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<b>Luciano Ligabue</b>

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  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    18 aug 10
    @Den Vlaams now it’s fine. ;)
     
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  • Harry Bosch
    Harry Bosch
    18 aug 10
    I don't fully agree, but that's fine, after all.
     
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  • manolis
    manolis
    18 aug 10
    great, even though Dire Straits aren't that bad after all
     
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  • MirrorBallMan
    MirrorBallMan
    15 sep 10
    The Edge?! The electric guitar is not just technique and virtuosity, but above all passion and feeling, which The Edge certainly possesses.
     
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  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    25 sep 10
    But please, the only thing that The Edge doesn't lack is money!!! Worse than him is only Sid Vicious, actually no! :D
     
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  • Rock70
    Rock70
    18 oct 10
    I don't agree with Dire Straits or with the Sex Pistols... but I totally agree with Yngwie Malmsteen!
     
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  • Mr. Money87
    Mr. Money87
    9 nov 10
    The Dire Straits 15th place? No way! And U2, with all the crap out there, I'd put them quite a bit lower (certainly not in the top 5).
     
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  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    4 dec 10
    I agree with a lot of things in this ranking, except for 2: Dire Straits (there are much worse bands, see AC/DC and Guns – even though I know you don’t mind them) and maybe the Clash, who don’t drive me crazy either, but to be considered among the worst of all time? I totally agree on U2 and Pistols (add their dear bassist too, the epitome of nothingness ;)
     
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  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    4 dec 10
    ehhhh, actually it should be slightly updated, the thing is that just looking at this ranking gives me a significant sense of anguish! xD For sure Sid should be added, the Clash cannot be touched, it’s already a lot that they’re not in the top 5. As for Dire Straits, even though I find them incredibly overrated, I could actually remove them...
     
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  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    4 dec 10
    Yes, go ahead and remove Mark Knopfler's band, you can keep the Clash (I'm not exactly a fan either) and immediately add the most useless "bassist" in history :)
    Ligabue even appears twice! Wonderful
     
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  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    4 dec 10
    Now she is truly beautiful! Perfect.
     
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  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    4 dec 10
    In fact, there would be "characters" to add, only right now I can’t think of any...
     
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  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    4 dec 10
    There would be many more, but it's fine as it is, let's not hurt ourselves any further :)
     
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  • POSTIN
    POSTIN
    7 jan 11
    I agree on everything except for Clash, Ramones, and Kiss... finally someone who hates U2.
     
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  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    7 jan 11
    the U2 are evil. ;)
     
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  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    7 jan 11
    Evil maybe not, but they all fit in this ranking, especially since the last two albums are truly awful (and I held back). Anyway, I reiterate, great ranking.
     
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  • YRO167
    YRO167
    7 jan 11
    What a punch to the heart, Stone... When I was thirteen (many years ago, I swear), I was jumping on the living room floor with my brother listening to Alive II by Kiss on our father's stereo, who wanted to call an exorcist! You know how it is, you grow up, but you never forget your first love! And I find them here, among the worst... what have they done to you?!?
     
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  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    7 jan 11
    I'm not particularly fond of Kiss, but saying they're among the worst seems exaggerated.
     
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  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    7 jan 11
    I'm sorry, but in my mind, Kiss represents the degradation of music in favor of the most base business; I just can't stand them. ;)
     
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  • YRO167
    YRO167
    7 jan 11
    I can't disagree with you; after all, Simmons and Stanley's well-known origins leave no doubt about their money-grabbing tendency. However, I assure you that in their very early years, they truly worked hard, and at least until '77 they were still genuine and live performances were a blast. From there on, though, you know how it goes—their pupils were replaced by the dollar sign.
     
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  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    7 jan 11
    True, until '77 they weren't that thirsty for money and commercialism, and they made some good albums, which may not necessarily be masterpieces and might not be to everyone's liking ;). I like Kiss, with their ups and downs, especially up to Destroyer.
     
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  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    7 jan 11
    YRO, hjhhjij, fedeZ, I have great respect for your opinion, so... 3 vs 1, damn you’re putting me in a tough spot! -.-'
     
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  • YRO167
    YRO167
    7 jan 11
    Yes, let’s say that on "Destroyer" (considered by many to be their peak but I prefer "Hotter Than Hell") it’s more about the four of them being taken in hand by that genius of the recording studio, Bob Ezrin, who transformed them into a "noble" band with chrome sounds and super glossy production. But I prefer them rough, without so many embellishments. The solo albums by Stanley and Frehley from ’78 are real masterpieces.
     
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  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    7 jan 11
    Look, Stone, I can't stand them either. I'm on the opposite side; I've always rooted for the Angels... but objectively, they made some great albums, especially in the '70s.
     
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  • YRO167
    YRO167
    7 jan 11
    Great faith, but seriously, does no one know Angel?!? How old are you guys? Am I the only old-timer in the group? :-(
    And it's ironic because Angel was actually launched by Kiss (same record label, after all). Their debut album is simply thrilling, immense, a natural crossroads between Hard and Prog...
     
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  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    7 jan 11
    Well, if the last 2 digits of your nickname refer to your birth year, then we have exactly a 20-year difference! XD P.S.: I don't know the Angel... is that a big deal???
     
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  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    7 jan 11
    yro167, and who do you think was the first to review it in here, the first of the Angels??? ;D
     
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  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    7 jan 11
    However, to be honest, I was still immature and I don't think anyone paid attention to me. :(
     
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  • YRO167
    YRO167
    7 jan 11
    Yes, 167 refers to January '67. You could almost be my son ;-) not knowing the Angels isn't a big deal, it's criminally prosecutable ;-P Look, use any tricks you want (to those who understand...), but you can't NOT have the first of the Angels. The opening track "The Tower" is epic, an exhilarating crescendo!
     
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  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    7 jan 11
    In short, you weren't a big shot yet! XD
     
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  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    7 jan 11
    I absolutely agree, I would even say the first two!
     
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  • YRO167
    YRO167
    7 jan 11
    In that case, I have the entire discography ;-)
     
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  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    7 jan 11
    Now I'm in a Van Der Graaf Generator phase... once I'm done with them, I'll move on to the self-titled album by Angel, then! ;)
     
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  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    7 jan 11
    YRO, is there a musical artist whose entire discography you don't own? XD
     
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  • YRO167
    YRO167
    7 jan 11
    Okay, I absolve you... three Our Fathers and a Hail Mary... uh... Mary...
     
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  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    7 jan 11
    I have listened to all their albums, but as far as I'm concerned, only the first two are essential.
     
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  • YRO167
    YRO167
    7 jan 11
    So many. I've tried, as much as possible, to take the best from the tip of the iceberg, but I still have many gaps. I'll make up for it in the next forty years ;-P
     
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  • gnagnera
    gnagnera
    14 jan 11
    Aside from the presence of Ramones and Clash and the absence of those fucking rich hippies NOFX (as well as all the black metal), I’d say it’s perfect!
     
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  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    14 jan 11
    Well, yes, NOFX could fit in! ;)
     
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  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    30 jan 11
    I like Sonic (but not too much ;). The sexy guns too low Stone, you’re too nice.
     
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  • McEnroe
    McEnroe
    30 jan 11
    I agree on everything!
     
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  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    30 jan 11
    At least those guys were real punk, not like that crap from The Clash. The Sonic Fru-Fru, on the other hand, aren't even worthy of being considered music.
     
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  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    30 jan 11
    Really? Well, I get it, more than music it was noise :D
     
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  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    30 jan 11
    Yes, like the noises I make on the toilet seat. ;D
     
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  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    30 jan 11
    Could you make us a record, praised by critics as "the pinnacle of noise-intestinal experimentation in the Italian rock scene from '75 to today"? XD.
     
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  • magnum p.i.
    magnum p.i.
    30 jan 11
    It seems you don't appreciate the Uddùe, well, then we have something in common, shall we team up? Not bad, but Clash and Sonic Youth are among the greatest bands of all time, they shouldn't be here. Leave punk aside; the Clash were only punk at the beginning, then they made rock'n'roll, a ridiculous punk band, but an unforgettable rock'n'roll band.
     
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  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    30 jan 11
    It depends on personal taste, but for me they're completely forgettable ;) Magnum, I still haven't understood one thing: you like the Led, but do you find them overrated or do you just not like them at all?
     
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  • magnum p.i.
    magnum p.i.
    30 jan 11
    I don't like them, but sometimes I do. It depends on the days. Sometimes I find them unbearable, other times I can't find them at all. Anyway, yes, I AM IRONMAN.
     
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  • stonecoldcrazy
    stonecoldcrazy
    30 jan 11
    Yes, magnum, I want to be with you! And know that we have at least one more thing in common: the veneration for Cimmi Endrics! :)
     
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  • Geo@Geo
    Geo@Geo
    30 jan 11
    Some things are shareable, but The Clash and the Kiss, as much as I don't listen to them anymore, seem excessive to me :)DD
     
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  • scaruffoditurno
    scaruffoditurno
    30 jan 11
    sense?
     
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  • Felo
    Felo
    23 feb 11
    And what are the Clash, the Ramones, and especially Sonic Youth doing here?
     
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  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    23 feb 11
    The Ramones fit perfectly :)
     
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  • Felo
    Felo
    23 feb 11
    Not at all. Above Ligabue then.
     
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  • ProgRock
    ProgRock
    23 feb 11
    Alright, Clash, Ramones, U2, Coldplay, but Sonic Youth? Come on, have some decency! :)
     
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  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    23 feb 11
    No, it's true; above Ligamucca, no, but they are all there anyway.
     
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  • WatchMoreTv
    WatchMoreTv
    15 mar 11
    Why don't you complete the lineup by adding the bassist and drummer from U2, come on? What a shitty ranking..
     
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  • progknight94
    progknight94
    2 apr 11
    In short, is it his ranking or yours?? ;D
     
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  • JackLemmon
    JackLemmon
    23 jun 11
    I also hate U2... a lot. I think Clash and Ramones are good bands, definitely not deserving such low positions... I’d say you don’t like punk very much, huh?
     
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  • Karter4
    Karter4
    3 jan 12
    I agree on everything except for:
    - Ramones: I don't like them that much either, but they've taught a lot to the punk bands that came after!
    - The Clash: may I ask what they did to you?! Why is that?! If you hate punk so much because you don't "understand" it, throwing shade is just plain stupid, let me tell you!
    - Green Day: they should definitely be punished for the last album, the fault lies with their immature fans too, but they’re not that bad.
    - Twisted Sister and Poison: I could understand the latter, but the former not at all! And here I want some explanations!
     
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  • Cogno
    Cogno
    26 feb 12
    The Edge fits in perfectly. What the hell does passion have to do with it? How do you measure it? It's just poor, that's all.
     
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  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    26 feb 12
    I agree
     
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  • ThePresident
    ThePresident
    26 feb 12
    The Edge has revolutionized the guitar with innovative sounds and a way of playing that is not technical but unique; anyone who insults him is a jerk.
     
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  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    26 feb 12
    Still with this story? But what has been revolutionized? The Edge may have his own personal style (quite intangible, by the way) but HE HAS NOT REVOLUTIONIZED A DAMN THING! Are we joking? Unbelievable 0-0
     
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  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    26 feb 12
    "The Edge has revolutionized the guitar with innovative sounds and a playing style that is not technical but unique." Really hilarious :D
     
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  • ThePresident
    ThePresident
    26 feb 12
    @hjhhjij: I find the nonsense you're spouting hilarious, a testament to a certain musical arrogance/ignorance. I say 'revolutionize' when someone starts doing things in a way that's very distant and different from what we're used to. The Edge incorporated delay (and various effects) as an integral part of building riffs, not just as a mere sonic embellishment. What would you have done instead?
     
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  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    26 feb 12
    I’m not a guitarist, so I don’t have to do anything :D The Edge, I repeat, you can like him as much as you want and no one can stop you, but it doesn't seem like a crime to challenge you. He hasn’t revolutionized anything (partially subjective opinion, partially not), there are other guitarists better than him, in technique, personal style, unique sound, and innovation. Did he introduce Delay and various effects? Good for him, but to me, he still falls short compared to many, many of his colleagues. Not for you though, you like him a lot. Amen, I don’t want to change your mind. Anyway, starting with "whoever contests him is a dickhead" isn’t nice. All I can say is that I find some of your statements hilarious because they don’t align with my thoughts at all and they’re quite "strong", but it's obviously said in a rather ironic and "jokey" tone. If your statement was also ironic, next time add a smiley because in these cases it's easy to create misunderstandings ;)
     
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  • ThePresident
    ThePresident
    26 feb 12
    You're not a guitarist, so if you don't mind, your opinion matters even less; just say that you don't like it, and that's it, I can accept that.
     
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  • ThePresident
    ThePresident
    26 feb 12
    I don't go judging a drummer by saying 'this is innovative,' 'this one can't play' because I'm not knowledgeable about it, so I can only express a modest subjective opinion with a 'I like it, it moves me' or 'it's not for me.'
     
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  • ThePresident
    ThePresident
    26 feb 12
    Some even insult Bono, saying that he can't sing, that he has a half-octave range, etc... it may not be to everyone's taste, but it's arrogant to suggest that he doesn't master technique and vocal style.
     
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  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    26 feb 12
    Bono has a beautiful voice; personally, I can't stand him, though :) Anyway, my opinions were absolutely subjective, that’s clear, and it’s equally clear that I didn’t explain myself well: I don’t like him at all, you like him a lot; however, the fact that I’m not a guitarist doesn’t stop me from explaining why I don’t like him, and I’ve already expressed my (subjective) reasons before. No arrogance or the classic "truth in my pocket," just an opposite stance to yours, because for me (and for others), he is none of what you think he is (and obviously, others do, too), but always FOR ME ;) It’s obvious and objective to me that there are better guitarists than him, but I accept that he is one of your favorite guitarists, without any problem. I evidently hadn’t explained myself well.
     
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  • Karter4
    Karter4
    26 feb 12
    Bono and Edge both suck. That's it, the matter is closed, the session is adjourned!
     
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  • Mr. Money87
    Mr. Money87
    5 aug 12
    What is a hunt for the intruder?!? I found it right away!
     
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  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    5 aug 12
    Me too, those who did "Bad Moon Rising." What did I win? XD
     
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    • Mr. Money87
      5 aug 12
      No, I won, sorry! You, at most, are second! XD
    • hjhhjij
      5 aug 12
      Okay, silver medal, I'll settle for that :D
    • ProgRock
      5 aug 12
      I am the Gold Medal!
    • hjhhjij
      6 aug 12
      But that was last year's edition XD
    • Mr. Money87
      6 aug 12
      Wow, I'm only second!! I officially protest against the false start of ProgRock!!! XD
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