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"I'm sorry, but they don't PRODUCE billions, they are VALUED at billions." Yes, tell Renato Soru that they don’t produce a damn thing, and he'll have a good laugh from up in his helicopters.
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Jurix, you've said a lot of nonsense about cars, technically speaking, let me say that without offense. Regarding the stickers, it's a bit different from saying "they force you to change cars." As for the factories, "DAICO, BERTONE, SIMAT ABRASIVI" were not market leaders at all; Nokia in the Caserta area didn't seem to have the company's nerve center. I work in construction, and the situation isn't good, okay, but I don't believe your friends are all leaders in the sector. I didn't say "wow, how great," but I did tell you that "forcing" was wrong, and "leaders in the sector" was nonsense. And especially... so what? You came to the conclusion that there's a crisis? Damn, how did you figure that out?
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"I don't want a world revolution; I would settle for much less, for example, that people were not hypocritical and that they didn't talk about the 'virtues' of work." I understand what you mean, but you're talking about a planet where millions of people buy U2 records. This is a practical example to say: the population needs a command, someone who takes responsibility for the consequences and, of course, the many advantages. So, since I believe that 'self-management' will never take off, I find a world revolution more feasible, albeit still incredibly complicated. I'm not saying you're talking nonsense; I'm just saying that you're addressing colossal matters, and even after just half an hour of thinking about it, you've already found 38 gigantic problems connected to solving the first huge problem. I can't handle it.
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I also consider anyone who changes their phone every three months as smart as a vegetable chopper, but it doesn't harm me seriously. He's a fool, but that's worse for him. The waste problem is getting heavier and heavier, okay. If governments seriously commit to controlling their disposal (like employing all surplus public workers or private workers on unemployment benefits), then companies will emerge that will invest in research and find ways to eliminate waste cleanly (the system already exists, it's just too expensive), and jobs and money will also be created from there. The waste problem exists because there's a system of throwing everything away haphazardly, and in Italy, it's nothing... have you ever seen landfills in Indochina? It's an incredible sight. Have you ever seen the landfill in Chicago? It's wonderful (one of Obama’s proudest achievements).
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<< they keep making laws to force us to change our car every 5 years >> wrong example (besides the fact that no law "forces" you to change it every five years, there are still cars from the 60s on the road) that's the only field where it's positive for humanity to eliminate old productions. An old car pollutes more (for those who use it in the city), brakes less (for those who use it on highways), holds the road less well (for those who use it on winding country roads). An old and worn-out car is dangerous wherever you use it. Then, about mobile phones and other things, yes, it's idiotic to change them twice a year but... nobody is forcing you. << what’s the point of seeing companies or corporations you've never heard of being listed on the stock market that generate billions >> The point is that they produce billions, it’s not difficult << factories "industry leaders" with extremely high production peaks that suddenly close overnight? >> Give us an example, I've never seen one. Anyway, fine, nice speech: start thinking of a multi-century plan for the retirement of consumerism too. It's easy-peasy, why hasn’t anyone done it yet?
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But do you have any idea how complicated it is to change on the fly the global economic system based on consumerism? First of all, we would need to create a world government (because the first one to "stop" would be crushed by the others), then we would need to manage it fairly and justly (we can't even manage this in small states, let alone on a planet), and only then can we start planning something like that. And what does it take? It’s a piece of cake. As president of the world, I propose Fratello Metallo, just, good, and rock n roll.
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I paid the gas bill, the electricity bill, the car maintenance, and the rent all on the wonderful day yesterday, and unless I recover scattered credits within two days, I'll miss the best SHOD since the dawn of time. The Heads, White Hills, and Obiat are not your everyday lineup. Monno 'nfame. PS KillerFiller, as soon as I log on, I'll add you.
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On this, you are right, but it's a different matter. One thing is to discuss the direction of companies, while you are discussing their very reason for existence. Your argument is much more complicated, with two hundred thousand associated factors and seven million consequent problems that would lead to another four million discussions. Honestly, I can't wrap my head around it, and I prefer to use my brain to think about something more immediate.
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<<< with the advent of Silvio it's fine like this, if not... shoo! >>> Isn't it wonderful? Better to lay off than to let everything fail (and then everyone is at home with unemployment benefits paid by us), as has happened millions of times in Italy. And especially why do Fiat workers have unemployment benefits, while a worker from a small company has nothing? The difference lies in the bosses, not in the workers who should all be worth the same. It's senseless, and I hope that as we move forward it becomes more normal to reject proposals without at least some immediate practical backing. Companies need to produce and earn, not to provide jobs at all costs only to fail miserably or be absorbed (with the associated layoffs disguised as "restructuring" manipulated by the state). Fiat, Finmeccanica, Olivetti, and others have profited at our expense with the help of the union, circumventing the system and even passing it off as "proletarian victory." I would completely decapitate all union leaders, no one excluded, and politicians with double salaries before anyone else.
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Isis, they left the temporary workers at home because it can be done. Bosses, little bosses, and friends of friends definitely have a permanent contract, and firing in Italy is a titanic endeavor. Yes, we are in the hands of a bunch of imbeciles: the unions. It’s easy to talk blah blah blah from your position, try sitting in charge and you’ll realize. The same thing is happening everywhere: there's no money, and they are firing whoever can be fired, not who deserves to be fired (or is really useless during this time). And I’m not saying yours is the simplest position, just that, as I said before, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Either you can freely fire anyone, or you have to stick to the rules even when they are counterproductive.