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Gorilla S/T
6 sep 05
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For the Baby Ruth I’ll ask the Experts, I’ll let you know. As for the meeting, if Cathedral comes to Italy I will definitely go; otherwise, the date in Switzerland isn’t bad either, but that’s certain, while the Italian date is still being organized. Then there’s always that huge possibility called Electric Wizard in Milan... but I have more faith in Cathedral.
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Well, there are a thousand much better ones. For example, Alicia Keys sends it straight from Corporacion Dermkoestetica to Melissa.
Gorilla S/T
5 sep 05
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Yes, I agree. That's exactly why I say it's difficult to venture into the lesser-known past; you read the names but can't find information, reviews, or anything else that helps you understand if it's worth the hassle to go all out to find it (since in the end, the time you spend might be worth more than the €10 for the record). You might spend two hours jumping from one mail order to another, then the record arrives and you don’t like it, or you say "damn, it's super seminal"... but you feel it "has aged poorly." On the other hand, with revivals, you find 90 reviews complete with ratings, information, listenable samples, and so on. With this, I don't want to say "long live the revival," but just "the revival also has its positive aspects." ;-)
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Eeehhh now you cling to the rules of galactic classification, come on, that Growl fits badly on their riffs anyway. The Monkeys pound three times harder, they're quite different from the Zillas. What I don't like is the contrast between Riff-Attitude and the way of singing. The Monkeys are pretty much all about metal like everything else, the Zillas create songs that start with background laughter, the sound of a bong, the super-crazy riff and... bam! Evil and devastating Growl, it doesn't fit, no no no. The Monkeys are all dark, nasty, evil and stinky, the Growl suits them.
Gorilla S/T
5 sep 05
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The thing is, the old groups are hard to catch, they were already unknown back then, let alone now. There are a thousand names like Iron Claw, Iron Maiden (no, not those Metal ones), Zior, Arzachel... that I’d like to discover well, but it’s all out of print stuff, or downloads or you can just forget about it, and those who neither have the desire nor the possibility to download can only buy the Revival that you can find in all online cd-stores. Little by little, they are reissuing a lot of old stuff, but before we have all the 70s Hard Rock available on cd, it will take another 20 years.
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A cornerstone, yet it isn’t as willingly listened to as other cornerstones of the era. It is a cornerstone because they dared to push boundaries and went beyond everything that was circulating at the time, but the fact remains that it isn’t appreciated as much. There aren’t well-defined ideas, just a grand idea of doing "something extreme," five out of five for its immense historical value, but I’ve never bought into it, and it’s unlikely I will in the future: there’s too much delirium relative to the substance, which is always there, but there’s really too much delirium. Perhaps, after a careful remastering done seriously, I would reevaluate everything, but as it stands, it comes off like Psycho says, a "mess," making it difficult to fully appreciate something you can’t quite define. However, it’s from 1967, and you can’t expect it to sound perfect = 5/5.
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No, HC Melodic = Ramones Style Made in California = Zero respect. I don’t think the Ramones made songs in Growl; they also had a lot of melody, so the copying is the same, therefore zero respect. :)
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You started this part of the conversation by saying that the Zeke take from the BD. I responded to that statement saying that the Zeke didn't take even a single agreement from the BD, then you talked to me about movement, and I reiterated that I still disagree, meaning: the Zeke didn't even take the attitude from the BD, since in terms of attitude they are more aligned with 70s Hard Rock than anything else (motorcycles, leather vests... very Motor Head), and I’m reiterating that even now. As for the discussion about melodic HC, I agree that they were among the first, but for me that’s a fault, not a merit. :)
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I don’t agree, even if you talk about movement. The ones who made it known are the Ramones and the Pistols, or the Dead Kennedys and the Black Flag if we want to be precise. The BD are certainly not the most famous, just a number in the huge list of punk bands, maybe among the top ten, but still on the list of those who “came after.” In London in '77, there were more punks than goldfish, and yet the BD were still in high school.
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Once upon a time, there was a beautiful forum by Francis where he would tell us all to fuck off along with many other assorted insults. He also said that he would never return because he wouldn't lower himself to our level. Then he came back, and left again, slamming the door and telling us again that we were too beneath him. Then he came back again; we should start a betting pool on how long he will stay this time. The forum would need a good search, too bad it takes hours, but it's there.