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Metallica Death Magnetic
Metallica Death Magnetic
7 sep 08
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Ah, the "heavy of Sabbathian memory" has become "proto metal"... "The heavy darkening of Motorbreath"?! But if it's three minutes of 4/4 straight from start to finish?! Don't bring up Anesthesia, since Burton's trippy soul is well known. Let's talk about the actual tracks. If you want to tell me that Phantom Lord sounds like it was written by Lemmy, I can agree. If you want to say that the intro of Jump In The Fire seems to have been written in some garage on the outskirts of London at the end of the '70s, I can go along with that too. But I really can't envision Iommi going wild moshing on stage. <<It's not a question of Grand Prix between so-called "metal" bands>> No. Instead, it is precisely a Grand Prix issue. My reasoning is very simple: Metallica are often seen as the sole heirs to certain merits that, in my opinion, should be fairly shared with other bands that the same metal fans often disdain. One of these "merits" is precisely that of being the "first." Well, your own comments help demonstrate that this is inaccurate or, at the very least, not entirely true.
Metallica Death Magnetic
Metallica Death Magnetic
7 sep 08
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@Blackdog: apart from the fact that the "heavy of Sabbathian memory" (?!?!?) has nothing to do with it, I think you didn't read my comment carefully. You say they bastardized Uncle Lemmy's lesson?! Maybe, but they weren't the first or the only ones. And, in any case, according to your reasoning, they wouldn't have invented anything, since they just took something already heard and exaggerated it. Slayer - almost contemporaries of Hetfield and friends - bastardized the NWOBHM lesson and in a very short time brought it to levels of exacerbation/extremization far beyond what the Metallica have done. So?! According to your reasoning, they should be even cooler, right?!
Metallica Death Magnetic
Metallica Death Magnetic
7 sep 08
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@Stoney: honestly, I didn’t understand where you want to go with this. Besides, I myself put "bad" in quotes in my comment, so what the hell do I care about the concept of wickedness?!? I was discussing an album and a band, not the concept of "sonic aggression" or mental gymnastics like that: I used the adjective "bad," but I could have used, I don’t know, "dark," "tight," or any of 200 others! <<"Wickedness is a rather vague concept">>... thanks, really, I’d never thought of that. But then I didn’t understand what you mean... Is the metal in general ridiculous, or would the Metallica never make fools of themselves and other bands do?! I mean, do you really think the lyrics of Kill 'Em All are not laughable?! "The breath of the engine is how I live my life," "Endless war," "The 4 horsemen are coming to take your life" seem just as ridiculous as "I am the antichrist, all love is lost, madness is what I am, my soul will rot for eternity." Expressing wickedness with a hard sound is banal... it can be, in fact, I agree... but what the hell does that have to do with it???? We're talking about Metallica, heavy metal, and Kill 'Em All here. Not the concept of sonic aggression applied to music in general... whatever!
Metallica Death Magnetic
Metallica Death Magnetic
7 sep 08
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@Icnarf: it's just a good debut, which, due to a series of historical and record label contingencies, has risen to the status of a milestone, an essential album. Many overlook the fact that: 1) it is not really a pure thrash album, as the punk-hardcore influences (Hit The Lights, Whiplash and, in general, the vocals) and NWOBHM are clearly evident; 2) it’s an album that suffers from a general tendency to overlength (tell me that the 7 minutes and more of The Four Horsemen and Seek & Destroy, just to name a few, blow your mind from start to finish even after ten listens and I’ll buy you a beer); 3) the credit for being the "first" is often attributed to these four horsemen, but that’s not entirely true. Exodus is practically contemporary – if not even earlier – but they were unfortunate enough to debut later. The same Show No Mercy (another good debut) was released only a few months later, but sounds decidedly more "ferocious" and sulfurous than "Chi l'è mòl". And this is just sticking to the United States, without bringing Celtic Frost and the European scene into the mix. I believe we should have the courage to admit one thing: Metallica have always played (when they did) a thrash that's much more approachable, more melodic, and less hardline compared to almost all the other bands in the scene. And this has been a fundamental component of their intergalactic success, almost as much as the actual quality of their productions. Not by chance, they are one of the few bands that even people who don’t listen to metal enjoy. There are plenty of people who listen to Metallica without batting an eye, only to then turn their noses up in disgust at Slayer, Forbidden, and the entire German scene. I don’t want to label them as "commercial" or nonsense like that. It’s just that it’s almost impossible to find catchy tracks in any other thrash metal album of that era, like Fade To Black, Welcome Home, or even just Creeping Death or For Whom The Bell Tolls. I'm not saying it's wrong, mind you; it’s just a matter of attitude: Slayer, for example, waited four albums before inserting an arpeggio into one of their songs. And when they did (with Spill The Blood on South Of Heaven), they managed to keep every bit of their ferocity.
Metallica Death Magnetic
Metallica Death Magnetic
6 sep 08
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@cptgaio: hi!!! how are you?! I'm really glad to see you here!;)) Look, it's not my intention to discredit or diminish the role of the 4 vacari. They were an excellent thrash group, in fact, I can say that the bands at their level within the genre, and in that particular historical period, can be counted on one hand. What I criticize/don't understand is the attitude of their fans and those who are ready to idolize them, claiming every time that they were the champions/founders of a genre (the thrash metal of the '80s), which those very fans often show they snub. I repeat: if we want to be generous, Hetfield and the guys made 4 thrash metal albums, more or less good. Then came 4 albums that, I would say peaceably, have little or nothing to do with thrash, and when they do, they do it very poorly. Let’s also add that Justice, the last great album, which is even invoked as a benchmark to evaluate this latest release, is 19 years old. Oh my: those don't seem exactly like mind-blowing numbers, for a cornerstone band of the genre, an undisputed pillar of thrash metal. What I'm saying is: both while the 4 jokers were active and throughout the time they have been raking in money, there have been bands that released excellent thrash albums, of course, they remained ignored. All this time, Metallica fans have continued to complain about the productions of their idols, only to then buy all their crummy albums and fill stadiums at €60 a concert... In short: who knows! I'm off to see IMpaled Nazarene! have a good evening everyone!
Metallica Death Magnetic
Metallica Death Magnetic
6 sep 08
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@tatto: exactly, you downloaded it. But the album is coming out on September 12th. Since we’re not talking about the first Heathen (stuff that’s pretty much impossible to find today, released twenty years ago), maybe it would have been wise to wait for the album release before judging it, for better or worse. And, above all, maybe it’s worth listening to it PROPERLY before writing a review that claims to provide an objective judgment (especially if it’s as harsh as in this case). That said, I reiterate my perplexity regarding the aficionados of the 4 shit-shovelers. I mean: do you really want (I’m speaking generally, not referring to anyone in particular) your favorite band to sound like they did 20 years ago?! But you’ve complained endlessly about Slayer for always doing the same thing! In the end, what have Metallica done?! 1 masterpiece (Master), 2 excellent albums (Justice and Ride), and a good debut. The rest?! Everyone agrees that it’s garbage. Yet you’re still “hoping for a return to the sound of their origins” (?!?!) I repeat: do you like those sounds? There are DOZENS of bands that have made equally beautiful albums. How many of you know Heresy by Paradox: it's a photocopy of Master of Puppets, I swear, yet it doesn’t seem that there are dozens of reviews about that album. In short: rather than demanding that these 4 oldies do what they used to do when they were 20, maybe it would suffice to deepen your understanding of that genre, right?!
Metallica Death Magnetic
Metallica Death Magnetic
6 sep 08
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No. The Coroner have little to do with technothrash. In their recent albums, they displayed an excellent technical level, but theirs is more aptly described as "avantgarde thrash." Usually, the true godfathers of technothrash are referred to as Watchtower.
Metallica Death Magnetic
Metallica Death Magnetic
6 sep 08
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Let's do it this way: I'll take 300 on consignment. I'll start selling them around Cascina Gobba in Milan, with a markup of 8-9%, net of expenses. I'll give myself a month: if the business works, I'll take another 500.
Metallica Death Magnetic
Metallica Death Magnetic
6 sep 08
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Why do you always have to use all those swear words?! But isn't the album coming out next week?! Why are there already two reviews?! How many times did you listen to it before reviewing it?! And I still don't get what the hell you "fans" of Metallica want... Do you really want them to go back to making the stuff from 20 years ago?! Is it so hard to listen to the music from 20 years ago? I once met a guy at a concert: he was a mega fan of these 4 idiots, kept telling me he couldn't wait for these 4 boars to come back and make thrash, etc. And then it turned out he had at most a dozen thrash albums at home. Thrash, thrash, thrash... and when you think about it, these guys have made, what, 2, maybe 3 albums of pure thrash. I don't know... I just don't get it.
Kiss the Anus of a Black Cat An Interlude to the Outermost
Kiss the Anus of a Black Cat An Interlude to the Outermost
5 sep 08
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Why are all these people here?! Why all these comments?! Why aren’t we all in FrancescoSeta’s review sharing our opinions down below, in his review on Cilmi?
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