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By the way, the charm of a team (and its supporters) also lies in knowing how to lose and turning it into a value... perhaps in making mistakes and then paying for it (UNIQUE) with pride... so for the moment I'm holding on tight to my Serie B and my 5 lost CC finals. That said, I’d like to avoid your review turning into a theater of football comments, so I’ll say goodbye with the usual (TRUE) affection and the usual (REAL) esteem even if you’re a rossonero.. ;-) Bye Isi!

Which was the last one in Athens or the last one in Manchester? Anyway, I remember both perfectly, we (as Juve, I mean) hold the record for the most lost Champions League finals along with Benfica, and that is 5... you are at 4, I think three is better than two... ;-)

Hair, obviously.

Indeed, dear Isi, I hadn't read the discussion as I mentioned, sorry... Like you, as a Juventino, I can't stand all the coaches of Juve, especially the one before last, the one before that, and if I can say it, the one before the last one...

Certo! Inviami il testo che desideri tradurre e provvederò a farlo.

I adore it.

Certo! Inviami il testo che desideri tradurre e provvederò a farlo.

Dave! Two and a half albums of Maiden? Come on, you're a good guy so I won't bug you anymore... ;-)

Yes, anyway it's a matter of personal taste; it wasn’t my intention to start a controversy. From my point of view, I prefer those who quote themselves rather than those who quote others. Bye ;-)

Dearest 47, mine are subjective too, don't worry ;-) As for this discussion, I think I've been clear already; you've mentioned bands that I consider mere epigones and that ultimately bore me. Regarding the Prog discussion, I’ll say right away that Maiden are not prog at all; sure, in their career they’ve had some prog elements, and in "Amolad" this fact is more than evident. Therefore, the comparison must be made within the metal realm, of which Maiden, if not “the,” are “among” the founders, at least as we conceive modern Metal—not only did they rewrite it in the early '80s, but they also reinvented it in the second half of that decade with albums like "Somewhere in Time" and "Seventh Son of a Seventh Son," inspiring that array of groups you mentioned.
Regarding compositional flair, I'm sorry, but I don't see it as significant in Opeth; I repeat, they just repeat clichés that aren't theirs, technically very valid, not theirs (this also applies to Mastodon, Meshuggah, etc.). Sure, Iron Maiden also often repeat certain clichés, but at least they are of their own creation. The last three albums of Maiden may be full of references, but they are references from Maiden; groups from the last 15 years in metal do nothing but reference others (the sacred monsters). This is why Metal is stagnating, and this is why I say when I hear people claim that bands like Maiden or Metallica steal the spotlight from others, I feel compelled to suggest a little self-reflection on their creativity.
I care about both of you, but it seems to me that you are evaluating the technical side too much and confusing it with the compositional aspect (which is something else entirely, and anyone with a bit of critical sense can confirm that compositional-wise, Opeth and their metal companions are mere citationists and little more) and especially the emotional and expressive aspects.
I reiterate that this is not a criticism of your tastes, far from it; I just wanted to convey that art is a very personal and complex matter that must be evaluated from many angles, otherwise, there's a risk of mistaking genius for a lack of talent, to quote the great Peter Steele. Bye!