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Area 1978: Gli dei se ne vanno, gli arrabbiati restano!
Area 1978: Gli dei se ne vanno, gli arrabbiati restano!
3 aug 05
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This thing about solos for their own sake, you need to explain it to me, okay? Can you tell me why Jimi Hendrix's solos are good while Robert Fripp's ones are not? Also, the word PLAYING means using a musical instrument to produce sounds; what's so wrong with producing 10,000 sounds a second? I think that the proggarelli were playing, the punkettoni tried to do it with poor results. "For their own sake" is the biggest bullshit circulating in music circles. "For their own sake" is Steve Vai, who is alone and therefore does whatever he wants; that’s PURE VIRTUOSITY. But Robert Fripp, who intertwines his virtuosity with that of Bruford, is called HARMONY, it's called STYLE, it's called MAKING MUSIC, and there’s not a damn thing about "for its own sake" in a PROG BAND. If you want to tell me that Satriani is unbearable, I’ll high-five you, but he's an SHOW-OFF, not a BAND.
Area 1978: Gli dei se ne vanno, gli arrabbiati restano!
Area 1978: Gli dei se ne vanno, gli arrabbiati restano!
3 aug 05
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For what reason are they ends in themselves? What differentiates the virtuosity of Jimi Hendrix from that of Van der Graaf? Explain this mystery to me because I just don’t get it. I've already told you about Sonic Youth, don't they play solos of PURE DISTORTION? And who invented these solos? Come on, make me laugh, they are by Hendrix, Gilmour, or various stuff or Sid Vicious? And maybe you want to tell me that Sonic Youth would be Sonic Youth without the distortions generated by machines that are purely rock and used by rock of the '70s? They wouldn't have done more than a demo if they didn't use distortions, and DISTORTIONS ARE ROCK; THEY DON'T HAVE A DAMN THING TO DO WITH PUNK.
Area 1978: Gli dei se ne vanno, gli arrabbiati restano!
Area 1978: Gli dei se ne vanno, gli arrabbiati restano!
3 aug 05
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But since we're at it, I wanted to emphasize this bullshit -> "Take Led Zeppelin, damn, they come off as crazy, pissed off, hellish..." NOW TELL ME WHERE, HOW, WHEN AND WHY THE ZEPPELIN GAVE YOU THIS IMPRESSION. Guys, seriously, what the hell do you think about 70s music? Hellish Robert Plant? And Jimmy Page? Have you ever seen them live? At the Rose Bowl in 1970, Page stepped on stage in jeans, white sneakers, a white shirt, and a sleeveless sweater with yellow and blue diamonds... WHERE DO YOU SEE HELLISH & PISSED OFF?
Area 1978: Gli dei se ne vanno, gli arrabbiati restano!
Area 1978: Gli dei se ne vanno, gli arrabbiati restano!
3 aug 05
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And again you change the subject! What do Led Zeppelin have to do with it? I'm talking about PROG, and there are millions of bad and meaningful lyrics (unlike the random "Fuck You" bullshit) — read the lyrics of Stormy Six, Consorzio Acqua Potabile, Area, and see if they aren't a million times harsher than a fucking "God Save the Queen." Gioia & Rivoluzione, for example, speaks about the joy of political change in Stratos' Greece of those years and the Portuguese revolution, but being intelligent people, they used metaphors and synonyms to make everything more artistic. The failed punks had neither the culture nor the vocabulary nor the taste to do such things, and they limited themselves to "Fuck You," limited, inept, useless, failures = shit.
Area 1978: Gli dei se ne vanno, gli arrabbiati restano!
Area 1978: Gli dei se ne vanno, gli arrabbiati restano!
3 aug 05
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Indeed, what is it called? Noise Rock or Noise Punk? I believe it's noise-rock, so your point doesn't make sense in a discussion about Punk. Let's not change the subject, come on, how's the new one from Social Distortion? Nice, right? And what about the one from Bad Religion? Even better, I’d say…
Area 1978: Gli dei se ne vanno, gli arrabbiati restano!
Area 1978: Gli dei se ne vanno, gli arrabbiati restano!
3 aug 05
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I can grant you "boring" because it's a matter of taste, BUT it's a different thing to say "boring" from "Exaggerated Virtuosity." So, as usual, change the subject because you don't know what the hell to say, but I enjoy this discussion, so let's have it: Regarding the fact that it made history, we can add a big "so what?" to that—New Kids On The Block also made history giving rise to Take That, NSYNC, and so on, all the way to Blue; that doesn’t change the fact that both the grandparents and the grandchildren suck. Punk, in its purest sense, is all the same; what you call "generated by punk" isn’t punk, it’s deconstructed rock. The noise of Sonic Youth draws more from the distorted virtuosities of Jimi Hendrix than from the nonsense of Sid Vicious, so it can't be defined as punk but rather as rock that's been “pankized” a bit, but it’s rock, not punk. The mere act of using super fuzz pedals and other such gadgets is a sign of appreciation for what came before, namely the hard rock of the '70s—Page, Iommi, and various others—there is no rejection of what came before, therefore it isn't punk.
Al Mukawama Al Mukawama
Al Mukawama Al Mukawama
3 aug 05
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It's Zulù's fault if you're the sampyr, saying those things: that guy is such a jerk that he gets young rappers upset and makes them stop thinking.
Area 1978: Gli dei se ne vanno, gli arrabbiati restano!
Area 1978: Gli dei se ne vanno, gli arrabbiati restano!
3 aug 05
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Have you heard the latest album by Social Distortion? Do you think it has changed at all from the first album? Does their recycling deserve to be called music? Or do we want to stoop to the low levels of Bad Religion, who every two or three years come out with the same album, just changing the cover? That's really copy-paste.
Area 1978: Gli dei se ne vanno, gli arrabbiati restano!
Area 1978: Gli dei se ne vanno, gli arrabbiati restano!
3 aug 05
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Again with these random phrases: Give me names of bands and names of albums where the exaggerated virtuosity you’re talking about is present; anyone can throw stuff around randomly. You know why I say what Voodoo says is bullshit? First of all, because Jimi Hendrix would also spend 6 minutes straight in virtuosity, so I don’t get why he can be liked while others can’t. And then because in jazz there are eighty-four million virtuosos per "song," yet it doesn't seem to bother anyone. Oh, maybe you’re right, but let’s talk about concrete foundations, names of bands and names of albums, give a list instead of spouting bullshit out of thin air.
Röyksopp The Understanding
Röyksopp The Understanding
3 aug 05
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No problem, after all, her skin is burnt from all the nonsense she rubs against, (she's a corporate cat) I need to wash her just to get rid of the crusts, no ph :D
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