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Well, it's always better than a little punk who stands on the left because it’s very punk and alternative, right?

And Broken-Fixed?

No, the limited edition vinyl of Lateralus has been released. The new one is coming soon.

Yes, I like how you put it and I agree. For example, I spit on the first of the NIN, which now sounds like Power-Pop; those who listened to it in '89 were amazed, but when I picked it up, it just seemed to me like a pop vision of Broken or TDS. This is the same example but with reversed evaluations.

I think like you but I evaluate it differently. You said it perfectly when you said, "it seems to me that with this album, MP has started to think about Fantomas." Exactly, he should have calmed down a bit; nothing happens if he doesn't make his 6 albums a year. There are people who make an album every five years; if he doesn't make six, he's not happy. He should have waited, nurtured the idea better, committed himself, and worked hard on it. Instead, he took four vague half-ideas and passed them off as a concept, confident that if anyone wanted to tell him to fuck off, they'd think twice given the presence of Ribot & Zorn on the Tzadik label. It was a commercial move to gauge his fans' reactions; he was probing his target audience because he was about to open his own record label and wanted to understand "how far his audience's tastes went." I've always had a negative view of this album. Sometimes when discussing Patton, I say I haven't listened to it just to hear what others think without being influenced by my negative judgment, and sometimes I hear people shouting "masterpiece"... when it's just a collection of burps. I will never get tired of saying this: if this album were made by the Strokes, the entire world would have vomited on it; instead, Zorn made it, so the more senseless it is, the more it's considered a masterpiece... in my opinion, no. A masterpiece is Grand Guinol, masterpieces are those of Masada, a masterpiece is disco volante, this absolutely is not. I’m for deconstruction, not for the absolute lack of structure; this thing doesn’t start anywhere and certainly doesn't arrive anywhere. Four good ideas (like nutrient noises, I also like that, for example) surrounded by absolute nothingness, and when I think that it’s the result of three geniuses, it annoys me :D.

I don't agree at all. Since we’re talking about tribute to noise and the avant-garde, they should have put in more effort. I have everything from these people, so let's say I "think I know what they are capable of," and in this album, in my opinion, they are just goofing off, no effort at all... just some nonsense thrown out there. That it's better than billions of albums is obvious since we're talking about Patton, Zorn & Ribot, but it doesn't make sense to compare Zorn to Cremonini, right? I'm not saying that "noise is crap," this album is "a very bad noise album" that, on top of that, has the presumption to serve as a tribute to the genre itself. They remain three geniuses, and noise remains a great musical resource, but this episode is one to forget since they were just "working on the sounds" for "Amenaza Al Mundo," which is really a great noise album, not this thing here. :)

You also have that know-it-all attitude, with your "I'm more than sure," when you don’t even know who or what you’re talking about. Someone who categorizes masterpieces of psychedelia under "weird noises" hasn’t graduated middle school, at least mentally.

It was a quote from the album, Puglia :D. The essential essentials essentials are Aenima & Lateralus. This is beautiful, but they have definitely surpassed it since then.

In fact, it classified it under Dance-Power Pop, right? Come on, it didn't seem like blasphemy to me, just a comparison, and I think it fits. That this is just a very basic pop album and that SY - MBV are monsters, I don't think anyone doubts it. Plus, she's hot, come on Luk, don't get angry, you'll get wrinkles in the summer. :D

Zion is on drugs.