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17 nov 05

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Well, what I wonder is whether it's possible to find some "ground rules" that are absolutely or (at least) mutually agreed upon. As for science, though, let's be calm: the axioms can sometimes be demonstrable based on empirical evidence, which in this case is indeed valid, unlike in the case of art. That if you don't drink you die is not an assumption :)

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17 nov 05

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You're right, Caz: I missed that comment from Enea. Anyway, he's from Palermo :) Jokes aside, I think he meant to say that the best classical artists have a much greater value than the best rock artists. I won't weigh in on this, precisely because, as I said, I'm not able to compare them. That said, I don't want to say that it's not possible to do so (just that I don't know - yet :P - how), just like it's possible to compare Zappa to Robbie Williams.

Pink Floyd Live At Pompeii

17 nov 05

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Ah ok, we're at my first comment then. Thank you for the contribution.

Pink Floyd Live At Pompeii

17 nov 05

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Mr. Green Genes, the answer is obviously NO, but do you want to tell me that your criterion is "who influences the most / who influences the least"? Oh wow. Exhaustive, helpful. I guess 20/30 years haven't passed yet, huh. Bye.

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17 nov 05

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C'mon, what are the points of comparison within pop-rock? And then, are you telling me that you couldn't say that Zappa is better than Williams just because they belong to two different genres? And, I don't think Enea intends to compare two genres as such but always two artists. // Mr. Green, alright, we'll talk about it later. Bye bye.

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17 nov 05

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Here’s Mr. Green Genes, and why do you think you can say that Bon Jovi or Robbie Williams aren’t good music? See, it’s a loop?

Pink Floyd Live At Pompeii

17 nov 05

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Yes, old as the hills :)

Pink Floyd Live At Pompeii

17 nov 05

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My opinion is: I don't know. It's true that in the end "like/dislike" is something each of us decides, and it's an indisputable judgment. However, it's also true that - how can I put it - those who have listened to a lot of music FEEL like saying that Zappa, Waters, or Patton or Carlens are absolutely better than Bon Jovi or Robbie Williams, right? The point is that it's hard to reconcile this (CLEAR) feeling with "de gustibus." And at this point, what would prevent us from comparing artists even across centuries? The problem of an absolute evaluation: given that it can't be based on empirical evidence (otherwise, Britney Spears blah blah blah), it must rely on theoretical criteria. What criteria? Seminality? Clearly, that's not enough. I don't know how to get out of this. No, because I really care about modeling this mental gymnastics, you know? :)