Aquarius27

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Pink Floyd: The Piper at the Gates of Dawn

22 apr 15

I may be insulted for the rating I gave, but for me the record in question doesn't deserve more than three stars... Syd Barrett may have been a genius, for sure, but the true Pink Floyd, the real masterpieces, would come later... That said, the album is more than good, but it doesn’t make me shout miracle, musically speaking...

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Workhorse
22 apr 15

You will surely be insulted, and rightly so.
hjhhjij
22 apr 15

"but the real Pink, the real masterpieces will come later" I'm not insulting, I'm laughing :) In the meantime, I'm trying to figure out what "the real Pink" are. And it's not your judgment that makes me laugh; it's the outbursts, you know, that's different. I hope you don't take it the wrong way.
Appestato mantrico
22 apr 15

from lulz
Aquarius27
22 apr 15

We live in a country where freedom of thought still exists; consequently, what I say may please you, may be right or wrong, and does not necessarily correspond to truth. Therefore, what comes out of your mouth and, in this case, from your keyboard can also please, can be right or wrong... Points of view... Different opinions... Whether you laugh or not doesn’t interest me, and I don’t take offense, far from it... You emphasized my phrase "the true masterpieces will come later"... so, for you, is this "Piper..." superior to "Dark Side," "Animals," or "Wish You Were Here"? Absolutely not, and for me, it’s even inferior to albums like "Atom Heart Mother," "Meddle," and "Ummagumma"... Points of view!!
teenagelobotomy
22 apr 15

3 balls of course not, but on the other hand, those of Syd and Waters/Gilmour are totally opposing worlds. Is it legitimate to prefer the subsequent sound, or do we have to conform in order not to be criticized ever? In these cases, it is always preferable to play it safe and stick to the single thought.
Carlos
22 apr 15

The point is that here the one who plays the relativist, saying that everyone has their own position, their own opinions, etc... is also the only one who has established with an adjective the truth for everyone: the "real pink"! But who are you to say who the real Pink Floyd are?! It would be better if we didn’t fill our mouths with words about the value of opinion only to shoot these maxims!
Carlos
22 apr 15

Assuming it makes sense to talk about "real pinks," by the way!
madcat
22 apr 15

Well, it's also true that they will be "the real pinks" for him, right? It seems obvious to me even though I understand that reading it this way might be irritating. Personally, I also prefer the later Pink Floyd, but of course, that 3 is something you can't stand.
Muffin_Man
22 apr 15

I wanted to comment, but Carlos got to it first.
Danny The Kid
22 apr 15

I don't know this one, but actually Missundaztood still kind of sucks; the ones before (including this The Piper something I presume) are even worse. The real Pink starts with "I'm Not Dead," from there on good albums, maybe not true masterpieces as you call them, but still enjoyable. What do you mean I misunderstood? Well, I'll just let it go now.
Carlos
22 apr 15

I have always placed great value on the HOW, and I believe it says a lot, perhaps everything.
Carlos
22 apr 15

MADCAT: In any case, assuming that you are right (and probably your analysis is spot on), if you write LIKE THAT, you shouldn't be surprised that people respond to you like Work and Hj did. It's a matter of anticipating the consequences of your actions, not opinions or who knows what else!
hjhhjij
22 apr 15

As Carlos says. I'll repeat, your tastes don't make me laugh (and why? Along these lines I'd also marry what Teenage says) what makes me laugh are the outbursts.
hellraiser
22 apr 15

I have many friends, colleagues, cousins who think like you; just last Friday, I was listening to an episode on Radio Capital dedicated to Barrett, and many listeners who called in shared your views. That said, I love this album, one of the giants of '67; I see nothing wrong with your opinion—think that I can't stand Sgt. Pepper. Plus, Barrett's PF is a very different band from the subsequent one in terms of setup, arrangements, style, music... everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Regards.
Aquarius27
22 apr 15

I share Teenagelobotomy's thoughts in the fifth comment... Carlos, I haven't established any truth for anyone; it’s pointless for you and all the other users who are writing and will write to get so worked up... I've simply expressed my judgment that teenege understood perfectly... For me, the album is nice but not a masterpiece as everyone wants to make it out to be... It’s just my opinion, so why the hell are you so upset??? I don't follow the crowd... I mean, if someone tells me "Listen to this album, it's a masterpiece, everyone likes it, etc.", does it have to please me just because everyone says so?? The same goes for "The Wall," which is a masterpiece for almost everyone, but not for me... Or rather, it’s a great album, but not on par with their other albums... Just my personal considerations and tastes; whether you like them or not, I couldn’t care less... Sorry for the language, but sometimes it just needs to be said!!
Aquarius27
22 apr 15

Thank you, Hell, for your intervention... It seems that there are others who think like me..
hjhhjij
22 apr 15

Teenage really shot his usual nonsense as usual (if you conform to the group by saying that The Piper is better than The Dark Side, well, obviously, and the Sun revolves around the Earth which is at the center of the Universe), for example, I understood your opinion. And I repeat for the third time that it’s not your opinion but the way, as Carlos said, it was expressed that made me laugh. Here, no one got heated and I don’t think any insults were thrown. It was just a statement that wanted to be a personal judgment but came out as a shooting comment, indeed. "The Real Pink" then we still have to understand what they are. Do I seem nervous to you? No, because I feel damn calm and I truly have never contested your personal judgment.
hjhhjij
22 apr 15

"It seems that there are other people who think like me." A few million. But not me, for example, and the statements (like the REAL Pink Floyd come after this album) crack me up. I'm a cheerful kind of person.
hjhhjij
22 apr 15

Now you are adjusting your aim, making the judgment absolutely personal as it should be and as you certainly intended to do from the beginning, but trust me, the definition is a shot in the dark.
Aquarius27
22 apr 15

I'm not correcting any shot, because from the beginning, mine was a personal opinion... You don't belong to the category of those who think like me?? Better, because there are more thoughts and more judgments... Then for "real Pinks," I mean those from "Ummagumma" onwards... Because they found their most ideal sound and the one I prefer most... Does that sit well with you or is this also a bold statement??
TSTW
22 apr 15

Let everyone prefer whatever they like, but "the real Pink," "the real masterpieces"... Jesus.
hjhhjij
22 apr 15

"Because they found their most ideal sound." This is an outrageous statement. "The one I prefer the most." This, however, is not. You've practically established the difference yourself. Did they find their ideal sound? But if with the first two albums they invented cosmic psychedelia, countless Germans in the '70s were inspired by them, which devil's ideal sound are you talking about? Also, I repeat for the fourth time, I couldn't care less that you prefer the records from the '70s; I mean, that's perfectly fine, I won't even argue about it. And I’ll reiterate that the way you wrote this definition seems like a hyperbolic claim. I quote TSTW, who in one line has clarified perfectly what I’m trying to say in 20.
tia
22 apr 15

OOOOO
Muffin_Man
22 apr 15

their ideal sound...ahahahahaha.........ahahaha haha.........their ideal sound...ahahahahaha.........ahahaha haha.........
nes
22 apr 15

By "the more ideal sound to what I prefer," he means that the sound of the PF has become standardized since Ummagumma; they used to make psychedelic rock, and then they started to make Pink Floyd. Oh, maybe I'm wrong and Aquarius will come to tell me that I haven't understood a damn thing. If I've understood correctly, I would point out that the concept expressed was absolutely obvious, and all of you are almost acting like typical teens (which, in fact, here said something right, and I also understand that as compensation, you put yourselves in the position of invoking slaps).

A clarification to Aquarius instead: "I don't follow the crowd... I mean, if someone tells me, 'Listen to this album, it's a masterpiece, everyone loves it, etc.' 'Well done, don't follow the crowd. Leave the PF alone; whether or not you make your rounds on Deb to talk about it, our musical culture remains the same, and all you get are discussions about the sex of angels. Talk to us about something new, or at least something that's less than forty-five years old and has a billion pages of paper and virtual content behind it. No offense to anyone, not even teens. Just for this time, ça va sans dire.
Carlos
22 apr 15

AQUARIUS: You didn't respond AT ALL to what I wrote. The OBJECT of my critique is very clear and has nothing to do with what you, individually, think or don’t think about Pink Floyd. You expressed an opinion (very questionable) as if it were a universal maxim, and that’s a fact. Someone replied in kind (but without insulting you) and you pulled out that everyone has their own opinion (a valid point), but it’s a pity that in your definition, you used an attitude that is not at all that of someone expressing their personal opinion on a matter. These are FACTS. So you shouldn't be surprised, as you were, if someone responds to you like Work and Hj. I listed the facts and repeated what I already wrote to you. If you now respond with something that still has nothing to do with it, it means you're either not paying attention or purposely misinterpreting my words. Period and stop.
Carlos
22 apr 15

AN attitude WITHOUT APOSTROPHE, forgive me*
Carlos
22 apr 15

To summarize, TSTW made the best comment on the page in my opinion: "Everyone can prefer what they want, but 'the real Pink,' 'the real masterpieces'... Jesus." That's what I wanted to say with the thousand words I used. If you don't understand this, you have problems.
hjhhjij
22 apr 15

"First they played psychedelic rock, then they started doing Pink Floyd." They were doing "Pink Floyd" even before since "that" psychedelic rock was not played like they did in 1967, or by very few. And there are significant differences in the "Pink Floyd" sound from Atom to Wish You. Furthermore, I believe "ideal sound" means "the best," "the most suitable," "what made them take a leap in quality." And why should the sound of Animals be "ideal" compared to that of A Saucerful? Setting aside personal tastes, I mean.
nes
22 apr 15

"They were doing 'The Pink Floyd' even before" it seems evident to me that Ummagumma is the album that marks the transition to a certain kind of sound. Maybe it's that I know Pink Floyd only vaguely because I don't really care about them or almost. "That" psychedelic rock was not played by anyone like them in 1967." Yes, but then they no longer played that psychedelic rock either, or at least from Ummagumma onwards, the PF's sound is unmistakable, the sound of Piper was undoubtedly different. "And why should the sound of Animals be "ideal" compared to that of A Saucerful? Personal tastes aside, I mean." Because from Dark Side to Division, etc., they sound like Ummagumma. And when one talks about Pink Floyd in general, they don't refer to Piper. If to talk about Pink Floyd in general you have the sound of Piper in mind, you’re a fool. A serious fool. Why? Well, I don’t know the Pink Floyd well, but I have ears. You do too. Use them.
Fantaman
22 apr 15

Aside from Hj, who as usual proves to be a pig rolling in its own filth, I find this to be an interesting discussion. The Pink Floyd of Barrett, while seminal, will never be remembered by the masses as the "real" Pink Floyd. In this, user Aquarius27 is right; I don't think there’s any need to debate it further. The rest falls into personal taste, which is legitimate, although, given some of the tastes of certain people here ("Blur better than the Beatles," I believe madcat said), perhaps it would be wise to implement a bit of a gatekeeping. I would propose an entrance test to assess the background knowledge of new users.
Workhorse
22 apr 15

Come on, I'm curious, how would you do this test?
hjhhjij
22 apr 15

Fantaman, either get a life or stop spewing the outrageous nonsense you throw around without the fake to cover your ass, right? Either way, you’re still a poor fool, but at least you’d be more honest. Poor fool.
hjhhjij
22 apr 15

From Ummagumma to The Dark Side there are still transitions, that's all. And then "because from dark side to division etc. they sound like umma" you tell me to use my ears? Nes if you know things by your ass and you even admit it, don't talk about it, Christ.
hjhhjij
22 apr 15

"Come on, I'm curious, how would you take this test?" Workhorse, why do I have the impression that Fantaman is becoming a bit of a laughing stock? Like probably his other identity before him?
Muffin_Man
22 apr 15

What the hell are you blabbering about... he wrote a bunch of nonsense. It would have been enough to say, I prefer the sound and compositions of the 2nd (or the 3rd, or whatever) period of PF, and the discussion would have been more "wise" and no one would have had anything to say (I think). But if you say the "true PF," then take responsibility for the crap you’re saying.
nes
22 apr 15

"From Ummagumma to The Dark Side there are still transitions, that's all. If you know things from your ass and you admit it, don't talk about it, Christ. You either don’t want to understand or you’re an idiot, I can’t do anything about it. And moderate your language: you are the fart of a gnat and, as I've been telling you for years, I put up with you out of pity."
Workhorse
22 apr 15

There are some stratospheric pretty boys in bulk here; it feels like being on Uomini&Donne. I don’t think that when a group changes genre you can say "these are the real ones, these are the fakes," even if they used to suck or later start to suck big time (not the case with the PFs, mind you). The most you can say that when they release an album of recycled scraps (and that’s the case with the PFs, though you may or may not like the album). That said, what the hell do you have to argue about? Aquarius may have expressed himself crudely (I didn’t want him to be actually insulted; otherwise, I would have kicked off the festivities), but it doesn’t seem appropriate to throw shit at each other like monkeys. Maybe Fantaman deserves a little poop for that masses talk; he wouldn’t pass the entrance tests that he himself would want to implement.
Workhorse
22 apr 15

"It's not that when a group changes gender YOU CAN SAY" I meant to say, of course.
madcat
22 apr 15

Yes, that's right! The entrance test! We'll include the question: "Fantaman is the fake of which character?", but given the extreme difficulty of the question, no one would guess it; it would be too complex and obscure.
Fantaman
22 apr 15

Well, it's been the indie refrain (edit - or rather indie-Italian, because abroad the situation is quite different, just to be clear) for ages that the Floyd of Syd Barrett are the only ones that matter. Come on, this isn't exactly news; I've been going crazy about it for years.
Fantaman
22 apr 15

I honestly wonder how the hell one can love Barrett more than any other Floyd. To be fair, love cannot be commanded, but I could understand a love for Barrett due to his solo albums more than a love stemming from Pipers..., where you can still hear a strong tribute to the Beatles on one hand, while on the other the original ideas that the band had will be more fully realized in A Saucerful of Secrets.
Workhorse
22 apr 15

What can you do, this is Italy! Listen to me, years of Berlusconi/communism/bleeding heart liberalism have made us this way, while abroad, my dear lady, that’s where they do things the way they should! My husband spent ten years as a metalworker in Germany and there they had things that here, you wouldn't even dare to think about.
hjhhjij
22 apr 15

User Rolando would say "crazy laughter" at this point and would also be right.
EverardBereguad
22 apr 15

you see, and you are mad!
CristianoDA
22 apr 15

For me, the true Pink Floyd are those long suites they performed at concerts, expansions and modifications in the flow of current music. The other Pink Floyd, the studio ones, were too manipulative, too much pressure; they unleashed themselves in concerts, giving space to their imagination... because being completely free and at the same time completely dominated by the majors is the eternal paradox of the musician.
templare
22 apr 15

I don't insult anyone. Far from it. I respect your ideas. However, the album in question is nothing short of essential. Anyway, tastes are tastes.
chiccotana
22 apr 15

In my opinion, you are mistaken in wanting to compare such different works. Moreover, this album is a masterpiece when placed in its own context. This applies to everything; you can't compare AOR rock, progressive, arena-sized tracks like Wish You Were Here or Dark Side with the visionary psychedelia of the early albums, and you also have to consider the current musical context.
chiccotana
22 apr 15

There is one thing that CristianoDA rightly points out, namely that the Floyd of the early albums were hindered by terrible production choices (I've already expressed my disdain elsewhere for that bastard Norman Smith). However, this ultimately adds even more value to the debut of PF; if it's wonderful as it is, just imagine what it could have been without the cuts and censorship.
ZannaB
23 apr 15

What??? 50 comments and not even one from me? Oh no, I need to get notifications for what's happening here, God forbid that Fantaman comes back with his entrance test proposal and I miss it...
ZannaB
23 apr 15

And the real (indeed, very real!) Pink Floyd are the ones from A Momentary Lapse Of Reason. Take that!
Danny The Kid
23 apr 15

Wow, this entrance test thing completely slipped my mind, and it's an idea that unnerves and terrifies me a lot: I've written over two hundred reviews without ever having listened to a single Pink Floyd album (and not just theirs) in my life. If this proposal were to pass, I would be declared illegal, banned, and my reviews would be erased with a damnatio memoriae. I'm just like, bauraaaahhhh!
chiccotana
23 apr 15

This entrance test thing is nonsense, plain and simple; it shouldn't be taken seriously (and I don't think it was proposed seriously). But dear Aquarius, why instead of splitting the Pink Floyd eras and trying to assign grades, don't you appreciate the versatility of a band that has managed to grow and create masterpieces for every season and every style? The "historical" mistake lies in not wanting to shout miracle, I believe. It's exactly the opposite: Astronomy Domine and Interstellar Overdrive are a miracle in 1967, more than Shine On You Crazy Diamond is in '75, after tons of rock and prog and after Dark Side Of The Moon. This does not take away from the fact that one may appeal to some more than others, but the historical value of certain original ideas and recordings cannot be denied.
ZannaB
23 apr 15

No but excuse me, what made you think that I (and also Danny) am taking seriously the latest bullshit from a fake (which could very well be yours)?
nes
23 apr 15

I’m sorry to play the unsolicited lawyer of Aquarius, but the page is getting thick and tasty. Chicco, how dare you? "Why instead of splitting the Pink Floydian periods and trying to give ratings, don’t you appreciate the versatility of a band that has managed to grow and deliver masterpieces for every season and every style?" Because everyone has their own tastes, and when one listens to Duran Duran, they take others’ tastes as sacrosanct. Even if they’ve been playing for 50 years with a score in hand. I repeat: DURAN DURAN!
chiccotana
23 apr 15

Still with this story...? And who makes you think I was responding to you, Zanna?
nes
23 apr 15

No, but stay on it: THE DURAN DURAN!!!
chiccotana
23 apr 15

Yes, you’re earning the fuck you, you know that?
ZannaB
23 apr 15

It makes me think that my comment was precisely about the infamous (and much-anticipated) entrance exam. Any other questions?
chiccotana
23 apr 15

But who's paying attention to you, Zanna? I'm not thinking about you... quite the opposite, actually. You seem to exist only to ponder what I write. If you go read, the entrance test proposed has been commented on by many others before you, for example by Hj and madcat in comments 35 and 40. You could try to be less solipsistic and more urbane, Zanna, I'm sure of it.
ZannaB
23 apr 15

"This whole entrance exam thing is bullshit, period, it shouldn't be taken seriously." And you could try to understand when people are joking lightly. Or maybe when they were handing out a sense of humor, you were busy reading the sheet music (by hand)?
chiccotana
23 apr 15

What's wrong, are you pissed off for not being able to talk about music like a damn dog?
ZannaB
23 apr 15

No, it annoys me that I speak and you don't understand.
nes
23 apr 15

Chicco, you deserve the fuck you just got. You led us to believe you had some kind of appropriate judgment from a good musical background. Instead, you're just someone who has read here and there but can't tell shit from chocolate sorbet (which may taste bad, but at least doesn't hurt).
I believe Aquarius (or whoever) is free to prefer one Pink Floyd album over another without a Duran Duran supporter nitpicking at him. If he had come to say that Lady Gaga is better than Pink Floyd, you would have had every right to say what you wanted, but since we're just talking about tastes, and not good taste, you, with your Duran Duran, clash. And it clashes quite a bit.
nes
23 apr 15

"talking about music like a damn dog?" we "duran duran," you’re exaggerating…
ZannaB
23 apr 15

But what do Duran Duran have to do with it?
chiccotana
23 apr 15

They are involved because nes is not able to talk about Capossela, and so he wanders off to other posts, other written things, about the crap of blur and the fact that I have supported and defended that even Duran Duran are better than blur. I even went further, nes, get updated: I would buy Raffaella Carrà’s records before those of blur. As for Duran Duran, how that group of half-idiots (especially the singer) has inexplicably been able to produce a wonderful album like Rio is a mystery, but it’s a fact recognized by the music critics of the whole world and now well-established. The masterpiece of blur, on the other hand, lies in those years when they got the hell out of the way. After that, whenever you want to talk about Duran Duran, be my guest: songs and albums at hand, perhaps, because saying nonsense is something anyone can do.
ZannaB
23 apr 15

But weren't we talking about Pinc Floi and entrance tests here?
extro91
23 apr 15

Goldfiga gets banned, but it seems like the admins have a thing for old pain-in-the-asses, what’s up with that?! He’s been trolling for a week and no one says a damn thing. I’ve never participated in any debate with him and I don't intend to start now, but I just want to point out that practices like this used to get dealt with in 3 days, especially when there were cases of direct insults (which there have been, by the way). And I don’t want to start any discussion, especially not with you, Chicco. I'm just fed up with seeing you latch on like a leech to every comment from someone you can’t stand, not to mention when you spout your bullshit just to attract flies to the shit.
Aquarius27
23 apr 15

I’m away for half a day and find the site clogged with notifications... Great... I read the remaining messages, but it’s practically impossible to respond to everyone... I thank "nes" for what he wrote... Then I saw that other users started a "debate" because of me and I apologize... The site should introduce music, encourage polite discussion, and above all, a user should respect the definitions and messages of other users, whatever that definition might be... For many of you, what I wrote is nonsense, okay I accept it all, but it remains my opinion... I tried to explain what I meant by "True Pink," and again for you it was nonsense... Here you all act like "music experts," but I don’t consider myself an expert; in fact, I’m just a poor guy who, in a time of crisis like this, finds refuge in music to forget everything, and loves Pink Floyd, because perhaps that went unnoticed... I LOVE PINK FLOYD, but I prefer them in the post-Barrett period; is that a crime??? I don’t think so... If a friend asked me to recommend a Floyd album to start with, I would say "Wish" or "Dark Side," certainly not "Piper"... is that a crime?? I really don’t think so... That said, greetings to everyone...
extro91
23 apr 15

Aquarius: I am also Carlos, and I have already said and repeated everything I wanted to tell you. Obviously, you don't want to understand what I wrote to you. Goodbye.
nes
23 apr 15

"I even raised the stakes, " no you didn't raise the stakes: the duran duran are worse than Carrà, wash your ears, for fuck's sake! "unexplainably able to produce a great album like Rio" but aren't you just a fan of Simon in disguise? "acknowledged by the music critics around the world" the wrong half. I'll say it again for the umpteenth time: everyone has their weaknesses. don't judge those of others if yours are duran duran. "songs and albums at hand, maybe, because anyone can talk crap." I don't even want to talk about duran duran, I want to counter your bullshit.
nes
23 apr 15

and above all: duran duran ARE bullshit.
Aquarius27
23 apr 15

Goodbye Carlos and Extra... Honestly, I won't miss you.... Just kidding, of course...
Danny The Kid
23 apr 15

Simon LeBon has one of the most horrible and annoying voices ever, while the blondie from Blur is at least bearable...
nes
23 apr 15

but above all, Vinicio, what the hell does it have to do with it.
ZannaB
23 apr 15

Here, I didn't understand that either...
ZannaB
23 apr 15

But above all, when do we have to take this test?
nes
23 apr 15

I think it's in September. Which is a drag, I was hoping to have a decent summer finally and instead I have to spend it with the Alfa Test books. Damn.
nes
23 apr 15

However, it's likely that three or four days before, the questions will be available online. If we organize ourselves, I think we can all pass it together.
Danny The Kid
23 apr 15

NOW! I'm asking the questions because that's how it seems to me. First question: the complete tracklist (instrumental interludes included) of "My Heart Of Stone" by Peter Heppner!
rolando303
23 apr 15

But blast some healthy DEVO at full volume and hell yeah!!!!1
ZannaB
23 apr 15

But do you think at Radio Elettra school there are courses for passing the DeTest? Because I don't feel ready at all...
ZannaB
23 apr 15

And then I miss the sheet music (at hand), can they provide it to me?
Workhorse
23 apr 15

1. Beatles or Rolling Stones? 2. Oasis or Blur? 3. Pitchfork or Scaruffi? 4. Barrett or Gilmour? 5. Dream Theater or Radiohead?
Danny The Kid
23 apr 15

1-step 2-Blur 3-fuck you 4-step 5-Driiiim Thhhhiatahhhh
ZannaB
23 apr 15

You wrote one H less in Thhhhiatahhhhh, failed!
Danny The Kid
23 apr 15

1. Rhapsody or Stratovarius? 2. BUT Batio or Kurt Cobain? 3. Luzzatto Fegiz or Mollica? 4. Bronski Beat or Lynyrd Skynyrd? 5. Romina Power or Loredana Lecciso?
hjhhjij
23 apr 15

1 Rolling Stones 2 Duran Duran 3 OndaRock 4 Barlmour 5 Radiohead covering the Drim Fiata. Let's move on to test 2: 1 I don’t know it 2 Cobain 3 Donald Duck 4 Lynyrd Skynyrd 5 Romina Power, she was hotter when she was younger in my opinion.
hjhhjij
23 apr 15

But when do the real questions arrive? And the results?
ZannaB
23 apr 15

The test will actually consist of just one question: H or J?
extro91
23 apr 15

I'm sorry, but it seems that your message is incomplete. Please provide the full text you'd like me to translate.
hjhhjij
23 apr 15

Ah, it's an open-ended question then, with the classic "explain why" at the end. Assholes.
ZannaB
23 apr 15

And now Extro will explain to us why J.
extro91
23 apr 15

Just because the "i" was not included
ZannaB
23 apr 15

And the answer is correct! Extro is allowed at the Debasio and can bring a friend of his choice between ZannaB or Cicciolina!
extro91
23 apr 15

Port Zanna. I keep Cicciolina in my room.
Workhorse
23 apr 15

99
Workhorse
23 apr 15

And here is the quota 100!
TSTW
23 apr 15

You are a bunch of idiots.
ZannaB
23 apr 15

In the sense of sexually very endowed men?
Aquarius27
23 apr 15

But can't you have these discussions somewhere else??? I'm tired of reading your notifications every minute....
hjhhjij
23 apr 15

Eh, it’s DeBaser getting us used to it. In fact, now they could comment more just to send you more notifications, these buzzurroni.
Aquarius27
23 apr 15

I had no doubts about this...
ZannaB
23 apr 15

Have you ever noticed that link that says "mark as read"?
Appestato mantrico
29 apr 15

Next time I’ll try commenting in a way that’s not third-party, so I can avoid a million notifications of damn thief. This latest one is my little, cruelest revenge. uaz uaz.
ZannaB
29 apr 15

Infected, you’re a veteran; you should smell the bullshit from a mile away with all those thousands of comments...
Appestato mantrico
30 apr 15

That's exactly why I only left a comment young "for lulz," without thinking first about the consequences of such an action.

CD Audio I have it ★★★★★

Pink Floyd: Wish You Were Here

29 jan 15

For me, their greatest masterpiece, more than "The Wall," more than "Dark Side".... The title track, oh my god, gives me goosebumps every time I listen to it!!!

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hellraiser
29 jan 15

I don't know if it's their best, but it's certainly an excellent album, the latest work from a united group.
east of eden80
29 jan 15

The Wall is not a masterpiece, indeed, but this one is... Wright proved to be impeccable! Great keyboardist, great album. Historic!

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Pink Floyd: A Saucerful of Secrets

23 apr 15

I want to stir up more "controversies" after yesterday's.... I far prefer this to "The Piper....", because for me this is superior to the first one.... On my mark, unleash hell :D :D....

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hjhhjij
23 apr 15

No, it's already out of gas. An immense record anyway for my tastes. Just like the first one.
hjhhjij
23 apr 15

the gasoline, not "to the."
Aquarius27
23 apr 15

noooo hjhhjij.... I need you to be in shape... Fill up the gas and go! :)
RIBALDO
23 apr 15

aquarium don't be a coward... many prefer the second over the first, myself included...
chiccotana
23 apr 15

Here Gilmour commands over Barrett, the poor Syd is past his prime and does little. However, not all the ideas are exploited to the fullest; Set The Controls is weak in this studio version (all subsequent live performances will be magnificent and majestic), and in other songs various suggestions are cut, always due to idiotic production. I find the two albums quite complementary; here Wright starts to come into his own, and the form of the psychedelic little song from the early singles and The Gnome, for example, begins to change.
Workhorse
23 apr 15

It used to be my favorite, but I abused it so much that I really listen to it rarely now.
Muffin_Man
23 apr 15

you are not alone, so here are the real PF already...
Aquarius27
23 apr 15

But what a slacker Riba?? Muffin, there's no point in trying to be charming with the story of the "Real Pinks"...
Muffin_Man
23 apr 15

Acquasplash, you're right, it's just that before I wasn't the real Muff.
Aquarius27
23 apr 15

"Acquasplash" is supposed to make me laugh??
Muffin_Man
23 apr 15

Are you asking me?
hjhhjij
23 apr 15

Watch out, Muffin is a DeBaserian from the Old Republic, much fiercer than us. He'll eat you and spit you out in one bite. What we really need is a good bloodbath like in the old days.
RIBALDO
23 apr 15

And you, hjhj, who are you... the young lady walking around the ring holding up the sign with the round number?
tia
23 apr 15

I still prefer the first one!
hjhhjij
23 apr 15

Nooo, I'm not that cool.
ZannaB
24 apr 15

Sure that you're a repeat offender, huh...
ZannaB
24 apr 15

AccaGei in a bikini and high heels strutting on a ring. What a terrible scene, Riba...
hjhhjij
24 apr 15

Have patience, but it's you who's imagining these scenes. Anyway, yes, it was pretty awful for me too.
RIBALDO
24 apr 15

but hey this is about the debaser ahahahah
hjhhjij
24 apr 15

Oh at least I'm a hot chick, you're an idiot, I've got more luck than you. Maybe.
ZannaB
24 apr 15

It's not me who wants to imagine them; it's Ribaldo who suggests it with what he writes. In fact, I was talking to him (which can be deduced from the fact that he wrote Riba at the end of my comment). If you have inferiority complexes because you look awful in a bikini, that's your problem...
hjhhjij
24 apr 15

No, it's not me who has the complexes; it's you who's a voyeur.
RIBALDO
24 apr 15

Am I a fool? Hi, you're the dumbest of all, with the added bonus of feeling clever... you're a caricature (of shit), Debaser's sidekick, the bloody lackey AHAHAHAH! Come on, go tell fake to chiccotana, you stupid AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
hjhhjij
24 apr 15

"Am I an idiot?" Yes, and almost everyone here has told you that, even though you pretend otherwise and laugh behind my back :) Aside from that, I'm just goofing around, why do you always have to spontaneously play the fool?
ZannaB
24 apr 15

How lovely are dear Hj and Riba, competing to see who is the more foolish. And I think I may have even instigated them... Can I join the competition too? Riba always says I have the skills to win!
hjhhjij
24 apr 15

You have them, you have them, or you wouldn’t be here now :D But I want the top step of the podium. Sure, beating Ribaldo is tough, but there's always corruption...
hellraiser
24 apr 15

Few know that Hj is actually Monica Bellucci; I found out some time ago. Then the real Floyd starts with The Endless River, no bullshit, it was just a warm-up before.
Aquarius27
24 apr 15

Great hell... The Endless river cannot be beaten :D
hjhhjij
24 apr 15

Sure you're good at keeping a secret, huh hell.

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Rainbow: Rising

9 apr 15

Can you write a masterpiece with just 6 pieces??? Well, listen to "Rising" (come on, you've all already listened to it) and then we can talk about it... "Stargazer" reaches incredible heights, one of the most beautiful songs ever!! p.s. it seems that the band's reunion is near, with Turner on vocals...

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hjhhjij
9 apr 15

If that’s the case, you can write a masterpiece with just two pieces :) Great album anyway, even for someone who doesn't love the genre like me.
hellraiser
9 apr 15

Turner, the domesticated little dog of Blackmore..meh.. the real Rainbows are these, 75-78, everything else is just decent. This is a fantastic album.
templare
9 apr 15

Wonderful album. Reunion? I really hope not. It would be a pathetic operation, among many others.
tonysoprano
3 may 16

One of the best hard and heavy albums of all time. I completely agree with Aquarius.

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Rainbow: Long Live Rock 'n' Roll

29 aug 15

A 4.5 for me, which I happily round up to 5... Last album with the immense Ronnie James Dio on vocals, that's enough for me to listen to the record!

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Dragonstar
29 aug 15

This is beautiful, but I prefer the previous Rising.
hellraiser
29 aug 15

Almost a masterpiece, almost on par with Rising. What a band this is, exceptional. And Blackmore also wanted the great and beloved Joe Vescovi as the keyboardist, the mind behind The Trip...

CD Audio I have it ★★★★★

Rory Gallagher: Deuce

16 apr 18

One day God invented the guitar, gave it to Rory Gallagher, and said: "Go teach it to the world"!

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hjhhjij
16 apr 18

So those who played the guitar before all had it taken away by God? :D
masturbatio
16 apr 18

I knew that Rory Gallagher invented God and turned Him into a guitar.
IlConte
16 apr 18

Rest in peace, noble boy who gave so much to rock, playing the blues when hardly anyone cared anymore. It was wonderful to toast with you at the corner of Temple Bar dedicated to you. Your live performance is among the most beautiful ever. Class, talent, and so, so much soul. You certainly weren't known for being particularly friendly, but I couldn't care less about that (justly, because I personally never dealt with it), and it's understandable given that at twenty your "friends" had really screwed you over. Thank you for the indelible things you left for our souls.
Aquarius27
16 apr 18

@[hjhhjij] is sniffing around, and he didn't notice anything XD...
hjhhjij
16 apr 18

I always say it, he’s an idiot.
pier_paolo_farina
18 apr 18

A problematic character, introverted and religiously devoted to his music, clinging to it (and to the bottle...) like an emigrant to what remains of the dinghy in the middle of the Mediterranean. In my opinion, an unconfessed homosexual (who cares, really, it's his business). A pure, grumpy, and stubborn great talent. He "entered" with his soul into every note he played because that was his reason for living; the blues was the only music suitable to support and ease his woes. It is a duty for me to systematically revisit, at least once a year, the six or seven albums of his that I own.

CD Audio I have it ★★★★★

Scorpions: Taken by Force

30 jan 15

A record of infinite beauty... Last studio album with Roth on guitar... Tracks like "We'll Burn the Sky" and especially "The Sails of Charon" make you wish they would never end!! Deadly and amazing riffs... A masterpiece!

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RIBALDO
30 jan 15

The latest release from the Scorpions is about to come out or has already been released.
Aquarius27
30 jan 15

end of February

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Scorpions: Virgin Killer

31 mar 17

"Cause he's a Virgin Killer!"

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Scorpions: Love at First Sting

19 apr 15

A gem of Heavy Metal... With an album that includes tracks like "Rock You Like a Hurricane" (with that extraordinary riff), and "Still Loving You" (one of the most beautiful ballads ever), you can't give less than 5... But the record stays at a high level throughout its entirety...

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perfect element
19 aug 16

It's not heavy metal.

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Scorpions: Blackout

24 feb 16

The intro of "No One Like You" is more than enough...

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perfect element
24 feb 16

Surely, their best album.
hellraiser
27 feb 16

I adore all their albums from Lonesome Crow to Lovedrive; here we are already in the early '80s where I prefer them less. However, I really save this one and it's a great one, for me their last album that truly deserves it. Smoke, then, I think is the best hard-rock ballad ever or almost...
Aquarius27
27 feb 16

Lonesome and Fly are the most experimental of the band (First period), then once they found their way they just made great albums, meaning whichever one you pick, you can't go wrong (like I go crazy for Taken)... But I don’t get Hell, don’t you appreciate "Love"? Okay, they were already in a more melodic hard/heavy phase at that time, but I don’t believe you can't appreciate an album like that! For "Smoke" I partly agree with you, I mean, it's a great ballad, but not the best...
hellraiser
27 feb 16

Love at First Sting has never appealed to me, too 80s in sound. Better before...
hellraiser
27 feb 16

...too 80s...
perfect element
27 feb 16

What does "too '80s" mean? The '80s produced great albums, as well as some masterpieces, just look at 'Operation: Mindcrime' and 'Rage for Order'. Enough with this nonsense about plastic '80s, it’s completely false.
Aquarius27
27 feb 16

I believe Hell means that the album sounds different, meaning it doesn’t resemble the Scorpions of "Virgin Killer" or "Taken by Force," just to name a couple...
perfect element
27 feb 16

It clearly sounds different without Uli Jon Roth.
hellraiser
27 feb 16

I just wanted to say that their '80s tracks have never really blown me away, at least since Blackout. I find them quite repetitive, the usual Rudolf riff, the usual stuff... they were much better in the '70s, a different sound, that's all. I have nothing against the '80s; I love Maiden, Metallica, Guns, Priest... but when it comes to the Scorpions, I prefer the period with Roth or Michael, more diversity in the songs. For example, I absolutely adore the live album Tokio Tales, while World Wide Live does nothing for me. It's just a matter of personal taste, of course.

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Scorpions: In Trance

31 aug 15

One of the best albums by the Scorpions, without a shadow of a doubt. The title track is of unique beauty...

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Screaming Trees: Sweet Oblivion

18 jan 16

The extraordinary thing about the "Screaming Trees" is that they've made so many fantastic albums that every fan has their favorite record... Some prefer "Buzz Factory," some "Invisible Lantern," some "Uncle Anesthesia" or "Dust," and some, like me, prefer "Sweet Oblivion." A perfect album, where by the third track you've already come in your pants! "Shadow Of The Season," "Nearly Lost You," and "Dollar Bill" drive you mad, and thankfully the album doesn't stop at the third track! Immense!

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Hellring
19 jan 16

I agree with you, this is the best. The first 4 songs: Shadow of the season, Nearly lost you, Dollar bill (I cry every time), More or less... well, these alone would have been enough...
ZannaB
19 jan 16

"... by the third track, you came in your pants."
And just think, my favorite is the fourth!
Aquarius27
19 jan 16

Also "More Or Less" Zanna, without a doubt... I repeat their definitive album, for me!

CD Audio I have it ★★★★★

Screaming Trees: Buzz Factory

8 apr 16

A word often misused in the world of music is "masterpiece." Sometimes that term is used correctly, sometimes not, and in this case, perhaps it doesn't do justice enough. Epoch-making Screaming!

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De...Marga...
9 apr 16

It's strange that SilasLang hasn't stopped by to comment yet; I'll just say that it's one of the best albums by the Alberi Urlanti.

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Screaming Trees: Invisible Lantern

22 jun 16

The album of ultimate consecration that kicked off an incredible series of records... Memorable "Grey Diamond Desert," exceptional the title track and then "Direction Of The Sun," "She Knows," "Ivy"... What else to add?? (4.5)

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Skid Row: Subhuman Race

10 aug 16

An album that can be considered their "Motley Crue" or "Native Tongue"! It wasn't very well received by fans, perhaps because of its "harshness," but today I believe everyone has reassessed it. A perfect mix of Hard Rock and Heavy Metal with devastating tracks (My Enemy, Face Against My Soul, Beat Yourself Blind...) and perfectly executed ballads (Breakin Down, Into Another...). Unfortunately, it was the last album with Sebastian Bach on vocals...

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Skid Row: Slave to the Grind

4 sep 15

One of the best albums of the 90s and of Rock (in this case Metal) in general. "Monkey Business," the title track, "The Threat," "In a Darkened Room," "Psycho Love," and all the other tracks deserve a more detailed description, but for me, the peak of the album is reached with two ballads... The immense "Quicksand Jesus" (just the title hypnotizes you) and the extraordinary "Wasted Time" (with a Sebastian Bach at his best)... An album to listen to and re-listen!

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Skid Row: Skid Row

2 apr 15

Starting off with an album like this is no small feat... Three songs, in particular, deserve to be mentioned... "Youth gone wild"... "I remember you"... and that immense masterpiece "18 and Life"...

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Soundgarden: Ultramega OK

1 sep 15

Overall a good album, but not entirely exceptional, for me obviously (and let's always emphasize the "for ME" to avoid insults and similar things)!

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Dragonstar
1 sep 15

If you had said it on "Superknow," then you would have received some insults! :) Joking aside, good definition: everyone can say what they think!
che!?
1 sep 15

if you feel = ) reads Cornell

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Soundgarden: Superunknown

10 mar 16

Slightly inferior to "Badmotorfinger" (but just by a hair) in my humble opinion... Tracks like "Fell on Black Days" (my absolute favorite by the band), "The Day I Tried to Live", "Limo Wreck" (I mean, Cornell goes wild in this one), "Mailman" and all the others like the underrated (by some) "Black Hole Sun" make this album a masterpiece of the 90s (and beyond)...

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Soundgarden: Badmotorfinger

18 apr 15

In my opinion, the best album by the band... "Rusty Cage," "Jesus Christ Pose," and my favorite from the album "Room A Thousand Years Wide," just to name a few... What an album, guys!!!

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Fantaman
18 apr 15

useless, terribly derivative. Nothing to do with True Rock
Workhorse
19 apr 15

Hello fantasy, my little rascal

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Soundgarden: Louder Than Love

18 may 17

From today, I will listen to you with a hint of sadness...

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Hank Monk
19 may 17

well... but how could this happen? :(
Aquarius27
19 may 17

Unfortunately, only he knows...

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Temple of the Dog: Temple of the Dog

21 jan 15

A record written with the heart!! A beautiful album, with a Cornell who, in my opinion, will never reach the heights touched in this record (not even in Soundgarden)... Say hi to heaven!!!

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De...Marga...
21 jan 15

An album dedicated to the dramatic end of a friend; and one of the most beautiful pages of the entire Seattle scene of the nineties. Chris's vocal performance in the opening track reaches heights that are both dramatically intense in terms of emotional tension and enormous and spectacular from an auditory perspective.
hellraiser
21 jan 15

This is a great album, one of the best of the nineties...

CD Audio I have it ★★★★★

The Allman Brothers Band: Eat a Peach

12 jan 16

From orgasm!

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The Allman Brothers Band: The Allman Brothers Band

24 may 15

Pure bliss....

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hellraiser
24 may 15

Legendary and essential album because it kicks off the entire Southern rock genre.
Aquarius27
24 may 15

I fully agree...

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The Allman Brothers Band: Idlewild South

24 jun 15

Second album, and second masterpiece... No more words needed!!

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The Allman Brothers Band: Brothers and Sisters

14 jun 16

First full album without that monster Duane, but yet another masterpiece! Not even the loss of that six-string genius stopped the Allman Brothers... Among the best albums of the "Southern" scene of all time!

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The Allman Brothers Band: Seven Turns

14 jun 16

The hidden masterpiece of their discography...

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The Darkness: Last of Our Kind

6 feb 16

For me, their best album! "Barbarian" with that stone-breaking riff... "Open Fire" is a track to blast in the car and hit the gas pedal... And then there's the title track, "Mudslide," and the others... I repeat, their most successful album! (4.5)

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The Darkness: Permission to Land

6 feb 16

Very entertaining album from the first to the last track. Personally, I didn't find any filler throughout (of course, everyone has their own opinion)... However, a 5 seemed excessive to me. A 4 and that’s it!

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The Doors: Waiting for the Sun

31 jan 16

Good, but not entirely exceptional.

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The Doors: The Doors

22 may 15

This is the end, beautiful friend
This is the end, my only friend, the end
Of our elaborate plans, the end
Of everything that stands, the end
No safety or surprise, the end
I'll never look into your eyes
Again

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east of eden80
22 may 15

This is an album as dark as it is sunny, now it’s being called a classic... but what fascinated me most about the Doors is (apart from the story, which was a film in every sense) their foundational culture... Blake, Nietzsche, Huxley, Greek tragedies, the brilliant theatricality of Morrison, singer/poet, concerts as rituals, ceremonies, masses, that sense of sadness that permeates both the lyrics and the music; their brotherhood, fiercely protected by Morrison... the beach house overlooking the Pacific... it comes naturally to me that aside from the (technical) monstrosity of the four, they were a perfect and fundamental group for the music to come.
east of eden80
22 may 15

I have so many things to say... because they are a group I could talk about for centuries and centuries, and especially listen to their entire discography... right now I feel like mentioning Indian Summer from Morrison Hotel, what can I say... or Queen of the Highway... so many memories indeed... I've known them for 21 years... and I don't know what I would give to attend one of their concerts with Jim... maybe even in a dream!
Aquarius27
22 may 15

I quote the last sentence :)
east of eden80
22 may 15

In a dream? Maybe... just think what a psychedelic journey it would be... possibly instead of Jim, I would have sung :) always with the permission of the lizard king, of course.
hellraiser
23 may 15

A landmark album, like others by Morrison and the guys. I love this Californian group, truly essential and magical...
east of eden80
23 may 15

I almost forgot another important thing: shamanism! Take that, bitols... always without offense! :)
hjhhjij
23 may 15

In the end, I re-evaluated all their albums up to 1971. I’m happy about it, but this remains unattainable: THE masterpiece of The Doors.
east of eden80
23 may 15

It has something unique, because all the songs were born in a favorable atmosphere... the result of many rehearsals and, in addition, evenings spent in clubs; these experiences gave the first two albums the genuineness and spontaneity needed to help the band and their art mature... without the excessive pressures from producers and record labels... being still an emerging group... then there was the contamination of the business... but after all, "Morrison Hotel" and "L.A. Woman" remain masterpieces, with songs that have become classics, like "Roadhouse Blues" and "Riders on the Storm" just to mention a few... all significant for what has been the history of the Doors and Morrison!
hjhhjij
23 may 15

"L. A. Woman" is definitely a splendid album, no doubt about it. But the others are good too, although I wouldn't place them among the albums of a lifetime. At first, they almost made me sick, can you believe it (not The Doors, just those two or three albums)?
east of eden80
23 may 15

The Soft Parade and Waiting for the Sun? Well, they're not that bad...
hjhhjij
23 may 15

Exactly, they're not that bad. I've reevaluated them a bit.

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The Doors: Morrison Hotel

28 jan 16

The disk of rebirth!

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tia
28 jan 16

Never dead for me!
east of eden80
29 jan 16

Masterpiece and that's it!

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The Doors: L.A. Woman

6 sep 15

It's not my favorite, but it contains my favorite song by the band (L.A. Woman), then "Riders on the Storm", "Love Her Madly", etc... A little gem of an album, in short...

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the last
7 sep 15

Truly a blues gem...here Morrison's voice is at its peak in my opinion, gritty, suffering, schizophrenic...great album anyway.

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The Doors: Strange Days

28 jul 15

It may be inferior to the first, but how can you not give a 5 to a record like this?

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Psychopathia
28 jul 15

I will tell you... since I know the first one by heart (I used to listen to it when I was very young), nowadays if I have to listen to the Doors again, I prefer this one a thousand times!

CD Audio I have it ★★★★★

The Jimi Hendrix Experience: Are You Experienced

11 mar 15

It was 1967 and the great Jimi Hendrix with his "Experience" released what is one of the most beautiful, most astonishing (musically speaking) albums of all time.... It sounds damn good even today, and 48 years have passed!!! If you have the remastered version, with tracks like Purple Haze and Hey Joe (just to name a couple), then the pleasure triples!!!!

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Gullickson
11 mar 15

Well, here we’re in the clear.
ROCCIA
12 mar 15

He was beyond. His music was already fusion long before many others. It's a pity he died so young; a collaboration with Miles Davis was already in the works, who knows what a show that would have been...

CD Audio I have it ★★★★★

The Jimi Hendrix Experience: Axis: Bold as Love

17 apr 15

Look, she’s passing through the clouds
With a tightrope spirit running wild
Butterflies and zebras and moonbeams and fairy tales
This has always been the world of her thoughts
Riding with the wind
When I’m sad she comes to me
To gift me a thousand smiles
It's all right, she says, it’s all right
Take From Me Everything You Want
Whatever it is, whatever it is
Fly Little Wing
Yes yes yes yes Baby

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fuggitivo
17 apr 15

What a terrible translation.
Chagall
17 apr 15

It seems to me that those "stories of doing" in English are fairy tales, which is not quite what this is.
Workhorse
18 apr 15

Deeds to stop the decline
fuggitivo
18 apr 15

I didn't mean to offend anyone; it's just that the lyrics of English songs translated into Italian are always dreadful. Everyone knows English.