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Pink Floyd A Saucerful Of Secrets
Pink Floyd A Saucerful Of Secrets
21 sep 05
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Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds, yes, but it’s from 1967, and it’s indeed a psychedelic vein in an album that isn’t completely so, and in 1967, quite a few fully psychedelic albums came out and had already been released, and they (the Beatles) merely approached the sounds of the time, they didn’t baptize/create it or similar. The discussion started by talking about "fathers & creators & revolutionaries," and 1967 is a bit late to "create-found-revolutionize" :). I can't define a single founder, but I don't include the Beatles among the group of fathers; they may have "pushed" the genre, but much less than many other groups and certainly much less than the Floyd. It's not that I'm comparing psychedelia to heavy sounds; I’m just saying that heavy sounds are still alive today, while the lighter stuff has been dead for a long time, and as of 2005, the genre is much more "Floyd-13th" and some of Zappa, compared to the Beatles sound. The Grateful Dead blow my mind, another group way ahead of its time, another group that debuted in 1967, another group that I rank before the Beatles as "psychedelic revolutionaries." The Beatles revolutionized other things; they have nothing to do with the psychedelic revolution, they just rode the wave.
Pink Floyd A Saucerful Of Secrets
Pink Floyd A Saucerful Of Secrets
21 sep 05
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Well, if we want to go into soft psychedelia, before the Beatles comes Zappa & The Mothers. The Beatles revolutionized a ton of stuff, they are a cornerstone for 14,000 topics in music, but when it comes to psychedelia, they don’t fit in at all.
Pink Floyd A Saucerful Of Secrets
Pink Floyd A Saucerful Of Secrets
21 sep 05
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Yes, but he was talking about Revolver and then brought up Penny Lane, which came a year and a half later; he wasn’t talking about Pepper. Pepper is fine, but it’s from ’67, the year when 187,000 psychedelic records were released. It's not that Pepper doesn’t have a psychedelic streak, but there’s a difference between “a streak” or “an ending” and Are You Experienced, Red Crayola, all that stuff. Revolver is from ’66, specifically August, released after the 13th Floor, and Revolver has a slight hint of "strong" psychedelia, it’s very soft, too soft to hold up against the others, psychedelia for my grandmother. Which doesn’t mean “crap,” it just means it’s different stuff: softer, things that today can’t be considered psychedelic; just because in ’66-’67 it was kind of strange, doesn’t mean it’s still viewed that way. Take Penny Lane as an example: Psychedelia for my grandmother—if Penny Lane is psychedelic in 2005, then I’m Gigi Sammarchi. Come on, nowadays Penny Lane is an ordinary song; the title track of this album was and remains psychedelic to the bone. That’s why I say this created a current that still lives on today; the psychedelia of the Beatles and "Bike" faded quickly, it can’t compete with 15-minute trips made up of 900 overdubbed sounds that shred your brain, with obsessive drum patterns, distorted bass lines, and guitar distortions galore.
David Axelrod Songs Of Experience
David Axelrod Songs Of Experience
21 sep 05
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The cover and title are pretty Hendrix :D. I've never come across one of his albums, but he gets mentioned often; let's see if I can find something.
Pink Floyd A Saucerful Of Secrets
Pink Floyd A Saucerful Of Secrets
21 sep 05
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Yes, psychedelia for my grandma. The Beatles are huge, but come on, psychedelia for my grandma. Great songs, great music, immense... but psychedelia for my grandma.
The Rolling Stones A Bigger Bang
The Rolling Stones A Bigger Bang
21 sep 05
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This review is a container of galactic nonsense, truly one of the finest from De-B. But aren't you ashamed?
No Doubt Tragic Kingdom
No Doubt Tragic Kingdom
21 sep 05
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BUT you have your insecurities, Birobiro has written more reviews than you, of a genre that you don’t even know because you listen to trash, don’t worry we know that Bironiro has a little flaw called No Doubt, while you are a flaw with two legs and two arms.
Pink Floyd A Saucerful Of Secrets
Pink Floyd A Saucerful Of Secrets
21 sep 05
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Well, exactly. There is no inventor, there is no definition of "genre." But I never wrote "so-and-so invented it" or "psychedelia is." I only said that this album is the most psychedelic by the Floyd and one of the most psychedelic of the 60s, and it's terrifying in how beautiful it is. I didn’t mention either an inventor or a definition, you started with "Sgt. Pepper & Casino," eh :)
Jesus Lizard Liar
Jesus Lizard Liar
21 sep 05
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I haven't heard them well yet, I can only say that Denison is cool because of Tomahawk.
Pink Floyd A Saucerful Of Secrets
Pink Floyd A Saucerful Of Secrets
21 sep 05
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Bah, the debut of the 13th Floor is a year before Sgt. Pepper. Red Crayola, the same year as Sgt. Pepper, which is the same year as Piper. There isn't an inventor, but if there must be one, surely the Beatle is the least credited, especially since Sgt. Pepper has a minimal vein, but minimal, compared to an Interstellar Overdrive-Astronomy Domine. Or do you have a really simple, easy-listening idea of psychedelia, like that of Dark Side Of The Moon, psychedelia for kindergarten and/or nursing homes. // Dad, I'm missing the Live Anthology, I'm looking for it now, Floyd live is always money well spent, even Waters’ with O'Connor isn't bad, obviously it's not magnificent but it's worth every bit of €10 :D
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