easycure

But then it's nice: when you don't know what to say, you come out with some bullshit made up on the spot, just to say something new :-D ...terrifying

please, I want you to show me a, I mean one word that I would have copied from ondarock. Squonk, I wonder why I wasted time responding to you :-) look, you're really stepping outside the line as they say in Florence, you are truly sad.. anyway, you really seem like the fake Matt7, same nonsense thrown out there without the slightest understanding of the matter. Same bullshit with no head or tail. How pathetic..

an interesting viewpoint. Of course, from this perspective, these "quotes" still seem completely useless to me... obviously, the artistic premises do not hold any weight for me, but I understand what you mean, and I think it’s very logical (at least for a fan)... good for you that you’ve entered the workforce, I’m still struggling at university :-) ...I imagine it's quite a disorienting moment.

"Sonic Youth, like many other bands much more garage than rock, don't have the abilities to do it, and they make you believe they don't want to." But that's not true; practically nothing is true: it's not true that Sonic Youth are garage (garage? Garage?? Are we talking about the same thing? The genre of MC5 and Electric Prunes? What do Sonic Youth have to do with that??), and it's not true that they can't make suites; in Daydream Nation there’s one: "Trilogy." Moreover, we return to childish assumptions: what does it mean that a band wouldn't know how to make suites? That just because they can't make them, they can't create great music? So 90% of rock bands don't produce great music because (generally, we don't exactly know who decides this) they can't make suites. I am honestly dismayed.

everyone misses their own.. :-) but I don’t understand the comparison: what does "metropolis is another story" exactly mean? they are two albums that have nothing to do with each other, released 20 years apart. :-D

It's not exactly a pop album, really: the guitar style draws from the blues but takes it to an inverted extreme, with a neurotic and chameleonic style. Moreover, the ballad format or "mid-tempo" piece is rather influenced by the psychedelia of the Velvet Underground, of which Television plays a more "muted" sound-wise version. Their evocative theatricality completely references the psychedelic tradition: indeed, especially in the longer tracks, the theme of the "journey" is explicitly found; they are ecstatic evocations that are programmatically abulic, static, contemplated through the gaze of the heroin addict. Don't take it the wrong way, but they don't fit in at all with Supertramp.

Yes, I've read it.. and this is nice too: "It seems to me that most of the detractors of Dream Theater believe that you don't need to study to compose music, that music is just garage and LSD. Anyway, the comparison with Sonic is truly ridiculous and pretentious." Well.. I don't really think that music is only garage and LSD, but fortunately I'm also sure that it's not just DT; and therefore it isn't actually necessary to work your ass off at the Boston school to make great music :-) ..once again the genius Squonk, who knows he doesn't know, shows great open-mindedness: I particularly like the idea of study as a quality index; another banal a priori assumption that fanatics often use in defense of the DT champions. As if making suites weren't a choice. It’s not as if the doctor ordered it: there are at least 10,000 bands from 1960 to today that have made great music without making suites.. :-D

Brilliant then that line (I just read it now): "These kids don't even imagine how much compositional work goes into a suite like this" ah, so the logic is that the more one works on something, the more beautiful that something is.. what childish apriorisms.. how completely devoid of sense.. terrifying :-D

Ah, then what did muse91 say? That comparing Sonic Youth and DT is like comparing Finley to Hendrix? Damn, guys.. :-D Talk about subculture: here the average still thinks that the more technical something is, the more valuable it is.. we can't go any lower.. and Squonk comes to rave about Socrates.. please :-D

Subculture? How could it not be? Instead, it’s culture to relativize everything under the excuse that nothing is demonstrable. Of course, nothing is demonstrable, but this is such a banality that at least I took it for granted long ago. What is truly aberrant, however, is the totally ahistorical common sense (and therefore genuinely subcultural in the literal sense of the term) with which people try to validate their own beliefs. It's true that you can't absolutely say that DT sucks and that the Pixies are great, to go back to the previous diatribe. But to say there are no differences because everything is relative is one of those cosmic absurdities. When contextualized, everything makes sense: historically speaking, we talk about a group that desecrated and reformed punk by mixing dozens of different genres (yes, without any technical expertise) and created a schizophrenic style that told the story of an entire generation (the Pixies), and then we talk about another group that mixed two genres following in the footsteps of what others did twenty years earlier, musicians from the conservatory, etc., totally obscure and completely outside of any avant-garde and/or context (the DTs, and I’m simply describing them, no judgment). Everyone can use the references they want, of course; from this perspective, nobody questions relativity, but there are indeed differences—let’s not shoot cosmic nonsense.