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"Maybe you’re very young and have no idea about the circuits that existed until the early '90s." But what the hell do you know about how old I am? This record is from '93, and I bought it as soon as it came out. Is that enough, or do you want a photocopy of my ID? Trust me, it’s not us who are young; it’s you who is uninformed about things back then and today.
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I couldn't care less about your speech; I only debate incorrect factual knowledge, period. Meaning what I've quoted. If I read a bullshit claim that can be verified against facts, I say it. This isn't about discourse; it's about not spouting nonsense. Like this: <<< What I know is that with hip hop in Italy, a whole circuit of self-production that was born with punk has disappeared, which lasted for over twenty years. >>> You know very little, for example, I bought the self-produced album by Kaos One from his own hands just a few months ago. If the punk kids aren’t self-producing anymore, that's their problem, but saying "the Italian self-production circuit is dead" is another bullshit claim that can be verified against facts. Self-produced records are still coming out, and many of them too. Get informed before you start spewing nonsense. And I repeat: this isn't about "discourse," I'm not interested in your argument that "the fate of hip hop is commercialization," both because it seems like useless mental gymnastics to me, and because there have always been and will always be two ways to "create" a music genre: the commercial way and the non-commercial way. What a revelation.
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<<< I’m not aware of any politically engaged hip hop groups in Italy during the '80s, >>> But who the hell cares about political commitment? <<< Rap in the '80s was stuff for Francesco Salvi (this machine here..) or, at most, Jovanotti's "gimme five". >>> But stop talking nonsense, turn off the TV, it’s for the best. If you found rap disgusting back then and still do, how do you expect to know the serious groups, and thus the Underground? Following your ridiculous reasoning, the landscape of global music is this: Punk - Hc = Green Day = Crap / Electronic = Albertino = Crap / Rock = Arctic Monkeys = Crap… and so on and so forth. All crap. Just watch TV and Francesco Salvi, you’ll see how much good stuff you’ll find. By the way, not to go far, Dj Gruff has been making rap since '83. Going back a bit further, Militant Havana & Lou X were doing politically engaged rap since '86. If you don’t know a damn thing about a subject, keeping quiet makes you look better.
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In the 80s, rap and breakdancing in Italy were something commercial and it was written that they would return to being so. What a colossal bullshit. Commercial rock has always existed, yet it doesn't ruin the serious kind. The same goes for commercial electronic music. There's commercialism in all musical genres; they just go in and out of fashion in waves. When the stupid unz unz was trendy, it doesn't seem like Autechre were affected at all. You've said one of the funniest bullshit statements I've ever read here, and that's saying something.
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<<<there are also many more low-cost means>>> I mean "means" in the sense of "low-cost," not "economic means" in the sense of money.
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<<< In the underground, there are still real people who believe in it, even if it's been 20 years and more that they've been doing their own thing... >>> Undoubtedly, <<< Sandrino is one of them... >>> For me, no. It's been 12-13 years since he changed a single bit; his records all sound like they were released the same year. The rap with two turntables has bored me to death, and with all the immense room for improvement that exists, it irritates me to hear people stuck in their ways. I'd rather - precisely - listen to Neffa, who left it all behind rather than keep repeating the same things (his words, on Deejay Chiama Italia). I would also prefer if he were inspired (even more than just "inspired") by people from Anticon, Definitive Jux, or Ipecac rather than hearing the same beat, the same song structure, the same thing over and over. The same goes for Kaos, Deda, and the entire old scene. Sure, it's true that today commercial hip hop is worse and there are many more idiots, but there are also many more financial resources to produce rap music, and none of them use them because they have no ideas to put into it. Years ago, it was said, "if only we had the resources, we would make mega productions," now the resources are there, but it's still just bum-cha bum-bum-cha. Bunch of idiots.
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Dj Gruff represents the essence of hip hop in Italy, the point of reference. One who has been able to experiment and still doesn't find peace in his search. >>> ah ah ah aha... the best has always been Neffa. Both because he made the best things (lyrics and beats) and because he walked away just ten minutes before the collapse. Serious people always stand out over the long haul. Gruff now plays in holes in the wall, singing crap, stuffed every thirty minutes with old tracks that he claims to sing reluctantly but is forced to do so since no one cares about the new ones. A defeated one, against someone who sings crap yes, but at least he enjoys it and most importantly, it allows him to live without doing a damn thing from morning till night. The serious person will always be noticed, over the long haul.
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On Friday night, he wanted to hit one of my friends because he told him that from "lo scarso" onward, he was making "cazzoni" records. Humanly, he is one of the biggest imbeciles I have ever seen in my life, a truly poor moron worthy of a mental hospital, a person who, at almost forty, could only evoke pity. Musically, however, from La Rapadopa to Lo Scarso, nothing but masterpieces. "If you Test me like Fabio, I'll Pippo you more than Franco" --- "Alright then, Erre-à-Ppì." Respect so & so, Orrù, and troncaddira in cù, òòòhù!
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This is the film that - a long time ago - made me realize that Alberto Sordi wasn't worth a damn. Whether he played the traffic cop, the butcher, the soldier, the emigrant, the politician, or the businessman, it was always the same. Always the same mannerisms, always the same accent, always him, always the same damn thing. In ten minutes, two great actors explain, introduce, narrate, and make you understand a character. Beyond the actual value of the film, there are the two - magnificent - actors. The triad: Volontè Gassman Tognazzi. Period. End of discussion. Philippo.
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Whoever does not mock in company, may their twig wither.