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Alright Donj, but you also take the Deftones as a "theory fulcrum," one of the - if not "the" - most borderline bands in the genre. Apart from a few things from the early days, I find the Deftones to be much more rooted in Hardcore than in Metal or Crossover. Then take Untouchables, the most "off-the-chart" album that koRn made, which also came out at the end of the Nu boom. Okay, there’s something, but... take Walk by PanterA. It's all Nu-Metal, from A to Z, from the riff to the lyrical theme, from how it’s sung (oh, it's rap, and not even bad, all perfectly matched rhymes), to how hard the drums hit... only Dimebag's final solo is out of Nu, because no Nu guitarist even remotely possesses a fraction of the miraculous capabilities of the Texan, one of the greatest guitarists in history without exaggeration. But it remains a fully Nu-Metal piece, not "small hints," it sounds like it came straight from Life Is Peachy by koRn (with this, I don’t mean to compare the Unmatchable PanterA with koRn, to be clear).

No, you read between the lines incorrectly. I don't consider them superior to anything, and I repeat once again that doing nu-metal is not heresy. As for the absurd, I don't know what you're talking about. Condorbars told you no. Zlatan told you no. Chabrol told you no. Sfascia, in a veiled way, told you no. Fidia told you no. I told you no. Know-it-all told you no. Count them, there are 7, and you are one. Now tell me on what basis you think seven people say one thing, and one person says another, but the absurd ones are the seven and not the poor solitary one? Enlighten me on this alluring theory. That Nu Metal derives from Angel Dust is a completely ridiculous statement, universally recognized even in these comments.

I like Nu-Metal. Saying that koRn references FNM doesn't mean this album is Nu-Metal. The one before this one, yes, that is much more so. But here there are no Zombie Eaters, no Surprise You're Dead, no The Morning After. There are completely different tracks; the metalhead has had a falling out with the band, and you can feel it. Both Fidia and I made it clear which songs and albums we were talking about; we weren't discussing FNM but rather << "Midlife Crisis" and "Smaller and Smaller" have little (or perhaps nothing) to do with Nu-Metal, just as Kindergarten has no trace of rap metal. A crossover masterpiece. >> And it's true, they have nothing to do with Nu-Metal. Pretazzo, no. Don't say those things anymore, and we'll pretend you said nothing.

Nooo... I had stopped reading - with disgust - at the nonsense about the mustache, missing the beautiful << as in two or three other previous occasions, we encounter some superb guitar solos, and guest stars, namely the bassist and drummer from Cream (Jack Bruce and Jim Gordon). >> And on top of that, they catch you for having copied everything, and from WIKIPEDIA no less! If there's a place where they shoot a thousand musical nonsense (besides de-baser, obviously), it's Wikipedia. Go ahead, indulge in Emo, and stop defiling Zappa. You don’t even understand the drawings of the hot girl on the cover, let alone the recorded music.

Yes, I also vote for KFADFFAL as the best. I'm not very reliable because as soon as I found out that "the guitarist from Mr. Bungle" was joining FNM, I already decided from the start that it was an absolute masterpiece and the masterpiece of FNM. Yet even he didn’t last long; it was a bit tough to be their guitarist: you got to unleash yourself on one song, and on the next one you were almost standing still. You’d stay stationary for the whole song... and then suddenly a solo, without even warming up. It must be hard to be told: "no, in this song you barely play anything." In fact, the last one they took, I can’t even remember his name, was just some dude who was brought in for looks and to create minimal problems. However, Album Of The Year suffered quite a bit because of it; it would have been a great album if it had serious guitar parts, instead of just two half-gay riffs. Add some chords to Ashes To Ashes, a central break and another solo, and it could become a Hit. Regarding the Bungle, I can only tell you that I hardly listened to Disco Volante for years, but I "understood" it only in 2000-2001 (4-5 years and one album later). For years it just sat there collecting dust; I would occasionally give it a try, but when I finally digested it, it entered my stereo and never left. Try it again every now and then; it's very complicated even for a trained ear—you need to listen to it a lot to make it yours. In my opinion, it's the best album of the 90s; I might enjoy listening to Kyuss or Company Flow more, but if I had to give a balanced judgment, I would say Disco Volante.

The most crossover song ever made, but no, in the end, it's all rock-based stuff that mixes (except, well, the ending). Any flying saucer song beats jizzlober in this competition. Mr. Bungle are THE crossover, and the others... they tried :D

No Saputè, I agree. Among other things, the curious thing is that Jizzlobber was the only track on this album where Martin collaborated (you can't help but wonder how the album would have turned out if they hadn’t fought). The rest of the riffs were written (and sometimes even played) by Gould, while Martin contributed two solos and four chords here and there (in fact, for me, this album is not very metal, especially because of the absence of the "metal section" of FNM). Martin is the one I like(d) the least from Faith, his Brujeria never really did anything for me... but I can still listen to Jizzlobber two or three times in a row even after 14 years. And I enjoy headbanging to it as well.

Kappa, I'm flattered... and sad to have missed the chance to marry a CD shop owner in the fabulous 90s. You would have gone bankrupt, and I would have gotten fat from too much time in front of the stereo. Maybe it was for the best :D