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Ps: but if you don't care about what others think, what are you doing here? (it's a question I've always forgotten to ask you but have always wanted to, since the glorious times of Brat12)

If there are any mistakes in the post above, they are due to the "extreme conditions" :-D in which I am writing, and I apologize in advance.

It may also be that you are wrong and it’s a good album, right? That would certainly align with Occam's razor, don’t you think? You’re free to think as you like (even about the “self-parody” discourse) but I don’t believe that the average fan of the Rossa is any less obtuse than a fan of any other character or group (which seems to be implied by your words) because in the end we are all too human... including you (with various “extreme obtuseness” too) ;-) But that's your business whether you think it or not. The point, however, is that I was referring to something else, namely I was joking about certain en tranchant judgments (with very similar discussions, like the one about “forgetting,” from post 30) that come from a certain type of Rossa fan who usually, coincidentally, share a common background (the Italian Forum) so it was an internal matter (or at least Schedenfroh in the post claims it is) among fans of Tori (as you can see, there’s not just one myopic and obtuse view even beyond 6-7 listens :-D) and not in general. In the end, speaking about the album in question and also about the latter part of Amos's career, I believe that the matter is purely personal, which is why I tend to joke about clichés like the one about too many songs on a particular album: a favorite topic of detractors (who often can’t even tell me which ones they would remove precisely because they stop after a single listen) when if there’s a problem it should be sought elsewhere, but I don’t believe, knowing you a bit, that you would be too interested in that (and honestly neither am I since these are things I’ve already discussed at length in other discussions I've had on the site and which you can read if you want). Best regards.

Errata corrige: I checked 2 damage 4 points and one 3 (but always with a positive judgment overall)

Dear Nes,
On DeBaser for this album (if I'm not mistaken) there are at least 2 other reviews and all of them (including mine) give it 4 stars/points. Moreover, in almost all the newspapers of the time, as far as I remember, the ratings were similar (even abroad, with a couple of exceptions, obviously: the wiki page dedicated to the album lists a few, if you're interested, and if you don't consider wiki a too "plebeian" source, feel free to check). Now, four years later, all (and there are many) the fans I know (in person, not online) consider it a successful album. That said, the exceptions (more significant) that come to mind are precisely Ondarock and the Italian Forum (in its "responsibles," not in its "mass"), and Schadenfroh's "tranchant" judgment seemed in line with those two sources: I was simply making an ironic comment (in what I believe was a calm manner) on such a "definitive" judgment ("scandalous and to be forgotten" if I'm not mistaken, says the commentator in question) without passing judgment myself. As you can see, the phrase about the slices of salami makes little sense (also because, at the very least, you should have associated them with the Forum or Ondarock, don't you think?). Best regards.

Bah. After 4 years (that's how long it's been since the review), I largely confirm my judgment (and I'm reassured by almost all the Rossa fans I know: the only ones to forget, at most, are "The Beekeeper" and, to some extent, the latest one). As for the concert of 2007, I have fond memories of it (and I don't think I'm the only one here). I know that on the Italian Forum in recent years there’s been a competition to throw around rather excessive negative judgments, but luckily, I no longer frequent that "place": if you don’t already, however, given your attitude, I recommend you participate or go to Ondarock instead. But if you just want to forget, that’s another matter. Take care.

I was wrong. I apologize. A dialectism that sometimes happens ("el studioso" in my "first" "language") or I was already projected onto the next word (I don't remember). I'm not here to prove the point by searching for posts or reviews on Debaser where I used the correct article (or to find others where I used the dialectism again out of distraction: once, if I remember correctly, I mistakenly wrote "i Slayer" instead of "gli Slayer"): I hope this clarification suffices. Thank you anyway for the zeal you showed in pointing out the mistake (I hope, at this point, that this never happens to you): I feel more mature now ;-). Best regards.

It's not fair: just because he's a good guy, we have to give him all the honors (und gloria)? Shitty people (like me) of the world, unite and put an end to this terrible injustice. The assholes in power! (or are they already there?)

Sit by the riverbank and wait for the corpse of your current hipster to float by.

Then we need to agree on one thing: whatever certain pundits (who have generally listened very little to The Red) may say, Tori Amos has musically done and experimented with a bit of everything throughout her career, so it would be more accurate to say, for example, "X resembles Tori Amos in the 'Under the Pink' period" or "Y has taken a lot from The Red of 'From the Choirgirl Hotel'," and therefore saying that someone resembles her is to say everything but also nothing at all. I reiterate, this is just a matter of image (in this case). Also because I am a very superficial person.