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Fats Domino Here Comes Fats
Fats Domino Here Comes Fats
7 sep 05
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Alright Giorgio, let's talk about music then... do you know who the determined drummer is?
Fats Domino Here Comes Fats
Fats Domino Here Comes Fats
7 sep 05
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High water because I was talking about innovations in a specific instrument, like "Giuseppe invented Fingerpicking, Giangiulio invented the pedal"... nonsense like that, which I know is a silly little game, but there’s a white drummer who has outperformed a lot of people. As for the point you made, you’re absolutely right; I had even removed Gil Evans, which is why I told you that you’re cool. I felt hit by that :D
Fats Domino Here Comes Fats
Fats Domino Here Comes Fats
7 sep 05
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Well, then go back to making pun school, right?
Fats Domino Here Comes Fats
Fats Domino Here Comes Fats
7 sep 05
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Oh, you’re so cool: not everyone knows Gil Evans.
Fats Domino Here Comes Fats
Fats Domino Here Comes Fats
7 sep 05
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Wrong suggester, high water to the max.
Fats Domino Here Comes Fats
Fats Domino Here Comes Fats
7 sep 05
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Always bearing in mind that the drummer, even though he has innovated, still comes from a black Jazz background.
Fats Domino Here Comes Fats
Fats Domino Here Comes Fats
7 sep 05
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Ah, it's true Socrates, then I also had another discussion: the most innovative (which doesn't mean better, you insist on making assessments, but I’m talking about innovations or "inventions") representatives of each “more or less classic” instrument of those specific genres (meaning that I’m not including the Moog and subsequent ones) apart from the bass are Black. Or Socrates, do you think there have been White guitarists, double bassists, pianists, drummers, trumpet players who have innovated 20th-century music (still within the genres defined in the review) more than their Black counterparts? There is just one White drummer who stands out (besides Benson, whom I already mentioned, but he was only the first to use the double bass drum, not like it was anything extraordinary), tell me which one, and maybe explain why... oh, just trying to spark a conversation, you know.
Fats Domino Here Comes Fats
Fats Domino Here Comes Fats
7 sep 05
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Elvis is from the 50s, you're completely missing the point: The point is that the first, but I mean the very first, the very very first… were Black, period. It's not my intention to give individual credit to this or that person, it's not my intention to limit it to just one person, but simply to say that those sounds are of Black origin, that's all. You've listed all names from the 50s, but the 50s is already a bit late for the discussion I'm having, and I don't mean to say "my argument is right, yours isn't," I just say "I'm making this argument... what about you?"
Fats Domino Here Comes Fats
Fats Domino Here Comes Fats
7 sep 05
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In the OTHER instruments, the first ones are all black; I ate another one in the end.
Fats Domino Here Comes Fats
Fats Domino Here Comes Fats
7 sep 05
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It's not about American music in general but the creation of specific genres (and I've already repeated this six times, we're talking about who created them; it's obvious that there are white jazz musicians), Dr. John's records are from the '50s and '60s if I'm not mistaken; he arrived late by just half a century and a bit, nothing special, right? What does it mean 50-70 years? I'd say he's among the founders, oh, definitely a pioneer. We’re not talking about responsibility for disasters but about mismanagement of disasters that happened due to bad luck, specific phrases said during press conferences broadcasted worldwide. Anyway, just to bring the discussion back to music: Dr. John is a white mosquito in the sea of a genre that is black to the core; for every Dr. John, there are 148,000 black musicians who are kicking butt, not that Doc is inept—quite the opposite—but in a discussion focused on the great creators and/or innovators and/or major figures of Jazz, with all due respect, he ranks 97th. The only white musician who truly made a mark in that genre is Jaco; there are indeed great white artists (Colajuta, Bill Evans, that unknown guy from the Cologne concert, etc.), but the only white musician who really innovated in his instrument is Jaco, and in the instruments, the first ones are all black. Or not?
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