cptgaio

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@Isi: I've read what you wrote, but as I mentioned, no evidence has been provided to support this thesis so far. What exists are subjective reconstructions that often disagree with each other, even if they come from the same side. That's all. Bye.

I let slip a "as mentioned" for most of you, my apologies. The rush.

Mine was a provocation regarding the topic of "rehearsals," come on, let’s not generalize. The point is that, as mentioned, often in stadiums the charges occur without triggering reasons and towards parts of the public that don’t even know what the armamentarium you refer to is. From here the parallel that should be taken as a provocation, indeed, to make it clear how little it takes to raise objections. No one justifies the events in Genoa, nor specifically the raid in the school; the doubt is raised towards the “coup” theses, suggesting instead that probably the events occurred due to poor organization and exasperation: nonetheless very serious motivations, but different. I think my thoughts are clear now, otherwise nunscio’ ;-)

So, thanks again to everyone, I see there are no particular issues. I had no idea how to review a VG (@UhUh I promise that next time I will add more details) and I'm glad to know what might work. The beer is still up for grabs (@Isi and Carlo: yes, yes I'll pay for it anyway...) Bye!

Ps: the topic "Tv" is also too off-topic and I prefer not to delve into it in this context.

Put like this, I could say that the riot police perform dress rehearsals (almost) every Sunday in stadiums. I don't know if you've ever had the "luck" of being caught in such chaos (I have), but I assure you that, from what I've seen, a large part of the charges are made for fairly trivial reasons. Following this reasoning, one could claim that law enforcement has been staging coup d'état drills in Italian stadiums for at least 40 years... The problem is precisely the "poor management" that our country has of the riot forces, but, as I see it, it's just a lack of organization (and the presence within those forces of restless elements) and not premeditation. This doesn’t take away from the fact that they should be rethought, reorganized, and managed differently. No polemics intended, of course. Bye.

Thanks to all the commenters. Given the late hour (and the energy stolen from me by Carlo and Iside to respond to a question thrown at me on another review ;-) ) I am not clear-headed enough to read all your comments calmly, so I will reply in the morning. Bye!

I’d like to clarify the objections from Isi and Carlo, as I probably didn’t explain myself well (I’ll leave aside the discussion about Israel because it would make the conversation too long and complex, hoping, as usual, to discuss it in more appropriate reviews): I never called Casarini a criminal: I mentioned that a few days before the summit he made those statements (and if I remember correctly with those exact words), broadcasted on all national news, hence my hypothesis that if we take all the "statements of intent" at face value, the path of "broad conspiracy" would seem to be paved: I use "hypothetical" because most of the arguments in this direction only take into account the "statements" from the other side (the law enforcement). Now, I was not in Genoa and I have no reason to doubt your words, but I also have no reason to doubt those of my friends who were there: now if I put all this together and create a nice scheme, I would uncover so many contradictions among them that any chart would collapse. Does this mean you’re lying? No, absolutely not: it means that in such a context there are far too many variables that can distort things and create discord. If this happens among various bells that were nevertheless on the same side (the protesters), just imagine when I compare the steeples from the other side... And while I view your good faith as absolute, I cannot be equally certain about that of certain documentarians who do not have a personal history that is super partes. I do not contest the truth of the beatings, far from it; I contest the allegations of premeditation thrown out without objectively concrete evidence (and so far it does not seem that any has been presented), especially when common sense, which is rarely wrong, leads to accepting the variables I mentioned in my previous post. I hope I’ve clarified things (also because you know that generally on certain discussions we're on the same side). With respect. Mo.

In fact, they should not be taken seriously.