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Ah! The analogy I meant: if a thief is told that stealing is wrong for his dignity (the rap seen by me is clashes between gangs), he will respond that my idea that stealing is wrong doesn’t hold because I don’t know the tricks of stealing (I cannot speak ill of rap because I don’t know it well enough; I mean, I don’t know all those who do it like Fibra, but I have a clear idea of rap, and I expressed it a little while ago... in short, since I don’t know the "tricks" of rap, I can’t speak ill of it.) Now you understand?

It's possible that there was a BeatBoy in the '60s saying "this is crap, better the jazz of the '40s"... but if there had been a BeatBoy in the '60s, today he would say "damn, I lived through the most creative period of music..." (:

Cool, I'm sorry but you can't hold your own argument; as soon as someone tells you something you're unable to respond to, you start with the whole kissing story... It's true I've made judgments, but I have my reasons, because certain things seen through my own eyes can appear this way... It's like telling a thief not to steal because it's wrong, when he will respond that my idea of not stealing doesn't hold because I don't know the tricks of how to steal... I don't know if I’m making sense...

mixed, what you’re saying is right. It’s true I don’t know A LOT about rap, but from what I see around (and I’m NOT TALKING ABOUT MTV) I’m convinced of what I said and what I think. About the statistics, it’s better that you explain: ZiOn I said that if you don’t like '60s Rock that’s your problem, it’s a matter of taste, but with that you can’t deny (the statistics...) that as a sociological and historical context that kind of music contributed to the development of certain things... damn, it’s in the history books, I’m not making it up.

No, I'm leaving, I've understood that the Internet is just like the street; you express your opinion and you're immediately mocked, because what is said is considered nonsense... okay, keep it up, well done, depriving people of expressing their thoughts...

ZiOn, you still don't understand... I didn't say that to be true musicians you have to go to conservatory, but I said that people who have studied or who have something more original and PROFESSIONAL to present, instead of a simple "yo", are not taken into account and consequently the person's art is offended... now do you understand?

If for you the '60s Rock is crap, that's your problem, because there are statistics to prove whether that type of Music was important or not... and the statistics are what they are and cannot be changed..

Cool, see, you also didn’t get anything... I don’t just listen to the Beatles... Okay, I’m not an expert in the genre, but the point remains this: subjects like this, like fiber, take away the opportunity for REAL MUSICIANS, WHO SPEND 5 TO 10 YEARS IN CONSERVATORY, TO THEN SEE THESE GOOD-FOR-NOTHINGS MAKING MONEY HAND OVER FIST LIKE IT’S NOTHING, JUST BY SAYING “YO”...

Yes, in fact, he came to light this year... and they shouted "phenomenon"... ZiOn, I have the impression that you are ignoring what I'm saying... I get it, you’re a rap fanatic, but that doesn’t mean that if I say that today’s rap (because the rap of the '90s, I repeat, was a real form of protest, while today, coincidentally, anyone can rap...) is just crap, I don't understand music... like some here want me to believe...

"and now has taken on a musical direction that doesn’t suit me at all." ZiOn, because has Fiber ever had a musical line? What I'm saying is that the music of the '60s and '70s, in terms of musical ideas, ways of thinking, and composing music—along with the fusion of music, cinema, and painting—were two unique decades. It’s clear that there were also nonsense back then. The substance of our "debate" lies in seeing how long this clown lasts; can you explain to me why in school books, in the section dedicated to Italian music, PFM, Lucio Battisti, and others are mentioned? I’ll tell you why: because they created new things that have remained indelible. And tell me, has this "musical phenomenon" of Fiber done anything indelible? NO! In his "pieces," he talks about women who are prostitutes (and instead of standing against this situation, he supports it by saying that women like pimps...) and you exalt him for this? My dear, this is no longer about music but about human morality... I don’t know if you understand me... Just wait, in a month this "phenomenon" will be forgotten by everyone... And if I have to talk about Italian rap, I prefer Caparezza and Frankie Hi-Nrg much more, because in their lyrics, they know what to say, even though I know them little...