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No no, I explained myself poorly. I say and reiterate that he is the most technically skilled and vocally gifted of all time. This does not mean that talent is measured by technique (not even close), nor does it mean he was the best of all time. It only means that when discussing technique, he is the best without a shadow of a doubt. When it comes to the range of Tim Buckley, I say that Tim had it in spades, but so did Stratos. Regarding the "moving" aspect, it gets subjective, and when it comes to control, I wouldn't agree even if you shot me, since to my ears, it seems that Demetrio certainly had control; in fact, he had so much control that it made it seem like he was uncontrolled, with all the frequency bursts he could create with his voice... like all other discussions, these are subjective conversations. I was talking purely about technique, which can be measured objectively, and in that realm, nobody beats Stratos, technically the best. If you want to talk about great singers, the conversation changes, oh how it changes; then we also have to praise Johnny Rotten since it doesn’t seem that anyone before him did that harsh voice... and we must also praise Syd Barrett and his Freaky little screams... it’s such a vast discussion, I was trying to stick to the topic of pure technique. Not because it’s the most important, just because I wanted to reaffirm Demetrio’s supremacy in a technical sense. :D PS But why is it that every time we get into a niche discussion, you all come up with huge discussions that can’t be carried on precisely because we don’t have days and days to spare? I’m for the niche, for subgenres, for sub-subgenres, and for the classification of movements... small discussions that come to a conclusion; otherwise, we’re always there saying "The Great Pink Floyd..." :D
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Because it was indeed easy to ride the Hard Rock wave in '72, right? There were just clowns like Hawkwind, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple... super easy to ride the wave in '72, total nonsense.
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Well Ajeje, either we talk about technique or we set aside "the devilry of Mongolian technique with double and triple voices." It may suck for millions of people, but he was technically the best, objectively the most technical of all, no one excluded... and it's precisely the devilry of double and triple voices that makes him technically the best. If we set those aside, the discussion loses its central point; my favorite voice is Zack De La Rocha's, I like it much more than Demetrio's... but that has nothing to do with it, Demetrio remains technically millions of years ahead :)
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Now tell me what importance the REM have in music in general.
Don't exaggerate, great band, immense band, fantastic band... POP. Period: POP, no importance in music in general, importance below zero in music in general. Great band okay, but it has nothing to do with music in general, come on... nice little songs but come on, for the REM I prefer the DT, at least there’s music to listen to, not just four whines.
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I believe it's more "Pop" Hot Rats compared to this. This one is easy to listen to because of the melodies and the songs that have more or less a structure (keeping in mind that we're talking about Franc'à'Zapp), but I don't feel it's as "Pop" as Hot Rats. Just mental gymnastics, you know.
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Well, your thesis proves nothing: then why are there so many Queen cover bands even though none of the singers have even a tenth of Mercury's voice? They perform the songs singing poorly, and nobody dies. In my opinion, there are few Bon Jovi cover bands simply because Bon Jovi sucks :D
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Moreover, Zulù is an idiot like all Italian posse, and it’s always good to reiterate that.
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It's useful to demonstrate how many people on the left in Italy live in an utopia and lack the habit of doing politics while staying connected to reality. It's useful to show how many idiots there are in Italy, it's useful to highlight how many people shoot immense nonsense with a pride that is downright hilarious. Anyone can say that everything is crap; criticizing is easy, it doesn’t take much... but none of these people say how to improve, they continue ceaselessly to point out the same wrong things, showing a mentality of the mentally challenged, given that all the extreme politicians (both right and left) are indeed mentally challenged.
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Aeneas, saying that Stratos was the most vocally gifted singer of all time is OBJECTIVELY right and sacred. You might prefer the voice of someone else, but one thing is the voice, another is knowing how to use it as an instrument. Stratos could do that, the others couldn't. He was OBJECTIVELY the best; find me someone who could replicate his feats, they don’t exist. So anyone who writes "always to be praised" doesn’t necessarily have to be me, they are just someone who can distinguish between a beautiful voice and vocal technique. A beautiful voice is something you come across, technique has to be learned, and Stratos taught it to everyone, without exception. Frank Sinatra could at most give him a pump action, or any other singer pales in comparison to the voice of Demetrio, things that normal people cannot do, while he could, the best, objectively unbeatable. It’s not a matter of taste; tastes take a back seat to obvious technical superiority. Sure, he might very well suck for millions of people, but he remains objectively the best.
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Oh well, if you call this crucifixion, I guess you don't quite understand where you are...