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Kraftwerk - Organisation Tone Float
Kraftwerk - Organisation Tone Float
29 nov 05
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No no, every time you take examples that don't fit and completely distort the meaning: I haven't discovered a thing, I thought that Neu! & Kraftwerk were the same thing, so I liked Neu! and I liked Kraftwerk because I believed they were the same. Then I found out that one was Gianni & Pinotto, and the other Dinger & Rother, but I didn't discover a band or an album; I already knew the albums, I just discovered they weren't the same people. Let me give you a tangible example: Richie Hawtin. Richie Hawtin under his 90,000 nicknames also makes some crap, but he can't get on my nerves because under Plastikman and F.U.S.E. he makes great records. Yes, he also goes to dance clubs playing half-commercial House, but he remains the one who makes great records. If one day I found out that Hawtin actually pays his grandma to make records under Plastikman and F.U.S.E., then he would get on my nerves, and his grandma would be the world leader of Techno. But since his grandma is doing something else and not making Techno records, for me, Hawtin can do whatever he wants, and I’ll still like him as long as between one crap and another, he pulls out great records from Plastikman and F.U.S.E. (which, just to be clear, is still him alone). This is an example that fits, not your transformations that have nothing to do with it.
Kraftwerk - Organisation Tone Float
Kraftwerk - Organisation Tone Float
29 nov 05
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Well, if you start scratching and denying the obvious, we'll meet at the torres. You need to listen to them with the stereo on; if you only watch the CD spinning without letting the sounds come out of the speakers, it’s hard to find the similarities.
Kraftwerk - Organisation Tone Float
Kraftwerk - Organisation Tone Float
29 nov 05
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You pull out a "Nice" from nowhere, without any "ah" or "bah," and make it a stellar case? Nice, yes, but Neu!2 just rolls it over in a somersault.
Kraftwerk - Organisation Tone Float
Kraftwerk - Organisation Tone Float
29 nov 05
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Of course, Bello is radio activity... but Bello doesn't mean it anticipated Techno, which is the leading group in the history of electronic music, and so on and so forth. Up until a year ago, I even liked them; then I discovered that the Neu!, who were introduced to me by saying "this is a side project of Kraftwerk," were actually Neu! and not a side project of Kraftwerk, but a schism from a previous formation. Since that day, I sided with Dinger & Rother. As a child, I used to say that the best movie in the world was The Goonies, but that doesn't mean I think so now.
Kraftwerk - Organisation Tone Float
Kraftwerk - Organisation Tone Float
29 nov 05
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What a drag you are... you can never argue in peace with you. Have a more combative spirit. I'll read the second episode tomorrow after it stops raining.
Kraftwerk - Organisation Tone Float
Kraftwerk - Organisation Tone Float
29 nov 05
Voto:
And yet it begins... damn, hire a secretary to type your thoughts.
Kraftwerk - Organisation Tone Float
Kraftwerk - Organisation Tone Float
29 nov 05
Voto:
A separate discussion for Can: Can, along with Neu! and Kraftwerk, have nothing to do with one another, Can played Rock—if you want to call it progressive, or space, or psychedelic—but with Kraft and Neu! there are abyssal differences; it wasn't electronic (in the current sense of the term).
Kraftwerk - Organisation Tone Float
Kraftwerk - Organisation Tone Float
29 nov 05
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Well, Vasco Rossi is an immense composer because he has the merit of making songs for idiots. When Neu! made Negativeland, a piece that is Techno, that is Electronic, that is Groove and has immense innovation, it was '72, and Kraftwerk were still just sketching out some semi ambient stuff. When Neu! made Super78, it was so Techno and Rave that it wasn't understood at the time. The fortune of Kraft was to go slower than Neu!, who were so ahead that they bypassed the market instead of entering it. Listen to Super78 (which is from '73, though) or Spitzenqualität, and tell me if that’s not modern electronic music... and they came out in '73, years before Kraftwerk, and light years ahead.
Kraftwerk - Organisation Tone Float
Kraftwerk - Organisation Tone Float
29 nov 05
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The definition of Kraut-Rock is the definition of a movement and a musical scene, not of a genre. It's like saying "stoner" or "the Bay Area," when within them there are very different groups. They are just attitudes. However, if you take it track by track, you can find some similarities between one group and another, but they are too minimal to be defined as a genre, just as this is too trivial to be called an album; it's just a rough sketch.
Kraftwerk - Organisation Tone Float
Kraftwerk - Organisation Tone Float
29 nov 05
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Take Ashes To Ashes by Tangerine, and Silver Forest from this draft, and tell me what substantial difference you find. Take Notinsagro from this draft, and Cold Smoke by Tangerine, and tell me what difference you see. Then for those that are a bit more played and eastern-influenced, take any track from Phallus Dei by Duul II, and you can easily throw this album away without remorse.
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