telespallabob

Why shouldn't you believe the press? Because it often tells lies and serves as the servile megaphone for the single narrative that ultras are just crazy outcasts who unleash their wild instincts through the destruction of Italy following a football team. The same press that sensationalizes absurd cases, writing huge headlines about versions and events that will later turn out to be false months down the line (but then, there will be no journalist to tell the counter-version or apologize. There will have been the false guillotine of repression instead). The same press that justifies the police every time they make a mistake, often climbing shamelessly on mirrors or, to hide a shameful episode, tells the country false news, even claiming that an ultra was beaten by their friends. (If you think these cases are absurd, you're mistaken. They have genuinely happened, and I have no qualms about citing them.) But let's move on. The press that claims to know ultras without ever having seen one in person or having confronted them, who have no idea what a DASPO is, how it works, and don’t ask themselves what the hell the “tifoso card” is, blindly believing the version of the duo Maroni-Manganelli. Why shouldn’t I believe the state? The same state whose representatives speculate on football and even campaign for elections (and just lately, the case where two candidates for the city council of Foggia got their hands on a whopping 350 non-nominative tickets for the Foggia away game in Benevento, when the collective sale was only supposed to be for organized fans), the same state where one of its top officials (the "minister" La Russa) used Catania for propaganda in 2003 to keep it in Serie B, and then, alongside his colleagues, comes to lecture politicized fan bases (in truth, such morality is only directed at one curve, that of Livorno. A curve that has no right to criticize Berlusconi, who threatened to pull Milan out if he heard any chants against him!). The same state that has the police repressing me nonsensically? A repression so cowardly and disgusting that during promotional celebrations, it lets in flags and banners full of color and festivity, says nothing, and then on the FIRST DAY of the championship after, slaps a 1-YEAR DASPO on a fan who lit a smoke flare at the end of the match to celebrate his beloved team's victory (this, too, has actually happened)? The same state that seizes a banner because it had the laurel wreath, a symbol of hatred towards modern football, and then returns it without objection two hours later? The same state and the same press that demands lynching for ultras and allowed Carraro to go unpunished for Calciopoli? Let's not kid ourselves! And then let’s move on to the second part of your comment. You can’t believe that people who work just as hard as you do to support their families dedicate their time to a healthy and genuine passion that manages to unite many people, create a community space, and even take initiatives for those less fortunate? I'm sorry, but that's your problem. I could give you many more examples of what Franci! does for the Bergamasca curve.

Credibility, as far as I'm concerned, is expressed through consistency. I've already mentioned the consistency of the Lega members a few lines above. Let it be clear, it's not that I would vote for them if they were credible. They have ideas that are far removed from my own thoughts.

No soccer revisionism! In my opinion, yes, you made a mistake. First of all, why don’t you answer my questions, then we can discuss. Bring me some arguments instead of useless sarcasm.

I see that you don't understand the problem. Everyone can believe what they want, but if I really have to vote for a party, I must do so not only based on the slogans they write but also on their attitude, the consistency they demonstrate. On the fact that what they do corresponds to what they say, while in Italy everything is justified. A politics that can deny everything and demonstrate the worst things for a handful of peanuts (translated into seats) is justified. And then these people, from whatever party they belong to, come to ask for my vote and tell me that voting is useful for the exercise of democracy? Go to hell... you and your phantom democracy. And now, if you don’t mind, I'm going to annul my ballot.

"The League has remained the only party with a firm and concrete ideology." But come on! Consistent? Since when? The League is the party that hailed Di Pietro as a hero, that called for the gallows for Craxi, (and shouted shame when Parliament dramatically saved him) now it has bowed down to Berlusconi and defends him when he talks about “justice on schedule.” Where the hell were you in '92-'93? If you were really young, educate yourselves! (And let’s not forget that for a long time, the headlines of Padania associated the word "Berlusconi" with the word "mafioso.")

Sorry for the question, but has any of you ever been in a curva? Have you ever had dealings with representatives of the ultrà world, or do you participate in initiatives? Or do you only "know" from what the newspapers write? I have doubts that you are ignorant on the subject. It seems like you fully believe the state and the press, those who make you think that safety in the stadium will be ensured by turnstiles and a "fan card," trusting organizations that will, at the right moment, use the same repressive methods against you, but it will be too late to contest. It's easy to report the death toll, but people quickly forget when the opposite happens, when an ultrà is killed by the police or when the "state" is wrong when it issues a DASPO (and there's much to say about that too. If you want, we can discuss). But what do you know about it? I say this frankly: the only thing preventing me from being an ultrà is the excessive distance from the city where I live (Brescia) to the one where my favorite team plays (which is Salernitana). The film? In my opinion, it's quite limited; it tries to describe only one dimension of fandom (the clash between supporters) without delving into it properly.

It may be a coincidence, but today at work, a series of books came back from cataloging, and the first one in the box was this one. I like to look at the cataloged books this way; I get an early glimpse of what we have bought as a library: I do this particularly for non-fiction rather than fiction. Anyway, better not to digress. So I looked at the title page of this book and remained indifferent—useless material I had already seen, with no literary value whatsoever. That was enough for me. I won't read it, and looking at the review above, I made the right choice.

@Stoney, I made it clear that I do not share their ideas and methods. CasaPound is also concerned with other issues, not just housing emergencies. Why do only extremist groups care about certain problems? Finally a good question. Does the latest situation disturb you? It makes me think a lot. Probably people seek out those instances because many are tired of ideologies and would like someone to address the many daily problems with criteria and seriousness. That should be the role of politics, but it doesn’t seem attentive or focused on this kind of thing. It prefers to tear each other apart over nothing on Vespa or Floris. It looks at the so-called "politics of doing" (which as a concept means nothing) and so just asking questions and delving into certain problems, because they are experienced, leaves a good impression. Do you think you agree?

Amid all this proliferation of comments and reviews about the far-right, an image came to my mind. On the walls of Brescia, at this time, there are quite a few banners and writings from Forza Nuova. One particularly struck me: "Your bank will kill you." Below it was another phrase: "Fascism is not the solution. Death to the fascist." The review is terrifying, not for the genre or the proposed group, but for the way it handles the subject. The "voiceless Sinevox," as the reviewer calls him, is Gianluca Iannone, a prominent figure of the far-right in Rome and also among the leaders of CasaPound. If you think this is just a joke, you are gravely mistaken. I do not approve of their ideas and methods, but it makes me think that people reduce it all to Piazzale Loreto and similar situations, throwing it on those two damned little words, without asking how they are structured, how they think, and what initiatives they pursue (starting with the battle over housing emergencies in Rome; in a city where construction is continuous and it expands into the hilly areas, to the delight of various Ligrestis, Caltagirones, and their ilk, and despite this, many still do not have a home). I don't believe they have asked themselves certain questions about why some movements keep gaining support. They don't ask, because they think that the Italian right is a place of non-culture and non-thought, of people stuck in the 1930s. Sometimes it just takes some research, it doesn't require much, and trust me, you don't sink low when you try to understand a corner of our reality that disgusts us. P.S. Honestly, I consider Nazirock a good documentary.

Personally, the first thing that happened to me with Weezer was this album, which disappointed me a bit. Then I made it up to myself later.