PROGJOE

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Best Metal band of all time
Questa classifica è basata solo su i miei gusti personali e sull' importanza che hanno avuto nella mia vita musicale, non sulla bravura dei gruppi, quindi, per favore non scannatevi!
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  • Felo
    Felo
    17 oct 10
    Judas Priest? Black Sabbath?
    You included Pantera but not Exhorder (Pantera is basically the bad copy), Slipknot? D:
    Dream Theater at the top is unacceptable, Death under Metallica, all the power is missing, Manowar are missing, basically, a terrible ranking.
     
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  • PROGJOE
    PROGJOE
    17 oct 10
    I wrote at the top of the chart that it was based on my personal tastes, so it's understandable that you might like bands that I didn't include. I basically don't listen to Power (with a few exceptions); it seems too repetitive to me: the usual double bass rides in 4/4. As for Manowar, no way! I won't give them to you... they think they're the lords of metal, but I have my doubts!
    Regarding Judas Priest and Black Sabbath, I agree with you; I could have included them in the chart, but these bands have been more influential. Peace.
     
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  • Felo
    Felo
    17 oct 10
    Yeah, whatever, Dream Theater suck, they're trying to copy the style of the '70s and end up with hyper-technical stuff that's boring (and this is coming from someone who mainly listens to Progressive).
     
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  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    17 oct 10
    It's alright progjoe, you should know that here on debaser, clichés are built upon clichés. The excesses of Dream Theater came over time, but their first three albums were original and significant for the evolution of metal. Then it's true that after losing Kevin Moore (essential), they also lost their balance and tipped over into showiness.
     
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  • dlf
    dlf
    17 oct 10
    I mainly listen to prog, but I've also absorbed a lot of metal (especially in the past) and I have to say that seeing Death so low and DT in first place makes my balls drop. As for Slipknot... steaming pile of shit.
     
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  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    17 oct 10
    In reality, the biggest absence here is Fates Warning...
     
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  • PROGJOE
    PROGJOE
    17 oct 10
    @fedezan76 it's nice to find someone who agrees with me! The early albums are amazing, even though the latest works are a bit too redundant and self-celebratory.
    As for Fates Warning, I can tell you that I got their albums, but I haven't listened to them with the attention they deserve yet. Mea Culpa.
    @dlf I really like the early Slipknot, and I added them because I started listening to them and then moved on to "proper metal," although I think this categorization between true metal and nu metal is just a load of crap!
     
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  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    17 oct 10
    Well, progjoe, and don't underestimate the Savatage either (Dead Winter Dead, Streets, Edge of Thorns, and Handful of Rain).
     
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  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    17 oct 10
    @felo: "basically the Pantera are the bad copy" (of Exhorder), let’s not say bullshit :) @progjoe: "As for Judas Priest and Black Sabbath, I agree with you, I could have ranked them, but these bands have been more influential" you shouldn't say bullshit either :)
     
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  • dlf
    dlf
    17 oct 10
    Noooo! Don't say "true metal"! You're reminding me of Manowar... I care about my heterosexuality.
     
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  • PROGJOE
    PROGJOE
    17 oct 10
    fedezan76 for Savatage, the same applies as for Fates Warning, I just need time!
     
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  • PROGJOE
    PROGJOE
    17 oct 10
    Great dlf!
     
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  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    17 oct 10
    Go son, listen and then destroy them all! UH! :D
     
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  • PROGJOE
    PROGJOE
    17 oct 10
    In fact, if you have any other groups to suggest to me, feel free to do so!
     
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  • dlf
    dlf
    17 oct 10
    Fedezan is the prophet of prog-metal, trust me. I don’t put my seal on it because the genre sits a bit heavy with me. Teenage, I love Pantera but it’s truly too precise a coincidence that the four Texans changed their musical genre right after the release of "Slaughter in the Vatican". Not a bad copy but definitely skilled scribes.
     
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  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    17 oct 10
    Overkill, Napalm, Sepultura, Mastodon, Obituary, Venom, Motorhead....
     
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  • dlf
    dlf
    17 oct 10
    the Tool!!!!
     
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  • gate
    gate
    17 oct 10
    Excuse me, but does no one give a damn about Celtic Frost?!
     
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  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    17 oct 10
    @dlf: I am the prophet of music. (frame: sunglasses, arms crossed over the chest, gaze slightly tilted and directed towards the horizon). @progjoe: shadow gallery, angra (holy land), royal hunt (moving target, paradox), Saviour Machine (Saviour Machine I).
     
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  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    17 oct 10
    As for the famous Pantera/Exhorder story: I take and make my own a comment found on Deb's only review of Slaughter in the Vatican: "Exhorder are to Pantera what Motörhead are to Metallica"... I hope I conveyed the idea.
     
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  • Felo
    Felo
    17 oct 10
    teenagelobotomy, "the Exorder are to Pantera what Motorhead are to Metallica" yeah, right.

    As for Prog Metal, Crimson Glory and Ayreon should come before Dream Theater.
     
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  • PROGJOE
    PROGJOE
    17 oct 10
    Thank you for the suggestions, I have a lot of the stuff you recommended, I will listen to it more closely.
     
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  • Rocky Marciano
    Rocky Marciano
    17 oct 10
    aside from Death, Slayer, and Queensryche, all mediocre bands.
     
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  • Felo
    Felo
    18 oct 10
    Completely agree with Rocky Marciano.
     
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  • Felo
    Felo
    18 oct 10
    PS: I also save the Megadeth.
     
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  • Felo
    Felo
    29 dec 10
    Type O' Negative?
     
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  • PROGJOE
    PROGJOE
    29 dec 10
    I don't like...
     
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  • Stefano90
    Stefano90
    29 dec 10
    Type 0 Negative? I don't like them... Well... No... That's not true, come on :) Listen to the first one better. Trust me :) Regards
     
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  • Felo
    Felo
    29 dec 10
    The first is a fucking masterpiece.
     
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  • PROGJOE
    PROGJOE
    29 dec 10
    Okay, I accept your advice, I'll give it a listen.
     
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  • PROGJOE
    PROGJOE
    29 dec 10
    ...better!
     
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