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So, we agree that the mess on the ampli part in Blow-up is a fictio, meaning it’s added later, because the version is the one recorded in the studio. Page doubles Beck's solo, which is why it’s considered one of the first examples of the so-called twin-solo. If the Belgian edition mentions summer '66, it’s talking nonsense, because, I repeat, the track was recorded in September 1966 (but maybe it's still summer until the 21st). I’m not sure if your Belgian version doesn’t credit it, but on my Stroll On version, it’s credited to Page as a composer. On YouTube, you can find the summer 1966 version with Page still on bass. Page tells me that you’re buying the beer :-) Good night.

I think we won't get out of this without calling Page. So, Having a Rave Up was recorded in 1965. I have no idea whether Stroll on is included in various reissues (it is on the CDs). The fact is that Stroll on was recorded in September 1966. So it might be included in some foreign edition, but it's Train a Kept a Rollin reimagined, with a completely different idea, a year and a half later. In fact, in the summer of 1966, with Page already in the lineup, but on bass, the song is still called Train Kept a Rollin and still has the harmonica, and no feedback. So, feel free to call Page, but in my opinion, Stroll on was not recorded in 1965, and anyway, not in the final version that will be used in Blow Up. And that version, just to clarify, and to end it here, is what makes us seem like two crazies :-), that definitively marks the birth of hard rock :-). It is, as already mentioned, the absolute last song, I believe, recorded and released by the Yardbirds with Page at the time, and it will be the first song that the Zep will try. That said, I bet a beer on it and hope to see you at a DeM!

There is: however, the reason we don’t agree is that you refer to a version of Having a Rave up by Train, and then there’s (?!!) the version of Blow up by Stroll on, which is a whole different world. In this one, it’s also not true that Page only provides accompaniment; he plays one of the solos. In Having a Rave up, Page isn’t even there (it’s from 1965, and Page joins the band in June 1966). So either you have a version of Having a Rave up that only you have, or you’re mixing things up. Because honestly, the two are like day and night, aside from the fact that the chords are the same. In fact, Train Kept a Rollin is credited to the bluesmen who wrote it, while Stroll on is credited to the Yardbirds. After that, it’s true that I’ve never heard it performed live, not even in the Zep rendition, but to tell me that the two are the same thing, just with different lyrics, can only mean that you’re confused (in the sense that I think you know and can’t say something like that). Ciauz.

Yes, but when "The train kept a-rollin'" becomes "Stroll On," that's really the transition. The chords remain, but feedback is introduced and the harmonica is removed, almost signaling a farewell to the blues, which probably existed more in Page's mind than in Beck's. But we've discussed this before :-)

Hello C'è. A couple of thoughts on your interesting and abundant page. I'm not so sure that Hendrix was better than the Who in Monterey, and between the two, in my humble opinion, the Jeffersons won. Therefore, I'm not completely convinced by the statement that Cream institutionalized hard rock. If the origins, as you observed, lie in Distortions by the Litter (and I would add that Stroll On by the Gallinacci, which marks their end and the beginning of the Zep), I believe that hard rock comes into being when certain blues margins truly began to be forgotten (something that never happened with Cream) but only, precisely, with the Zep and the Who around '68. Again, this is just my humble opinion.

Oh my goodness, my three favorites complimenting me one after the other: what a day! Hi girls, a kiss, one for each of you obviously!

Oscia Lewis, here you place beautiful insinuations... and, exaggerating, I also somewhat agree with you. Because when it comes to the Marlene-Sonic derivations, there's really no point in discussing. But about the CSI, I remember a review in Les Inrockuptibles where they slammed Tre, as it ended up being quite Curesque. And I didn't entirely disagree with them, since we've always been hooked on Lindo, but try to imagine a French person who doesn’t understand a damn thing about Italian... Stanzas is from 1993 and Egle has always sworn to me that she listened to Spiderland afterwards. P.s.: just so you know, the new guitarist is really good, and Mimì, with a touch of wickedness, has already said that he’s never had a better one in the band. P.p.s. For what it’s worth, Mimì also confessed to me once his great admiration for Madonna's guitarist (?!!).

P.S. If you don't bring the demo, I won't come!

@Isi, that's fine with me, even if it's a Tuesday (?!!, Fusi has Elio's tour?). Check how the Cap is doing with the shifts. Maybe if you do an official one, Ole will come too...

Uh, uh, good evening and thank you to the first participants. Just to update: in the meantime, through Giuly, to whom I owe the little photo and the "calm and relentless," I found out that our team will enter the studio in March and the new project should be released in September. I was almost prophetic :-)