Franci!

A monumental mistake on the fifth line due to haste! A stoning offense! I'm going to confess, seriously, okay?

I repeat. With the Buzzcocks - but if you had been smarter you would have told me about the power-pop scene of the late '70s - they don't have a thing to do with each other, they're two different worlds: it's not just a matter of note similarity. I repeat that the Descendents did nothing but hardcore, and they were melodic only because they were the underdogs - in a good way - of the moment (that is, it came naturally, there was no deliberate search for melody) because probably the Buzzcocks didn't even know who they were. If you want to lump together early English punk and Californian hardcore, that's on you. Also, there are other inaccuracies... Minor Threat are not Californians but New Yorkers, Bad Religion came after the Descendents (so it's impossible for the latter to recall them, rather the other way around) and New Alliance is not a subsidiary of SST, but a standalone label (on good terms with Ginn's label but not owned by him) founded by D. Boon inspired by SST. Well, these are just trivialities, but we should avoid these forced and constraining comparisons.

But, among other things, the Descendents may not have made millions (if I were them, I would sue Green Day for plagiarism), but the fact remains that in the U.S. they are an institution. It's not true that they're "little known to the general public," at least for me.

Oh dear, I'm having a flashback! But was the reviewer the one who commented on the affinity without divergences between the CCCP comrades and Joy Division? :)) Anyway, this page - I just read it now - is nice.

Especially in the '80s, rock'n'roll wasn't a trend, but a lifestyle. Come on! There are people who would hate you just for that. I haven't listened to the album the way Christ intended for about four lifetimes... I remember it was always playing in the background at little parties, and it was fun. It's an album I've always felt but never really listened to, and I think I've even lost it. Whatever. Anyway, if all the stories you mention at the beginning are true, this album loses all meaning. They are the quintessential "poseurs." They want to make you feel the drugs and the crap, but you can’t feel it because it’s all so fabricated. If you listen to Funhouse - that’s where you really feel it - you stop and get captivated, this - as I said before - is a party album. Maybe I'll find it again - everyone has it! - and give it another listen. But then again, maybe not.

Am I dreaming or awake? You reviewed a killer record! The fact is, these guys have nothing to do with the British and with power-pop from the late '70s in general. They're Californians and they only played hardcore. There was no stylistic or melodic search... It just came out that way because they were a bit uncool. That's all there is to it. And that "Pop-Punk" among the de-genres is awful.

Well, I think the Codeine would work well for that track. Moby's version of "New Dawn Fades" (my favorite song by the Division) is terrible, no need to say it. Anyway, for the rest, I pass it all. The New Order couldn't remake them decently, let alone these others.

In agreement with Giola. A capital disc of the English wave, to be placed alongside any of the masterpieces of the Pop Group. A full 10, then.

Good group. A bit "o' famo strano" though, but not bad. :)

Group those many forced ones. I keep avoiding them.