Arctic Monkeys Who The Fuck Are The Arctic Monkeys
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Now there's the boss saying: this is indie, this is not, even if they are with Domino, I don't know if it's indie. So, I have no intention of spending the day defending the Arctic, but there’s one thing that can’t be debated. Indie simply means that they are signed to an independent label. Therefore, since Domino is indie, the Arctic are indie. Any other interpretation is nonsense. At least on this, there’s no arguing. Then someone can come and say: the Interpol (just a random name) are more alternative than the Arctic. But not indie. Because they’re on a major. So, I'm sorry for you, but the Arctic are as indie as Fugazi. End of story. And damn. Because in the end, one gets tired of reading ignorant things from people who think they know better, but, even twelve-year-old kids in England know this.
Primal Scream XTRMNTR
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Obviously, I side with those who wish all hippies were dead. I also don't understand why you gave it only three stars. The remix of "Swastika Eyes" by the Chemicals is one of the most powerful things I've heard in the last ten years. Arnold, please, avoid commenting on any record released after 1975: you have no idea what you're talking about, you piss everyone off, and you get a lot of insults. It makes no sense.
Sonic Youth Daydream Nation
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Thank you Tricky, at least I have a couple of pards left...
Sonic Youth Daydream Nation
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Thank you Easy
Sonic Youth Daydream Nation
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@Happypippo: Go screw yourself! Someone who shows up after we've spent a whole day discussing, just to say that I'm talking nonsense, qualifies themselves. You're an asshole!
Smashing Pumpkins Zeitgeist
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And instead, dear Bellach, it’s rather intelligent to consider the opinions of others. So if many DeBaseristi think this album isn’t much, and I agree with them, we just need to respect their opinions and not act like a fanboy. Said by someone who defended Corgan even back in the days of "Machina." There are so many fabulous albums in the world that getting lost, with four reviews, behind this one seems absurd to me. To me, it’s wasted words. If you, on the other hand, need an in-depth analysis, that’s your problem. I’m here to discuss, not to waste time.
Sonic Youth Daydream Nation
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Thank you, for the any objective reason. But with you, just like kids who take their ball away, I'm not discussing anymore. Because in I don’t know how many comments, you haven’t been able to give me a reason, just one, to make me like the prog. Guys, and I would be the one throwing tantrums? Please, read what you’ve written a bit. I have argued against the prog, you against my opinions. (Who the hell ever said that the Floyd are prog? I only said that one responds to opinions. After that, if you talk to me about a mind-blowing trip instead of a pain in the ass, I’m just astounded, because it means you have blindfolds on. I think "The Piper" is one of the best albums in the world, but the Floyd have also done some crap. No, according to your Komeinist faith, nobody can question that. No, it’s a psychedelic trip... but please...) So what the hell are we discussing for? I don’t need converts. I've lived 25 years of rock'n'roll perfectly well without prog, you live well with your prog. But don’t come and screw with me in the reviews of Sonic. Because there, you truly don’t understand a damn thing.
Sonic Youth Daydream Nation
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Before any Nietzschean misunderstandings (they’ve already called me a racist for insulting Jacko elsewhere), I’ll try to keep it straightforward. So, the best virtue for a group playing music, let’s call it rock for generalization, to me, is the "groove." Now, if you put on "In the Court," to talk about the music you play, "21st Century..." has an incredible groove. Attention: "groove" doesn’t mean playing aggressively and fast, otherwise the Ramones would always have groove, but that’s not the case, quite the opposite. Another example is "Moonchild," which has groove, even though it's a sweet, enchanted fairy tale. After that, there follow some minutes of pure annoyance. Why? Avant-garde? But that was done fifty years earlier!!! The easiest example is with Jazz: Coltrane had groove, if you look at Stan Getz, he’s just an old boring guy. You might not be bored, but most prog bands don’t have groove; they are boring because they have this tendency to meander, always drifting away from the target. Since we’re talking about a Sonic Youth record, which I proudly claim to know a bit about, since I have their entire discography, various bootlegs, seen them live several times, etc.... Guido Chiesa, during the "Daydream" tour, having seen them dozens of times, said: "Finally Sonic Youth are no longer a band that phrases without ever looking for the goal, but they want to score." There you go, I repeat, to me, it seems that most prog is indulgent and self-satisfied. Something I absolutely don’t care about in a band because I want rock'n'roll to speak and tell my shit, not think about its own. If prog means a lot to you, that’s rightly your business. I prefer four voices that make three-minute songs with the desire and energy that only they can have. The other day I pointed out that in "Embryo," from minute 5 to minute 9, in the version from Saint-Tropez, the Floyd say absolutely nothing; they're just mortally boring. Well, has anyone been able to explain the opposite to me? No, because it’s like that. In those four minutes, the Floyd are as much as the most superfluous and useless band in the world. If one starts admitting this, I can also tell you that I adore "The Carpet Crawlers." But the energy comes from the desire to connect with the people, not from playing a perfect solo so that everyone says, "How cool are you!" That’s not rock. Jimi, who was the best guitarist in history, at dawn at Woodstock, when most people had left, played one of the greatest concerts in history. Just because it was about having fun with those who had stayed. That’s all.
Sonic Youth Daydream Nation
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No Arnold, it's perfectly fine for you to bring up unknown groups, since I've never listened to all of prog. But VDGG no, hell no! They're as powerful as Kawasaki in the GP World Championship. For crying out loud. I have that album (because here everyone judges my ignorance, but I've got a few thousand records myself, and I've seen a few hundred concerts too) and I never listen to it. Or rather, every time I listen to it, I just leave it there. High Tide are missing, and sooner or later I'll make up for it.
Sonic Youth Daydream Nation
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Ah, but indeed, at a certain point, even the Crimson become shit, huh:-)! I'm sorry, but I'm with Mick Farren. And by the way, Oleinar, did I misunderstand, or have you never listened to "Daydream Nation"? If that's the case, what the hell are you wasting time discussing with me for? Go listen to it, you'll have more fun.