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I believe that Faith No More didn't have the "black" exuberance that bands like RHCP and Fishbone had. >>> Yes, neither do I. Who wrote that? Read carefully. I was talking about Crossover with FNM, and for Funk Rock (since you want to talk about that), I mentioned the bands that actually "invented" it. If you don't know either Zorn or Mr. Bungle, the problem isn't mine, but yours, as you want to analyze yogurt without knowing what milk is. If you don't know the basics, you can't analyze a topic; it seems quite objective and evident, doesn’t it?

A quick one and then I'll get back to work. Tièh, thanks again, Tièh.

Not to mention that Kyedis had furious arguments with Mr. Bungle precisely because they were always compared among the "inventors" of crossover. And you don’t even mention the Bungle in passing. How can one analyze crossover without mentioning them? It's like talking about Italy in the '50s without mentioning Modugno. Come on, don’t worry, when you grow up and have had the time to listen to a few more million records, you’ll understand. It's not your fault; it really takes time to listen to so much stuff, "nobody is born learned." Anyway, when I’m feeling depressed and grunge like Faith No More, I’ll come here to have a good laugh to cheer myself up. Since I’m at it, I’ll also mention a note about the album: the artwork is awesome too, where you can choose which "member" (since we were talking about Nu-Metal) to put on the cover. It's a giant photo of all of them, and depending on how you fold it, you change the cover. Cool, right?

Anyway, the central point remains: SEND THEM IN DROVES. I'm curious and eager to read more, like Jim Morrison influenced by Drum N Bass, or AC/DC influenced by Thrash metal. Maybe for Christmas, you'll buy yourself a calendar, huh? ...Damn human condition...

But then, also considering the timing, how the hell could Martin Gould & Mosely be influenced by something that was born a year after them? It's technically impossible. Besides the fact that between the early records of the Melvins and the first of FNM I find huge differences in terms of composition, sounds, and lyrics. Martin was a Metalhead, Buzzo a punk. And it’s not like those two things really get along musically speaking. Faith NO More formed in '81. Seattle at that time probably didn't even have running water, let alone a musical genre :D

I understand that maybe you weren't there and you read something that said so, but since you're referring to things you've read, at least do your research better. The idea that Faith No More were influenced by Grunge Depression is nothing short of colossal nonsense. I've been following them since I have the ability to hear, and over the years, I've read 8,000 interviews with them: never once have I heard FNM talk about depression. Not even from a distance. If instead of talking about Crossover you're talking about Funk Rock, it's even worse because, as I mentioned earlier, the Peppers had nothing to do with the creation of Funk Rock since they were in elementary school when this genre was emerging. If you want to talk about Crossover, talk about Crossover; if you want to talk about Funk Rock, talk about Funk Rock. Do whatever you want, but this page is really hilarious. The idea of depressed Faith No More is one of the best on the site, my sincere congratulations. PS: Listen to John Zorn.

Then you buy the vinyl of Garage Days by Metallica, you open it, and you check what t-shirt James is wearing. You call him and say: Mr. Metallica, why were you wearing the Faith No More t-shirt? And he will tell you: because Jim Martin is a badass metalhead. He (Martin) was the link for metal, and Bill Gould (Bass player & LEADER of FNM) for Funk. Because if you close the conversation with James and call Gould, you'll find out that Gould was crazy about the 70s black protocrossover. What makes me laugh the most about this analysis of yours, though, is that you consider everyone except the most Crossover bands in history, the ones that mixed the most stuff in a single song or album, namely the Zornian school and the Mr. Bungle of Spruance & Patton. Now, about the 80s. That New Wave was sad, nobody is arguing, but the funny phrase is: ‘80s, years invaded by new wave and thus by depression and frustration. There was also New Wave, but it didn’t invade the decade. If anything invaded the decade, it was the cheerful and silly Synth Pop that is anything but sad. Or Glam Rock or Street Rock, which are anything but sad. Or Bruce Springsteen, who doesn’t seem sad to me. Or Metal, which, for crying out loud, takes courage to say is sad. By invasion, we mean something that expands immensely in sales. Check who sold the most in the 80s; you can be sure that the first N.Wave record you find is overly at the 20th spot.

<<< because the attitude of this was generally pure fun >>> But who told you this bullshit? Maybe the Peppers, and only the Peppers, and while the Peppers are one side of a genre, they are just one side, and a minority. There were people doing Crossover even in the 70s, look for something black Funk Rock, then give me an answer: Black Merda, Funkadelic, Sly & The Family Stone and others. That was the first form of Crossover, call it proto-crossover, but that’s what it is.

After this, I need an equally hilarious analysis of a topic of your choice. Thank you for existing. Send it to Bomba.

"Those who consider nu-metal the offspring of crossover are mistaken." Yeah. "The early Peppers were perhaps too challenging for the average listener." Of course. "The '80s, years overwhelmed by new wave and thus by depression and frustration;" Huh? Girls Just Wanna Have Fun. "Another point to specify is that bands like [...] Faith No More did not share the philosophy of crossover." Certainly. "influenced by politics or grunge." Grunge, Faith No More? But wow.