Voto:
cooloras, it's a conversation with neither head nor tail; I can easily say the same thing you said to me, referring to Avril (whom I detest, just to be clear). After all, it's a product that’s well-played, okay, well-mastered, okay, nicely packaged, etc., etc. The limitations of products like Avril are evident to everyone; it’s not that it sucks outright, it’s just that the sugary tone, the character, the irritating voice, the pointless melodies are what ruin it. That doesn’t take away from the fact that it remains a product a thousand times superior to any random brutal album (which has nothing to do with music) [even though I repeat that both Avril and brutal albums are a solid 1 for me], but according to your reasoning, Avril wouldn’t be cataloged as "shit" [[just like Pantera are, indeed, music with neither head nor tail] [[[and to connect with the next post by ilmigliore, I repeat that I don't judge the genre negatively by default, or out of prejudice, unlike people who can't see beyond; something in the metal field has still appealed to me, and I believe I even have one among my favorite reviews]]] so the argument doesn’t hold water. Moving to the clothing topic, it was a discussion I clung to, listing Greg’s qualities against Phil's uselessness; I brought it back in because it fit with the comparison, but for me, it’s clear that look doesn’t matter (you say it doesn't matter, then I don’t understand how 90% of the comments on groups like Tokio Hotel or fucking emo bands often attack their type of aesthetics). Consistency comes first. Many who respond on this page don’t even know where it stands! I mentioned the 13-year-old fan discussion to get ahead of things, since a post in the style of ilmigliore would surely have come out talking about "oh but you listen to this, that, stuff for this and that reason)" ((in this case, a certain punk rock can be appreciated (more or less by teenagers) just as Pantera do)). Returning to the post by ilmigliore, metal and classical music are the genres that require the most technical skill? That’s a good one; what do you say about jazz or certain electronic avant-gardes? It's you who, with what you've said, are demonstrating a rather closed mindset. I don’t have a problem with metalheads; on the contrary, to stay on topic, there are some nice and open-minded ones here (not your case, for sure), unlike those who sell me this crap as a masterpiece; are you kidding me? (!) Pantera [you who quote "MTV stuff"] one of the most commercial bands around, and they’ve sold more than the MTV groups you give 1-1... you who act so picky when reviews of commercial albums are published on your homepage (!). I don’t know, frankly I don’t understand, but anyway I don’t feel like delving into this discussion, you’re wrong about everything you’ve said, just come to terms with it. icnarf, yet another user who, instead of arguing like cooloras, comes out with insults; well done, I could do the same about your hair (?), but unlike katharsis & co, I don't. Take example from cooloras. With this lengthy post, I’ve said everything I needed to say, any further replies will therefore be superfluous; the answers are all right here. I’m going to sleep; don’t fight too much to praise this little group. (: Regards. Yosif.