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Kanye West My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

26 dec 10

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<< Negro in Italian is not used as an insult. >> You have an outdated vocabulary.

Kanye West My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

26 dec 10

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<< they judge based on a personal profile >> I was just pointing out that on these pages you were representing a lot of stuff from nigga origin, nothing else. The fact that you’re small I realized from the fact that you didn’t have time to read shit, but you talk about the history of music as if you had lived it yourself.

Kanye West My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

26 dec 10

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Look, your argument falls apart at the beginning. << It is hypothesized that Miles Davis would have had a hip hop turn. >> No, he said it himself, it’s written in biographies, his friends say so, he mentions it in the Doo Bop booklet. Then we have the other one << jazz was a musical genre that found immediate strong approval among whites. >> Absolutely not. Jazz was born during slavery, so the educated whites (like you) certainly didn’t want to mix with the filth of the slaves. You start from your own assumptions without being informed, while I base my statements on what has been said and written by those who were in the midst of it. << But hip hop is highly ghettoized music, strongly representative of a certain social sphere. >> Another bullshit, I’m sorry but you really don’t get it. The first rappers were all middle-class people and there was no talk of dealing and protest; that came at least ten years later. You completely lack the right knowledge to make an argument, I’m not hypothesizing a damn thing.

Kanye West My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

26 dec 10

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"reply in these tones," The tones you chose, with a statement that is 100% categorical and a truly horrible and gratuitous G. So don't play the innocent; you came in with a super cocky post and then, when left without arguments, you appeal to the fact that “I don't feel like discussing in these tones.” You don't know what the hell to say, so stop pretending to be the polite one when you’re not.

Kanye West My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

26 dec 10

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On this site, there’s an attitude towards this genre that frankly leaves me speechless. It’s like this everywhere because it's the newest genre with content (the other new genres are all instrumental), and the content hasn't been normalized yet. Metal and its Fantasy/Horror content have gone through the same path, and now it’s Rap’s turn with its Noir/Police themes. One can sing about a metal track going around burning witches and chopping off monsters' heads, even if witches and monsters don't exist. Those who do Prog can say whatever the hell they want and create lyrics that are mind-fuck that mean everything and nothing. Punk is even worse; the more bullshit you spew, the more punk you are. Rap is still under scrutiny; maybe you deal drugs too, but if you forget to mention that you sell drugs and are still poor, people will come and say, "Hey now you’re Pablo Escobar, get outta here...". This genre will also be normalized, and in rap tracks 15 years from now, even a 20-year-old living in the mountains with Annette, where the sky is always blue and his name is Lucienne, who is blonde and works in the Ricola factory, will be able to talk about dealing. It will be normal.

Kanye West My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

26 dec 10

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Me "ad cazzum"? I talked to you about books and I've already provided historical references with precise timelines, and you put words in my mouth like "you're ahead because you listen to rap, you're the only begotten son of God," and I'm going ad cazzum? I'm not? Answer the points; you're just deflecting the conversation with little jokes that perfectly qualify you: a silly child who said something bigger than himself and can't prove it. He just thinks it, because he's a child and hasn't had the time for someone to point it out to him.

Kanye West My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

26 dec 10

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No, but answer us Amena, tell us what you think is the historical/social difference between the Rap of the projects and the Jazz of the Brothels. Enlighten us with your wisdom. Make us laugh.

Kanye West My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

26 dec 10

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<< so I am the ignorant one. >> Honey, I wrote that you are ignorant because "You’ve never read a music history book, you’ve never read old reviews, you’ve never read biographies of great musicians," it has nothing to do with what I listen to. << you think that jazz and rap have anything to do with historical context, >> I don’t think so, but those who make a living talking and playing music can afford to write books. Like, this is something (also) Miles Davis said, who died after his first rap record; otherwise, he would have made more, you know? You really don’t have the credentials to talk about it, read some biographies and then we can discuss, ignorant.

Kanye West My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

26 dec 10

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"<< it has nothing to do with me, >> I just saw your top ten of all time. Either you're really too young to know any better, or you’re just the usual mentally challenged person who can only understand a certain genre. Nothing to say about the names, don’t get me wrong. But damn, how heterogenous you are, a true connoisseur of music at 360°. You’re the limited one, not the others, accept that and above all, keep quiet, it makes you look better; we're not on 'punkettosiadolescenti.com', we’re talking about the entire music world."

Kanye West My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

26 dec 10

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<< Never said jazz, leave it to the blacks, never said blues, leave it to the blacks, never said rock'n'roll, leave it to the blacks. >> You’ve never read a music history book, you’ve never read old reviews, you’ve never read biographies of great musicians. In short, you don’t even know what the hell you’re talking about, and you fill your mouth like a little kid. << And if I were black, I would be deeply pissed off with that shitty Italian loser who listens to MY music. >> You wear the Kefia in your photo, a black guitar, and a pedal that was first used by a black man. Maybe you should make peace with your brain, understand that you’re young and ignorant, and get to know modern history better before spouting bullshit. I don’t care, it’s okay, but you’re just a poor ignorant.

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