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I've always hated it, an absolutely disappointing rock n roll album. Good rock, tight, badass... zero psychedelia though. Not even comparable to those that came before, for me it's the worst Magnet album, the beginning of the end. 25...Tab, now that’s an album :)

I'm not really that into Emerson Lake & Palmer, you know, just for the record.

Being that progressive rock is a genre that inherently aimed to move forward as much as possible, how can the anonymous person say "he has gone beyond prog"? There is no "beyond," nor is there "changing," since there are no objective canons to outline the genre as one can do when stepping outside of it. The Crimson have always made music completely different from the Area, for example, and yet both are called prog, precisely because it is not a genre but an attitude. Therefore, the anonymous person can refrain from spouting ridiculous nonsense like "Fripp renounces the prog sound," because the prog sound does not exist; thus, to say such nonsense, dear anonymous, there’s always rock wave.

Ah, what can I think of Miller? :D In the 80s, he wrote 50% of Davis's music, he wrote 80% of tutù... I think he’s quite good, come on! :)))

"He was the archetype of the rock bassist," unfortunately that's where the limit lies; in rock, the bass is the least appreciated instrument. I don't know, it's like saying "Miura was the greatest Japanese footballer," and sure, he was great, but you can't compare him to the best Italian or Brazilian footballer because they are on "higher levels." More than Jaco's pieces, for me, Ricky, you should listen to the Weather Report; that's where you realize the difference between Jaco and any regular bassist. I would never trade my Jaco for any regular bassist. /// As for Jazz Fusion on the fly, I'd say Live Evil by Miles Davis, Black Market by the Weather Report, Headhunters by Hancock, Spectrum by Billy Cobham. But at least tomorrow I could tell you more; it’s a genre too full of beautiful things :)

Fuck, I googled Manring, and in ALL HIS BIOGRAPHIES it first says where he was born, then the year, and in EVERY SINGLE ONE it states in the first line: STUDENT OF PASTORIUS. Some write "the legendary Pastorius," some write "the Unmatched," that asshole Scaruffi doesn't use any adjectives but he's an asshole, and there's not much to do about it. Google Ricky, have a laugh too after the ones you made me have, right?

And now I’ll let you in on a secret, Ricky. Do you know who taught Manring how to use the bass? Huh? Jaco. Miky was Jaco's best student; he’s a monster, damn it, that’s a real score, not RHCP or The Who (only in terms of bass, mind you, no one touch Moon or Pete)... but can we not throw in a thanks for that? He learned directly from the greatest, not from video methods. Come on, when something is obvious, it’s obvious, for heaven's sake.

Well, you see, you also place him at the top, Odra! Anyway, when I say "the greatest," I wasn't talking about "the best," I wasn't talking about songs or "I like so-and-so" "so-and-so plays well." Jaco completely revolutionized the way of playing, so he is the greatest, no way around it, objective data: before, people played one way, then another. Jaco was the first and only one to do concerts of SIXTY minutes of solo bass without boring anyone, others didn't, so he was the greatest. One night Jaco took the pliers and removed the frets, others didn't, so he was the greatest. Jaco was the first to create sublime melodies fine and harmonized to the max, others didn't. As for personal taste, I choose him too, but there are no certain data there, and you can also shoot randomly like rickyfrusciante does, no one says anything, if he can't stand the greatest and picks the less appreciated just because it sounds so chic, good for him. However, John Entwistle was an excellent bassist in the background, EXCELLENT, but in the background. Come on, what's so special about the bass in The Who? Give me a break, some decency at least. Then Flea... he has been doing the same things since 1985 and hardly uses any fingers other than his thumb, and if he detached the last two strings it would be the same since he doesn't use them. Then ricky, even in his genre, while being EXCELLENT (let’s be clear, he’s not awful) there’s a Mr. LES CLAYPOOL who gives him a run for his money, beard, hair, goatee, and fade. Come on, Flea can only slap and he does it even worse than Les, with the small detail that Les uses every type of bass in every type of context, Flea has only been doing "peom poppeon" since 1985, and until 2020 he will still be doing "peom poppeon" because there are those who hype the fact that at the first note you say "it's Flea!" Thanks a lot for that, it's all the same.

And who has been better than Jaco? On bass, there’s no one like him, there’s no best drummer, no best singer, nor the best of anything except for Bass. The bass was just a background instrument, then Jaco came along, and it became THE BASS. Come on, it’s obvious and objective to define Jaco as the best; all the best bassists in the world say so. Let's be real, Jaco invented it all; people play, Jaco invented. Ricky Frusciante, if you say "Flea" I’ll laugh for three months, please tell me so I can have a good laugh. But about Odra, I’m curious: Dave Holland? Wooten? Or a rock one… Butler? JP Jones? My favorite rock bassist is Jack Bruce, just for the record. But who is better than Jaco? /// Regarding Joni, I agree that I prefer Mingus above all.

Well, if you don’t like Gentle Giants, and if for you they were just a means to an end, you’d better just do like the anonymous one and say "prog crap." For me, the GG are enormous; if you don’t like them, there’s little to discuss. But I’m not mocking you; you’re the one throwing out random phrases. If we talk, let’s talk about concrete data, don’t make up songs that are 31 minutes long with two 15-minute solos. Talking about fantasy makes me lose interest. Explain one last thing to me: according to which mental block should I not bring Robert Fripp into the conversation when talking about Prog? What sense does it make to say "don’t bring Fripp into it"? We’re talking about Prog—how can I not bring up the king of prog guitar? Eh :D