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Well.. it was enough for me to write to him.. he is really very helpful, even though he is constantly around recording and not very reachable :-) thanks to everyone anyway, I was really eager to post it on Debaser!

Point 1) To say that Turn on the Bright Lights is an unconventional album, one must have heard very little, very little new wave (with all due respect), which would indeed explain quite well the sense of your post. Point 2) The review is indeed not very explanatory in this regard, but my comparison is not purely musical, or at least not explicitly so. Nevertheless, both bands share the exact same attitude: to take themes from the new wave, abstract them and decontextualize them, blending them with elements more typically rock (especially in terms of sound). The only tangible difference is that FF do it with purely hedonistic intent, while Interpol would have the pretension of doing it by also incorporating expressive themes typical of the more somber English new wave. Now, aside from the fact that over time and with the second album I have greatly devalued Interpol, who really don’t seem that creative to me, I think that at the time of the review, it was an important distinguishing factor that at least Interpol were among the first to try to reinterpret a certain sound.

it seems appropriate.

No, I don't know him.. but my reasoning in this case was much more straightforward and didn't have philosophical pretensions.. :-) rather, it was a simple phenomenological evaluation, but related to the humble field of many criticism writers. I think it’s generally important that there is someone to support what is beautiful and what is ugly, in the equally fundamental diversity of views, of course. I find excessive relativism in this field to be very dangerous.. and very dangerously post-modern.

yes yes, calm down Orion :-) ...what I still don't understand is why "climbing on mirrors" should entail claims of objectivity... it's obvious that if an analysis starts from contextual premises, it cannot help but give a comprehensive, systemic vision, thus tending toward objectivity. Equally clear is that this is an opinion and remains an opinion, but the "claims of objectivity" are ultimately a fundamental principle, if not THE fundamental principle, of every critique. How can one talk about what is beautiful and what is ugly without trying to demonstrate that, according to a certain point of view, something is beautiful or ugly? The very sense of these two terms wouldn’t even exist if they didn’t have a logical, therefore objective, claim at their base. It seems rather inevitable to me.

ehehehehehe... :-) sorry Orion, but I couldn't help but smile when I read that note among your latest posts "between one climb of mirrors and another.." :-D funny coming from the same person who, despite insisting, couldn't dismantle any of my examples (at most, I had to clarify them, it's all unequivocally written above): why still the need for such questionable and poorly substantiated clarifications? A bit of lingering resentment perhaps? :-D ..anyway, I notice that when it comes to changing opinions or evolving, you haven't budged an inch :-) (I'm saying this more for a laugh than anything else, eh.. no desire to reignite a polemic...)

X My generation: thank you! But I still haven't figured out whether we already know each other or if you're a new user... I’m thinking about the suspicions that Zion had (I can't remember which review) about your "identity" ;-)

X lux, I kind of messed up the conversation, but I wanted to say that I haven't listened to Ayreon yet.. :-) Butthole Surfers are a band you should listen to regardless, anyway I think that listening to them would do a lot of good for many DT fans ;-)

As far as I've tried, there's literally no comparison for music: Soulseek is amazing! You can find truly everything ;-)

listen to yourself...