypertrophic, amphetamine-fueled, highly original reconstruction..." ... in PUNK. Those things had already been done by millions of bands elsewhere, but they brought it to punk. A great band that conquered punk, but it's easy to be strong and bullying in kindergarten. Then, of course, since the genre makes me sick, they can only make me sick too. The Stooges, no, they're an enormous band, just to clarify that you never know.
Zeke Dirty Sanchez
Zeke Dirty Sanchez
28 jun 05
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But to be precise, what did the DK contribute to world music? What is the imprint you see in the bands that came after them? What did they do that no one had ever done before? Because I find much, much more protest in the lyrics of 70s prog bands; instrumentally, the DK were so poor it’s pitiful, so I don’t believe they achieved anything... Punk had already been pretty much done by the Stooges, in my opinion; everything post '77 musically (I said musically, not talking about the social movement) changed nothing, absolutely nothing. Let me know if there’s something I’m missing.
Zeke Dirty Sanchez
Zeke Dirty Sanchez
28 jun 05
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But is the story of Vicious’s death true?
Zeke Dirty Sanchez
Zeke Dirty Sanchez
28 jun 05
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Uh... you didn’t read the footnote --> if you think you came to debaser without having any idea what scazzo is, you must be out of your mind, good grief). <--- Read it again and you'll understand a lot of things. Anyway, now Biafra makes me laugh less, but the Dead Kennedys do make me laugh, so in the end, it’s about the same. As for importance in overall music, I wouldn't agree even if you shot yourself; Clash & Sex Pistols, okay they influenced and created currents, they made a lot of noise... but the Kennedys, for me, are nothing. Maybe I'm shortsighted, but for me the Kennedys have absolutely no historical importance in music overall, maybe in punk but for everything else, zero.
Zeke Dirty Sanchez
Zeke Dirty Sanchez
28 jun 05
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I always like to think that Syd Vicious, the ancestor of the Coglionazzi, after being arrested for hitting his wife, wants to celebrate upon getting out of jail, and he celebrates with a nice overdose that kills him. The King OF Coglionazzo: violent, heroin addict, idiot (a guy who's been shooting up for years and doesn't know the limit dose). Then I don’t know if this story is true, but some punks told it to me proudly, as if it were something to boast about, and I like to believe that it’s all true. I can totally picture that idiot Vicious dying like a fool.
Zeke Dirty Sanchez
Zeke Dirty Sanchez
28 jun 05
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Ah, and that thing about Biafra suing the rest of the group for money made me smile. Oh, don’t get me wrong, it’s a completely legitimate right to report those who wrong you, and he did a great job in suing his associates, but you can’t help but laugh a little, considering that when he wants to, Biafra isn’t so punk after all... I wonder how nice he looked in court with a suit and tie. (Oh, maybe I’m wrong and he didn’t sue the group but someone else... but given how much they said to the cops and the justice system, you can’t help but chuckle.)
Zeke Dirty Sanchez
Zeke Dirty Sanchez
28 jun 05
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What I’ve read about the Kennedys is little, and it was solidly recommended to me by my punk friends. I remember a whole load of bullshit typical of the movement. I listened to them a lot, actually too much, and they’ve always made me feel sorry for them. Then, your speech makes sense, but only increases my pity towards the punkers, who brag about not being able to play; they make me feel sorry for thinking that rock n roll is all about that; they make me feel sorry for there being bands called Dirty Rotten Imbeciles. Just like Brutal Gore, it’s normal for a Brutal Gore band to have a name, a cover, and splatter lyrics... and this normality disgusts me. In your speech, you've managed to capture all the negative sides of punk that I already find disgusting, and by boasting about them, my revulsion grows. As I said many posts above: You can say they are nice idiots dedicated to nonsense... but don’t come tell me they are musicians or that they make music, and for heaven's sake, don’t use the word artist when talking about punk. In short, I agree with you, and precisely because I agree with you, punk makes me feel so sorry, its followers make me pity them cubed, and those who play it I consider idiots, that’s all. Better a Brutal-Grind kid than a punk, without a doubt.
Zeke Dirty Sanchez
Zeke Dirty Sanchez
28 jun 05
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Reread the entire discussion, you haven't said a damn thing, what reasons should I consider? What are you talking about? What have you said that could be considered reasonable? What's the point of your argument? What the hell are you talking about, if it's okay to ask?
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