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Stalin

IL MIGLIORE! ZIO BEPPE!
<b>Soviet Army Chorus and Band</b>

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Soviet Army Chorus and Band

<b>Erode</b>

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Erode

Orgoglio proletario!
<b>Colonna infame skinhead</b>

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Colonna infame skinhead

Contro ogni droga!
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The Clash

I'm so bored with the USA
<b>Stalin</b>

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Stalin

Uno dei migliori gruppi punk giapponesi
<b>Angelic Upstarts</b>

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Angelic Upstarts

Bandiera Rossa!
<b>Mayhem</b>

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Mayhem

Compagno Euronymous!
<b>Burzum</b>

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Burzum

se i sinistro-borghesi ascoltano l'omofobo buju banton , io posso ascoltare lo xenofobo Bvrzvm
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Stormy Six

anche se erano un po' trotzkisti
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  • March Horses
    March Horses
    30 aug 12
    clash, non-communist anarchoid left; mayhem, once euronymous was dead transformed into a band on the edge of nsbm; dissection, whose leader committed suicide with a fanatic "religious" rite (wasn't religion the opium of the people?); iron maiden, non-communist labourists; kreator, anti-authoritarian left; goblin, in the pay of Dario Argento and George Romero, the former a capitalist and the latter democratic (thus, non-communist); joy division, whose leader represented the "conservative" wing of English (post)punk; depeche mode, symbols of capitalism in music... you seem a bit confused.
     
  • Josif
    Josif
    30 aug 12
    You, on the other hand, are a galactic imbecile. Dissection and Mayhem (with Euro COMMUNIST) = "nazis" = only in your messed-up head. Joy Division, if you didn’t know, even wrote an anti-nazi song ("Walked in Line"), and Depeche Mode even went so far as to praise the legendary Hammer and Sickle. The Clash weren’t M-L but did well to support the Sandinistas. Kreator never claimed to adhere to fake anarchism, but rather to abhor fascism. Goblin is the most apolitical band ever, and if they worked with Argento, it means that, at least back then, they worked with a communist. You’ve heard too much nonsense around.
     
    • March Horses
      30 aug 12
      slacker. You're becoming more bourgeois, a few users ago you were more provocative.
  • korrea
    korrea
    30 aug 12
    Who among the Smiths is a communist? Is it because of Morrissey's skinhead-antiskinhead phase or his attacks on the monarchy?
     
    • Josif
      30 aug 12
      The liberal-capitalist system, through the society of spectacle and consumption, permeates every aspect of our lives. As a communist, I must be realistic and I also have to accept what the consumer society offers (whether at a mainstream or underground level). After all, there are fascists who find themselves forced to listen to the 99 Puzze or hyper-pro-free market libertarians who listen to the Clash.
    • korrea
      30 aug 12
      Perfect, I wasn't expecting a better response.
  • elv
    elv
    30 aug 12
    I believe that Varg Vikernes is not simply xenophobic, but rather a supremacist racist at the ethnic level (Nordics above all). In other words: he’s an idiot.
     
    • Josif
      31 aug 12
      Exactly. What does Elv stand for?
    • elv
      31 aug 12
      River, in Norwegian
  • Josif
    Josif
    30 aug 12
    No one disputes the idiocy of Varg... but at this point let’s put a bomb under the Leonkavallo because it hosted a homophobe who sings "let's shoot the fags." Then, honestly, he might have ideas that oppose mine… but certain compositions are so sad and epic that they evoke glorious images of the Red Army.
     
    • elv
      30 aug 12
      Yes, it was to distinguish between stupid behavior (xenophobes, like the small Lega entrepreneurs who disdain "nègher" but treat them well if they work 14 hours straight for 2 euros/hour) and stupid behavior (Burzum supremacist who claims that the only pure civilization was the Scandinavian/Viking/Germanic one and pities Italians because "brown eyes have the same color as shit"). At this point, you could throw in some martial industrial...
    • Patatrac
      30 aug 12
      elv has lived on the moon, he doesn't read the news, referring to the post below.
  • Patatrac
    Patatrac
    30 aug 12
    The real xenophobes are those who massacre people with incredible violence under the pretext of stealing a handful of euros... the tailored clichés, elv, have had their time.
     
    • elv
      30 aug 12
      No, idiot. Xenophobic is different from racist. The League supporters have always been xenophobic, since the dawn of time. Yellow, black, southerners... all the same for the League supporters: all you have to do is prove to be "hard workers" + "integrate" and suddenly from southerners they become southern League supporters or black Padanians, etc. etc. XENOPHOBIA = fear of the different, but the different can be made the same through integration (and exploitative wages). If you enjoy defending those brothel owners from the League without a fight, that's not my business. One day, perhaps, you will take off your blinders. And like you, also the communists, the Vendolanians, the Berlusconians and the fascists of the third millennium. All fans of football teams, but ideologically absolutely ZERO. Idiot. Fan. Fan and idiot.
    • Josif
      31 aug 12
      Instead, Elv is completely right. Xenophobia = fear and/or aversion towards the different (the negàr, the teruni and everyone else thrown into the same pot). Racism is a doctrine that, specifically, claims the superiority of one race over others through bizarre assumptions (De Gobineau, Hitler, Evola, Freda, etc.). It is still not acceptable in 2012 to confuse these two levels.
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      you talk like the Panini sticker dictionary elv never been afraid of the terroni actually always in the middle, it's just that this whole story about the league has become an urban legend just for dumbed-down kids
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      I don’t want to defend the league, but if two people go out to dinner at a restaurant as good friends every night and only one of them is paying the bill, in the end you ask the other to split the bill "alla Romana."
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      Well, it's clear that if the leftists help non-EU nationals in the job market at the expense of Italians, it gets on your nerves a bit.
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      The Treu Law 97 aimed at that, said in a straightforward manner.
  • Patatrac
    Patatrac
    31 aug 12
    "xenophobia = fear of the different," you little fool, you made that up fresh and new, do I look like I need blinders? -you don't even know where I live, you daft little kid.
     
  • Patatrac
    Patatrac
    31 aug 12
    Josif, why doesn't the person from the south consider the Neapolitan different from the Piedmontese? If you go to Naples to act like a "Lombard," they will mock you right away; you have to integrate into their customs. So, are we all xenophobes?
     
    • Josif
      31 aug 12
      Xenophobia is a living sentiment in many people... this is undeniable. Xenophobia, more than being condemned, should first be understood and then addressed. It is ideological racism that should be fought against. And I'm writing this as someone who doesn't look favorably upon illegal immigration (low-cost labor, exploitation, drug dealing, war among the poor, etc...).
  • Patatrac
    Patatrac
    31 aug 12
    White Fang continues to read about books, for me that definition is wrong, it’s like if you take a red ball and a yellow one, who is intolerant of the other?
     
    • ZannaB
      31 aug 12
      It’s not a definition, it’s the etymology of the word. If you want to use a word with a meaning different from its original one, that’s your problem, but its original meaning is not up for debate.
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      "fear and/or aversion towards the different"
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      if you then extract this sentence to instrumentalize it for your own purposes, you will see that it becomes "wrong"
    • ZannaB
      31 aug 12
      "You've 'extrapolated this phrase to instrumentalize it for your own purposes,' and that's exactly what you've done until now, dear! :-)"
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      You see that you are not as deficient as I thought, only that you should have used the "Plural."
    • ZannaB
      31 aug 12
      Sorry, I haven't (yet) used the word xenophobia to illustrate any of my thoughts or opinions, so I doubt I've weaponized it. Anyway, if it makes you happy to believe that, you are free to do so. ;-)
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      Pretend you don't understand... there are at least three nicknames that have used it.
    • ZannaB
      31 aug 12
      But I don't care, I'm talking to you...
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      you provided the correct answer; I just confirmed it with the addition of the plural (other nick).
    • nes
      31 aug 12
      "For me that definition is wrong." It's because you're an idiot; get used to it.
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      nes dai you’ve said your piece this time too
  • Patatrac
    Patatrac
    31 aug 12
    Then Elv takes as an example, being in perpetual bad faith, whatever he likes, because have you ever seen a Chinese person buy a drink for an Egyptian or a Peruvian? Everyone minds their own business and sometimes they even fight. It's not okay like this; this country is one and it’s called Italy, and we have to speak one language: Italian.
     
    • elv
      31 aug 12
      What the hell did you understand? Besides, I'm not very supportive of extreme multiculturalism. I think you're the one who sees bad faith in whatever you want. You haven't understood a damn thing because you lack the basics (have you read Josif's last two comments on your comments?).
    • ZannaB
      31 aug 12
      Patatrac, please just one thing, tell me you’re 14 years old and I’ll justify everything you’ve written…
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      white fang tries to say a couple of words that make me feel like a mute
    • ZannaB
      31 aug 12
      It's better to remain silent and give the impression of being foolish than to speak and remove all doubt... Does it say anything to you?
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      It tells me that you didn't say a thing, anyway, I'm glad for you, we are all set.
    • ZannaB
      31 aug 12
      You were talking about xenophobia (and I interrupted, if that bothers you just say it and I'll back off...) and you brought up a Chinese person who never bought a drink for an Egyptian... Do you realize the absurdity of your examples and the inconsistency with the topic at hand or not?
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      Ah, here instead negher terun are serious topics, just so. If we stay on the theme "adverse towards the different," I've never seen Peruvians celebrating joyfully in the square with groups of Chinese, nor Peruvians with Egyptians. You don't understand their language, but I could also think that a Chinese person says, "I can't stand that Norwegian; either he works like me or I won't greet him."
    • ZannaB
      31 aug 12
      You're a bit twisted, but I think I understand what you're saying... In the place where I work, there are many foreigners of various nationalities and with various roles. There are about 1,000 employees, and after 7 years, I've learned to recognize those who are a little more "intolerant." Coincidentally, I've seen them look disdainfully at the Black workers but not at my Swedish software colleague, nor at the French designer, or the hot Ukrainian marketing girl. Xenophobia isn't generic; it's directed towards specific categories, and the fact that a Peruvian doesn't party with a Chinese doesn't mean they're xenophobic. The fact that many Italians in Italy disdain the Chinese, however, might indeed be...
    • ZannaB
      31 aug 12
      You're a bit twisted, but I think I understand what you're saying... In the place where I work, there are many foreigners of various nationalities and with various roles. There are about 1,000 employees, and after 7 years, I've learned to recognize those who are a little more "intolerant." Coincidentally, I've seen them look disdainfully at the Black workers but not at my Swedish software colleague, nor at the French designer, or the hot Ukrainian marketing girl. Xenophobia isn't generic; it's directed towards specific categories, and the fact that a Peruvian doesn't party with a Chinese doesn't mean they're xenophobic. The fact that many Italians in Italy disdain the Chinese, however, might indeed be...
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      The nice thing is that we're talking about Italy... the country where anything is allowed as soon as you step outside, they'll skin you alive.
    • ZannaB
      31 aug 12
      Double post, sorry my fault...
    • ZannaB
      31 aug 12
      I don’t understand what changes in the overall discussion. If you prohibit immigration, you certainly won’t see any manifestation of xenophobia…
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      I have seen many foreigners intolerant towards Italians, I have seen many foreigners committing crimes against Italians, I have seen acts of violence towards Italians. Your speeches are not just hot air; they are also factions.
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      In short, you want to see it from just one side, I see it from all sides; you are on the left, I am not.
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      In the meantime, they're keeping their distance, so I can't think they have much sympathy for each other... and then if they fight, haven’t you ever read about brawls between youth gangs of different nationalities? Don’t tell me you haven’t, okay?
    • ZannaB
      31 aug 12
      But I never said that only Italians are xenophobic, but if a black person is xenophobic and emigrates to Italy, they are not just xenophobic, they're also an idiot! As for acts of violence against Italians (if I understood correctly, you’re referring to foreigners living in Italy, right?), they don’t necessarily have to be attributed to xenophobia; all aspects of the incidents should be analyzed, which seems a bit lengthy to me. Anyway, you're right, I’ve traveled around Europe and I've seen how people look at me (you have to see the Austrians!!!), so it’s not like I want to see it from just one side; I simply used Italy as an example because I know it better. Additionally, I would like to know under what twisted reasoning you came to the conclusion that I am left-wing...
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      They emigrate in masses, not just one, you know? Listen up, when we become a minority, be ready, or are you waiting for a Chinese person to hire you for your books? Then you’ll see the spit in your face, more than just xenophobia. You live on words if not on the moon; you still haven't understood.
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      it's just you, leftist, thinking about them; they don't think about you, wake up.
    • ZannaB
      31 aug 12
      But do you flip the omelet every time you respond? Where did I say that only one of them emigrates??? Anyway, they are over a billion and we are 60 million; if they want to colonize us, they will do it, do you think a pseudo-law against Chinese immigration would protect Italian xenophobes? And by the way, thanks for the "cicciobello," it's one of the best compliments I've ever received! ;-)
    • ZannaB
      31 aug 12
      Oh, and just for the record, I'm not left-wing...
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      I don't turn anything around, you didn't specify at all, but it doesn't change anything. They could even be ten who come here just for work, but in reality, they hate Italians and can’t wait to get drunk to prove it. The point is that you're stubborn in your ideology; whether they are xenophobic or not, I'll let you decide. That word is thrown around every two seconds. Even the terrrone used to come to the north complaining that the city disgusted him, saying the northern people were cold and blah blah blah, but then he met me and changed his mind.
    • ZannaB
      31 aug 12
      No, but let me understand: you defend your opinion (badly in my view) and that's fine. I defend my opinion (perhaps just as badly) and I'm being stubborn. And as far as I can understand, only because I don't think like you. Congratulations, this is indeed a demonstration of open-mindedness...
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      My opinion is that xenophobia is a "wrong" definition that is conveniently manipulated, while the reality of the facts is quite different and diversified in many aspects. You, who are confined to a category of Italians. I do not draw conclusions.
    • ZannaB
      31 aug 12
      I believe you misinterpreted my words, in fact, I agreed with you a little earlier when you said that xenophobia is also rooted abroad. Anyway, xenophobia is a wrong definition for what? Just know that you can be a bit convoluted when you explain yourself, certainly presumptuous, and also a bit delusional. All things I adore!
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      Here it is, now the moment has arrived that could not be missed by the good sinistroide docg, that of misrepresentation and the things he adores. The ending is a classic of the genre.
    • ZannaB
      31 aug 12
      Ah, being misinterpreted is typical of the leftist! In fact, the famous knight of labor, a known leftist, did it all the time! And just to clarify, "tutte cose che adoro" was ironic and you are an idiot...
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      Sure it was ironic otherwise the ending would have changed, docg
    • ZannaB
      31 aug 12
      I’m only just starting to understand now why Elv gave up right away and Jurix isn’t even replying to you. Well, I’ve learned something today too...
    • nes
      31 aug 12
      "Have you ever seen a Chinese person buy a drink for an Egyptian or a Peruvian?" My goodness, what arguments... Did you toughen up reading Signorini by any chance?
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      They can go fuck themselves; I clearly heard a Chinese guy call an Egyptian a nigger. These were Elv's arguments.
  • Patatrac
    Patatrac
    31 aug 12
    what bases am I missing, asshole?
     
    • elv
      31 aug 12
      you lack ALL the basics, fool.
  • Patatrac
    Patatrac
    31 aug 12
    the ideological racism, that is, the left that "isolates" everyone who does not think like them? help me understand, you little fool, what do you mean?
     
  • Patatrac
    Patatrac
    31 aug 12
    elv you have lived in a cellophane-wrapped box for your 15 years, you go to daddy to talk about foundations.
     
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      box
    • elv
      31 aug 12
      15 years my ass. You're stupid and ignorant. Stupid because you understand pears for apples. Ignorant because you write bullshit (then you talk about "left" while discussing xenophobia/racism... the same if you had brought up the concept of "right" for the League).
    • elv
      31 aug 12
      You don't understand a damn thing, you're ignorant and arrogant. I will avoid responding to you again. A nightstand can argue better.
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      you are a Panini sticker album, go back to the box
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      The number one xenophobes are those on the left, opposed—wait, OPPOSED—to anyone who doesn't think like them; it fits perfectly instead.
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      It's easy with xenophobes; however you twist it, it always works out fine...
  • JURIX
    JURIX
    31 aug 12
    One of the most MMMeraviJose things about DeBaZer is that there's always someone who responds, trying to make something clear to PATATRAC/PANZZZONE. Juppy-Dù.
     
    • ZannaB
      31 aug 12
      I have to pass the time on this dreary day, right? ;-)
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      I have to understand that part of the Italians are xenophobic, jurix goes back to playing with your zzzZZZZ age.
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      ZZZZZZ zzzz
    • nes
      31 aug 12
      "I need to understand what part of Italians are xenophobic." And buy a dictionary then, you idiot!
  • Patatrac
    Patatrac
    31 aug 12
    buy yourself a brain, nes
     
    • nes
      31 aug 12
      You use it, you idiot.
    • nes
      31 aug 12
      Actually, sell it to me, since it's a "used item kept like new, less than 1000 km."
  • Patatrac
    Patatrac
    31 aug 12
    board with your gypsy friends who you never know what they’re talking about you’re a cardboard cartoon
     
  • nes
    nes
    31 aug 12
    You? Now some things are being explained to me. I'm sorry if I treated you badly, I couldn't know. Seriously: I'm sorry.
     
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      What are you saying? Ahahahah get out of here, you’re ridiculous!
  • Patatrac
    Patatrac
    31 aug 12
    he keeps sending the ling ahah ah aahh ah
     
    • nes
      31 aug 12
      And you, being silly, don’t open them and keep spouting nonsense...
  • elv
    elv
    31 aug 12
    You're an idiot, patatrac. And you really don't understand a damn thing. I explain to you that xenophobia is different from racism and you get mad because I targeted the leghisti. You defend the League from accusations of xenophobia and bring up the differences between Piedmontese and Neapolitans, claiming that in Italy only Italian is spoken, thus showing yourself to be both xenophobic and leghista at the same time. Definitions are given to you and you manage to use the term XENOFOBIA in examples of RAZZISMO among immigrants. You're a complete moron, you haven't gotten one thing right. Ignorant and stupid.
     
    • nes
      31 aug 12
      You have to concede that Italian is the only language spoken in this country: not everyone has the luck to be able to leave their neighborhood and see, not the world, but even just their own province. We could take up a collection and gift them a ticket to the province of Bergamo or Brescia. Then we could send them to Val Chiavenna, but I’m afraid they might feel homesick there.
    • nes
      31 aug 12
      In the province of Rovigo, one should carry a simultaneous translator with them.
    • elv
      31 aug 12
      Brescia is now a city - in fact, a metropolis - multicultural (to use a euphemism), among bresà, negri, cinesi, and calabresi our mess would start bubbling from all orifices trying to figure out who and/or what is xenophobic. Let’s send it to Alta Val Camonica, I’m sure it would find unspoiled landscapes, people of a single color and one language (not true, I'm romancing) and at the first signs of globalization we could admire it moving on horseback, dressed in ram skin and with half its face painted green, shouting disconnected but sincere phrases about "life, death, hopes and LIBERTY (if I may)". Mess with a dauntless heart.
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      xenophobia: fear or aversion towards the different. It means everything and nothing; you can use it however you like, with whomever you like, and whenever you like. Between a Romanian who beats an Egyptian because he can't stand him and an Italian who calls the first passerby a negher, what’s the difference? The first is racist, the second xenophobic? Don’t get angry if you use words randomly just to manipulate. Fool.
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      you’ve been lobotomized since birth
    • elv
      31 aug 12
      As long as upon his arrival the local Camuni don't massacre him with unheard-of violence, being xenophobic.
    • nes
      31 aug 12
      "fear or WARNING towards the other" The answer to your question lies in the first line you wrote... Those you refer to: "The real xenophobes are those who brutally massacre people under the pretext of stealing a handful of euros" are called CRIMINALS; they have no color, race, or country of origin. But are you really that ignorant or are you just doing it to kill time (I’d understand you, you know...)?
    • nes
      31 aug 12
      "You're the one who's been lobotomized since birth," while you instead seem like a broken record. By the way, you can't be lobotomized at birth, but I don't expect you to know that; we're still at the level of "Let's learn the meaning of words."
    • elv
      31 aug 12
      "What changes, the first one is racist, the second one xenophobic?" You still haven't understood a damn thing. No wonder people make fun of you. You're mostly stupid, besides being ignorant.
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      head of elv the examples are relevant if you go to Naples and act like a show-off they’ll give you the “opponent”. jerk.
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      Of course, you understood the difference: explain it to me.
    • elv
      31 aug 12
      "If you go to Naples and act like a show-off, they'll give you the 'opponent' themselves. Idiot." ...in this case, are the Neapolitans xenophobic or racist?
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      You got it, when it suits them they call them criminals, the gangs from the East that massacre for a few euros are just criminals. They don’t do it because many of us annoy them and they can't stand us. Seriously, get out of my sight because you really disgust me.
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      you have to answer, elv, you are the wise one
    • nes
      31 aug 12
      patatrac: the nazziskin are racist, the South Tyroleans xenophobic. xenophobia is the first step towards racism, xenophobia makes no distinctions of race: everything that is different (especially if unknown) is to be avoided. Racism is based on racial differences between whites/blacks/greens/yellows/red. At home, write 5 short thoughts with the word "razzista" and 5 with the word "xenofobo", we will correct them tomorrow.
  • elv
    elv
    31 aug 12
    Oops, you're missing the BASICS.
     
  • nes
    nes
    31 aug 12
    "They don't do it because we really get on their nerves and they can't stand us. SANTO DIO! Let us understand, are you convinced that you are a victim of racism in your own home? Stop reading Sallusti and Feltri: they've dulled your senses beyond the limits of decency!"
     
  • Patatrac
    Patatrac
    31 aug 12
    "Xenophobia does not distinguish between races" but how? Quote from Elv "xenophobes, like the little Lega entrepreneurs who disdain the Negroes" You don't even know what you're talking about; the important thing is to take words at random and use them as you please. Well, they're all three lefties, and it's understandable.
     
    • nes
      31 aug 12
      elv is wrong. Moreover, the members of the League are neither xenophobic nor racist; they are just poor souls who have elected people for 20 years who have been happily mocking them (this has come to light, among other things).
  • Patatrac
    Patatrac
    31 aug 12
    sure that we are victims of racism in our own home: ASSHOLE!
     
    • nes
      31 aug 12
      Well, we can leave it here. You are indeed as stupid as you seem.
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      ok come on you’re too much enough is enough
    • nes
      31 aug 12
      But do me a favor: get a t-shirt printed with the absurdity you wrote above and never take it off: it’s only fair that those who don’t know you know who they’re about to deal with.
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      I'll do all the favors you want, but you lack the experience to express yourself, and then you're as stupid as a goat—a deadly mix. I'll repeat that for you.
    • nes
      31 aug 12
      yes, okay, in the meantime make yourself the t-shirt.
  • Patatrac
    Patatrac
    31 aug 12
    with nes it's a rule the fingers are already set
     
  • elv
    elv
    31 aug 12
    PATATRAC I'm writing you the two meanings, after which I'll tell you to get lost forever. 1) XENOPHOBE: a person who is afraid of or has an aversion to what is different. Extreme case: if the different is no longer different, it’s no longer scary. Example: the League supporter annoyed by the presence of foreigners would no longer be annoyed if they were to behave exactly like the locals. (See some form of physical violence?) 2) RACIST: a person who has an aversion to the different and wants to keep their race pure, often with supremacist attitudes. Example (you did this): the Chinese person doesn’t buy a drink for the Egyptian, as they are of a different race, and prefers to be with their own kind. Extreme case: Under no circumstances would the Chinese person compromise their identity by behaving like the locals (no integration), ending up self-ghettoizing.
     
    • elv
      31 aug 12
      EXAMPLE OF LEGHIST XENOPHOBIA: Too many blacks in the French National Team (2006): Borghezio cheers for Italy. /// "Balotelli is a Padanian with dark skin" (cited Borghezio, 2012)
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      No, you didn't understand. I don't care about the crap you read somewhere; I want an answer to the two examples that I wrote to you.
    • elv
      31 aug 12
      Patatrac, I'm adding my comment aimed at you up there: "No, you fool. Xenophobic is different from racist. Those from the League have always been xenophobic, as long as the world has existed. Yellow, black, southerners... all the same for those from the League: all you have to do is prove to be 'good workers' + 'integrate' and voilà, from southerners they become southern League members or black Padanians, etc. etc. XENOPHOBIA = fear of the different, but the different can be made the same through integration (and exploitation wages). If you like to defend those League idiots tooth and nail, that's not my business. One day, perhaps, you will take off your blinders. And like you, the communists, the Vendolanians, the Berlusconi supporters, and the fascists of the third millennium. All fans of football teams, but ideologically of ABSOLUTE ZERO. Fool. Fan. Fan and fool."
    • nes
      31 aug 12
      "No, you don't understand, I don't care about the spiel you read somewhere, I want an answer to the two examples I wrote to you." It's you who doesn't understand: we don't give a damn about answering an idiot, we just enjoy insulting you.
    • elv
      31 aug 12
      And with this, I kindly invite you to go take a hike. You and your illogical and unrealistic examples. Say hi to Borghezio and his Padanian friend Balotelli for me.
    • nes
      31 aug 12
      The answers to your question: "how can it be that xenophobes are not those who beat and steal for a few bucks" have already been given, but you are too attached to beliefs born of ignorance to be able to understand it. You are free to keep rambling your ideas on the site, but don't complain if someone tells you to fuck off, and above all remember that that someone will always be right.
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      The exploitative wages were invented by those on the left in collusion with businesses, but look, even the Moroccan pizza maker exploits pizza workers for 4 euros an hour for 12 hours. I've told you, you're interested in using words to get to say whatever you want, but deep down you couldn't care less about wages, exploitation, etc. ... you're a damned leftist ideologue just like your bourgeois buddy nes who makes the chickens laugh.
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      are you still here ? we'll see each other in ten years when that melon will still be unripe
    • nes
      31 aug 12
      "The exploitative salaries were invented by those on the left. Now, calmly explain to us what the hell that has to do with xenophobia and racism?"
    • nes
      31 aug 12
      "Are you still here, nes?" "No, I'm over there..."
    • elv
      31 aug 12
      "They were invented by the left," "you're a damn leftist ideologue" ...and you’re just a white-green soccer fan. Someone who looks at things from only one side. You probably wear blinders. "But deep down, you don't give a shit about wages, exploitation, etc., etc." ...I see that you, on the other hand, care a lot since you didn’t consider a damn thing about that argument. You're a foolish fan. And with that, I really close.
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      I’ve made so many examples, and you’re still stuck on the one about the negher, after 20 years still with the negher. Come on, at least update yourselves, you’re a broken record.
  • Ferruccio Gard
    Ferruccio Gard
    31 aug 12
    Praising a fucking killer is idiotic and doesn't make anyone laugh. They should lock you in a cage.
     
    • nes
      31 aug 12
      He’s already locked in a pen; if he were outdoors, he would have better things to do than ranking like a moron on Debaser.
  • Lao Tze
    Lao Tze
    31 aug 12
    incredible, incredible, incredible. Patatrac, you managed to overshadow even Josif's deficiency. HATS OFFFFFF!!!!
     
    • Patatrac
      31 aug 12
      lao returns to apparent meditation
    • nes
      31 aug 12
      The funniest thing is seeing that while he flounders in a lake of guano, instead of heading to the shore, he swims powerfully towards the center.
  • March Horses
    March Horses
    31 aug 12
    I was gone for a day, and everything happened here. What a nice thing.
     
  • ZannaB
    ZannaB
    3 sep 12
    When everyone is against you and you tirelessly continue to stand by your reasons against everything and everyone, there are two possibilities: either you are a fucking genius who has understood everything and others aren’t even worthy of speaking to you, or quite simply, you are an idiot. Example of the first category: Galileo. Example of the second category: take a guess…
     
  • Karter4
    Karter4
    4 sep 12
    Can I say my piece? Thank you... HOLY SH*T!! :)
     
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