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The conversation started from here: << You are the only human being on earth who, when told "violent music," responds: punk!. >> So, the main theme has always been "violent music," which I interpreted as "sonic violence." Then I understood what you meant, but I insist on saying that as long as you don’t listen to a bit of various metal, you can’t grasp how far you can go with violence-in-sound. Punk is lightweight, from every perspective. There are so many things to listen to, why waste time with punk?

I was talking about sound violence, since we're discussing records. Everyone had a different take. Even mixing the proposed music with the character and drawing conclusions, the Germs still lose: Charles Manson & Burzum take the podium in this particular tournament. << Regarding the bands you mentioned, I can't say anything because I don't know them, but playing at the incredibly high levels you mentioned about Eyehategod, who are used to demolish dilapidated houses and bridges under renovation, approved by the Italian association of civil engineers, means nothing. It doesn't mean they're violent; it just means they play that way. >> Because you haven't heard them. How can I discuss Sound Violence with you if you don't even know a classic example of people demolishing amplifiers and speakers like they were made of butter? It's like an Englishman trying to talk about Cricket with an average Italian; there would be no conversation.

Malloy had his license and titles revoked, and he withdrew from the rings. You can say “withdrawn” or “suspended,” but it’s more or less the same thing in sports: you don’t fight. Even Cantona was suspended for a few years; the years passed, and he didn’t come back. Back then, there was talk of retirement, predicting that after all those years he wouldn’t return. I wrote it was because of Vietnam too, but it could also be because he spat on the president or took a dump on the steps of the Capitol, but in sports, it’s the same thing: you don’t fight. Doppler, during the Olympics, aliens could land on Earth and conquer the planet, but that doesn’t interfere with the competitions. When talking about a football match with violent events among fans, two discussions are created: you either talk about the match and its penalties, goals, and passes, or you talk about the external events surrounding the match. They are two things happening in the same place, but they remain two different discussions that have nothing to do with each other. One is a game, the other is serious. Punisher, but "almost as much as you," or "you much less"? You always contradict yourself; you’re so useless that you never manage to have a sensible discussion. Create a fake account, and you’ll see it’ll pass.

However, I didn't understand if you're talking about anger or violence. For me, they are two distinctly different things.

Iron Maiden? Look, you read about Iron Maiden on another site. I figured you didn't know them, which is why the Germs seem so "violent" to you. For me, the term "violent" must be accompanied by a powerful and massive sound, and the Germs, recording with the canta-tu, could not and did not want to achieve something like that. Maybe angry, pissed off, but not violent. Violence harms the ear; you can't keep the volumes too high. Punk is a lot of anger, but it doesn't make tables, walls, or windows vibrate, even at very high volumes. Eyehategod is used to demolish dilapidated houses and bridges under renovation, approved by the Italian association of building engineers.

I rarely remember bits; after a week of not listening to a certain album, the titles fade from my memory (is that how you say it?).

The sludge of Eyehategod or Iron Monkey, the similar-thrash tunes of PanterA, the powerful suites of Meshuggah, the technified ebm of Alec Empire, the Rap of Dalek, the Death of Death, the Brutal of Cannibal Corpse, Vigogna's pants. Beautiful as the sun, I break the minute... and am I not going to mess up the day?

<< "Mohammed Ali (also known as Cassius Clay)" is not entirely wrong >> Cassius is what his father named him. Clay was his father's surname. It's not at all certain that it was the owner of some distant ancestor who gave him the surname "Clay" (to a DISTANT ANCESTOR). Maybe Clay was decided by the free son of the always-distant ancestor of the distant slave ancestor. Anyway, the name is Cassius Clay, also known as Mohammed Ali, boxing legend retired due to a "legal misunderstanding," because politics has nothing to do with boxing, so all retirements that aren't for sports reasons or injuries are legal misunderstandings. << Ali, kill him (not Ali, win for us, go Ali, you're the best, you're a legend), doesn’t that seem like enough hate? >> Who cares if the public hated him; the public has nothing to do with boxing, no connection whatsoever. If we can talk about "hate," always in quotation marks since it’s boxing and not Mortal Kombat, then we talk about Clay-Frazier, definitely not Clay-Foreman. There were people in France-Italy who wanted Zidane dead, but that doesn’t mean Del Piero isn’t his friend. << Ali represented the African nation and Foreman the United States. >> A couple of bullshits. Clay was born in KENTUCKY, and if he hadn't been born in KENTUCKY, he would have been just any African. He wouldn't have had gyms to train in, he wouldn't have had coaches, he wouldn't have had anything, he wouldn't have been a boxer. Clay is an AMERICAN BOXER. Then, whether he is African inside, it has nothing to do with boxing. He could have changed houses, names, and sexual preferences, but as a boxer, he remained of American school. Just as Zidane is Algerian by birth but is of French football schooling. << the cases of films that recount the deeds of someone without falling into hagiography can be counted on the fingers of one hand. >> So what? Just because this one is less worse than others, doesn’t mean it isn’t crap. There are certainly some that are worse, but the fact remains that this one is medium crap, or plain-crap-without-more.

What was the name of "that bald guy"? And Bronson, why hasn't he made "the vigilante of home serene" yet? It's been a while since I've seen a Bronson film, but is he still alive?

I like Peckinpah SO MUCH... that I've avoided watching his Western films. As if I were afraid of breaking something. The Western is also my father's favorite genre (he has my full support, your recently stated physical law), preferential peaks that rise exponentially with the presence of "that bald guy" or Charles Bronson.