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Aeneas, sure you can say that for you mashuggah is crap, period... but still, you don’t think about it. Not thinking about it, how do you find a fair and wise absolute value scale, and therefore, it is presumed, well reasoned? In my opinion, what you said at the beginning, that a composition by Beethoven is better than Interstellar Overdrive, is a huge load of crap. And not because Interstellar is better, far from it, but it’s not even better than Beethoven. They are different, plain and simple, 5 for both. And true music, doesn’t exist for crying out loud.
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Hal, I completely agree with your latest post since you think like me after all. One could say that there is "the highest evolution of this musical form" (in this case, classical piano), and that's fine, I'm on board with that. What I say does not exist is comparing classical piano with Hendrix's guitar. Each is king in its own field, and there are terms of evaluation relative to specific fields. But there is no absolute term of evaluation for all music, as Enea claims, rating Meshuggah a 1 and Davis a 5, which in my opinion cannot be compared, simply put.
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Anyway, the next time we all get together to snack on a review, at least one mom has to prepare the snack for everyone. For crying out loud. (for me, Nutella, thanks)
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No Enea, you forgot a little footnote. You asked me to be serious, and for once I was, but always reiterating that it's less fun, and that there is no point because it's useless. Since I'm here to have fun, I won't be serious anymore, and when I see a review of Nofx, 1 flat. And I don't care if they are the Leaders of MeloPunk, 1 flat. No, because you haven't pulled out the punk weapon against me yet, you've forgotten it, for me punk=1 by default. But I already have my response ready: Punk = simplified rock, so crap rock, thus 1 flat. Until next time.
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Josi_, it depends on the genre. The Daleks today are the best in Eminem's rap because they use violent sounds in contrast to a slow and fluid metric, something never seen or heard before. They employ unconventional tempos and have an incredible variety of beats, in addition to dealing with interesting and public domain themes. Eminem has been using the same meter for five albums; the beats are always the same ones that Dr. Dre has been making for 20 years, and he talks about the girls he sleeps with and how much he can’t stand his mom, which he couldn’t care less about. So now, the Daleks are the best, let’s say... but the Heads are also the best Acid Rockers... and how the hell do you compare Heads & Dalek? On tastes, which are subjective, so: pippone.
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Mr. Green, you’re still not here... I was just giving an example. It’s not like I’m putting the helicopter on Coltrane, come on, lighten up a bit. We’re trying to reach a galactic brainstorm of absolute value systems here and you take every bullshit literally? Come on :D /// Antimo, I’m not getting it at all, but I’m glad you’re with me; wanking by myself is so sad, with group wanking it feels like going back to the good old middle school days.
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And anyway, Aeneas, I want to make it clear that I've never ranked anything from two different contexts, not even jokingly. I give a solid 5 to Mos Def, 5 to Meshuggah, and 5 to Miles Davis, all undisputed maximum scores. Then I can give 4 to Cypress Hill, 4 to Slayer, and 4 to Wayne Shorter, but I still compare every musical proposal on the same ground. You suggest an absolute ranking, and in my opinion, it doesn’t exist.
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How can you set logical boundaries to music when Matteo Brutal shows up and says, "damn, these guys are crushing it, masterpiece damn!". You can't, come on, and then you have more fun with the pipponi.
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Well, Antimo, you're right when you talk about axioms. In music, indeed, there are no axioms. There is no 1+1=2. Let's give some examples, shall we? Medicine: if your heart stops... you die. Seems like a pretty proven point to me. In music, the only proven point is that if you don’t play, you don’t produce any sound. Doesn’t seem like much of an axiom, does it? :D
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Green, I specified clearly: SOUNDS. I’m not saying that a computer sounds better than Coltrane; I'm talking about sound. Coltrane, as much as he was a God on earth, couldn’t reproduce the sound of a helicopter; a computer can make the sound of a helicopter, a rubber duck, and a kalamazoo. You take a live recording of Coltrane, plug it into a computer, and modify it by layering things on top that Coltrane couldn’t do because he was a human being... and I like it more. But that doesn’t mean a computer is better than Coltrane; they are just two different things. Coltrane with the Sax couldn’t do a "gwwwiooon gwwwiiuuuigfnwiiewwonnfff," but I’m not judging him from that perspective. That’s why I can’t compare Faust with Coltrane; they are two Gods in two different fields of action. Neither is better than the other; they are different.