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  • extro91
    18 dec 12
    You clearly don't know the mod revival '79! That's power-pop at its finest. This is melodic hardcore punk/pop-punk.
     
  • SilasLang
    18 dec 12
    You're referring to those Punk/Hardcore bands that stood out from others (like Germs, Urban Waste, M.D.C.) mainly for a slightly more pronounced use of melody, but not Power Pop, in my opinion. The term Power Pop might be more applicable to albums like "Warehouse" by Husker Du than to the bands you mentioned. Great bands, nonetheless.
     
    • extro91
      18 dec 12
      Sila, in the end not even for Warehouse. I mean, power-pop is really something else musically and also another culture. IMHO
    • SilasLang
      18 dec 12
      In the sense of pop songs played loudly. I was speaking paradoxically. I know that Power Pop is something else (stuff like the Nazz, Knack, and if you want, also The Move and Third Star).
    • extro91
      18 dec 12
      Well, The Knack are just a thing of the past now. In England, there was a whole bunch of mod/power-pop groups that were genuinely impressive, some of whom may even be famous for a couple of songs but are definitely cooler than them, even if unfortunately less well-known. Anyway, I get the point, yes yes. For sure, these "ranked" by gdalc aren't even close to those groups that are decidedly more punk and can be more closely associated with power-pop.
    • extro91
      18 dec 12
      In other words, the discussion about English groups means: they may be famous in the genre, but they are definitely not as popular as The Knack.*
    • SilasLang
      18 dec 12
      Yes. That’s exactly what I meant! Paradoxically, the comparison is more fitting with stuff like the later Husker Du than with the bands he mentioned! Anyway, I admit I’m a bit ignorant on the subject. I know stuff like Nazz, Big Star, The Beat, and not much else.
    • extro91
      18 dec 12
      Well, yes, I would consider The Beat 2-tone ska, although definitely more unique compared to the general trends of their contemporaries. As for Big Star, they’re quite something. The Nazz, in fact, it’s not the first time I’ve come across their name, but I really have no idea what they’re like. What do you think?
    • SilasLang
      18 dec 12
      The Nazz were the band where Todd Rundgren played. I recommend the self-titled debut album, from ’67/’68 I think. Essentially Garage Rock, but they are considered among the pioneers of Power Pop. I don’t know. Anyway, the first one is awesome.
    • SilasLang
      18 dec 12
      I repeat. I think you know more about Power Pop than I do, here...hahaha ;)
    • extro91
      18 dec 12
      Eh, he’s a character I’ve never particularly appreciated for the little I know of him. Mmmm you’ve intrigued me. I will make sure to give it a listen. Thank you.
    • SilasLang
      18 dec 12
      I'm sorry, but I can't access external links including YouTube. However, if you share the text you'd like translated, I'd be happy to help!
    • extro91
      18 dec 12
      Oh well... in the meantime, I don’t know the Nazz! And then everyone has their own fields of interest. Maybe I know more about power-pop and/or ska/rocksteady, but you definitely know more than me when it comes to '90s electronics. My in-depth knowledge is limited to hardcore techno due to an affliction that affects the lands where I live: childhood gabberism.
    • extro91
      18 dec 12
      And of course it hit me too. Thanks for the link, I can feel it now.
    • SilasLang
      18 dec 12
      Ahahahah...For heaven's sake! In the '90s we were a tribe of wanderers at illegal techno parties, many of whom didn't even have a registration, ahahah. But today I wouldn't know how it works. It seems like throwing "techno" parties has become super mainstream now. Ahahah. Well. Whatever.
    • SilasLang
      18 dec 12
      ps. then, we used to connect between occupied warehouses (the old level in Bologna, for example) and HC concerts at Covo, like in Bologna. I wonder if Covo still exists..
    • extro91
      18 dec 12
      Yeah, you're right. I know some people who go there... when I was little, there was only one Mecca for that kind of music: Il Number One - the impossible venue in Brescia. shaved head, Australian bomber jacket, classic with fluorescent laces from Space Trip... good times. And the gabber weren't as unfriendly as they quickly became.
    • extro91
      18 dec 12
      In the sense that, in the end, they all became a bunch of shitheads in my area...
    • SilasLang
      18 dec 12
      No, I've never had anything to do with gabber. I'm talking about the first illegal raves, you know ;) a moment I fully experienced, in the mid/late '90s.
  • extro91
    18 dec 12
    Fabulous power-pop piece!
     
  • gdalc1
    18 dec 12
    Oops, sorry, it's just that within the Hardcore Punk genre there are other bands that are much less melodic, and now calling them pop-punk almost feels like an insult. I put power pop because in my ignorance I had read someone calling them that :)
    Maybe we should create the genre Melodic Hardcore Punk.
     
    • SilasLang
      18 dec 12
      Hardcore a bit more melodic. But maybe Melodic Hardcore is an insult as well.. ahahah. Melodic Hardcore makes me think of stuff like NOFX and Pennywise..
    • extro91
      18 dec 12
      Exactly, trash. Nofx and Pennywise as far as I'm concerned. In the end, it's better to stick with pop-punk. It's the least bad.
    • gdalc1
      18 dec 12
      When you say pop-punk, I think of Green Day. I prefer NOFX and Pennywise...
  • SilasLang
    19 dec 12
    I liked Maximum Rock n'Roll by Nofx, a silly and idiotic collection and for that reason fun. The rest, fluff. Pennywise, definitely not. :D
     
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