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Yes, Ole, I'm sorry, it's just that you're young and I wouldn't want you to get bored among old geezers ;-)

Oh my God Peachtree... are you (one of) the fakes from ...Caz...! Tell me right away, so I don't have to be mean to you! You know I care about you...

Yes, thank you Fusi, we need to get together for a beer, you, me, Azzo, and Isi sooner or later...

Hi Black, all good, you? @Peachtree: well, you don’t need to be a genius to read between the lines; I said (literally) "things like: I know him, he sucks, and anyone who loves him is ignorant..." In a previous post you said: "at most ignorance shows when someone gives 5 stars to a record like this..." which may not be the same thing in a literal sense but is in terms of real meaning (and in fact, I used the phrase "things like..."; I'm a bit tired of explaining everything to you though). The fact that in your last post you say (literally) "the fact that I know him does not imply that I have to say why he sucks; it’s a fact that does not require any explanation" confirms my hypothesis that you have no arguments and are probably a poor soul looking for a commotion, and it reinforces the idea that you are ignorant in both senses of the word. As you can see, you offer me the arguments against you with your posts. But since I suspect I’ve used terms and phrases too difficult for you, let me explain it in simple words: you don’t know what you’re talking about, you have an antipathy towards the group and the genre that must have been instilled in you by someone else (most likely Scaruffi), and when pressed (in your double ignorance), you try to turn the tables with tricks that anyone with a bit of dialectics would send back to you. I would say that this thing of "you don’t need to argue; my reasons are truth and that’s it" could fall into the realm of a fascistoid delirium, but I don’t think even the most abject of ideologies could justify an element like you. You are empty, period, and you live reflectively off the little you see around. But don’t worry, it’s not serious; you can always get out of it: thinking with your own head could be a good start. Regards.

there were cases like yours, not like you, obviously...

Well, if you reason like that, I can respond to you with "I know, you don't," so from my point of view, the ignorant one would be you. But I don't think that's the right approach: I simply pointed out that anyone who insults (anything) comes off as ignorant (in the figurative sense, meaning a narrow-minded and unpleasant person, not in the literal sense of someone who is unaware; sorry, but I don't think that's hard to understand), hence the extreme example.
Regarding the discussion of "knowing very little, insufficiently, about a subject or topic”? I must contradict you here as well because, assuming, as you say, that you know the record, you haven't made any arguments about it; you've limited yourself to a vague "curriculum" (something like: I know it, it sucks, and those who love it are ignorant... literal or figurative sense, please explain). Now, in a civilized world, this is not enough to prove whether you truly are this genius in criticism or just a simple provocateur who maybe understands very little about music, but it simply makes me think you're a bit pretentious and, I repeat, somewhat fascistoid. Prove to me that you know the truth; otherwise, don't be upset if others call you ignorant because in cases like yours, it's better to apply the rule "ignorant (literal sense) until proven otherwise" rather than "knowledgeable until proven otherwise." In the figurative sense, I have no doubts: you’re definitely very rude. Regards.

Thank you Isi ;-)

@Peachtree: the ignorance in the insult lies in the insult itself and not in who or what it is directed at; it doesn't seem that difficult to understand (yes, even insulting extreme cases like Nazism, because I think there is that great thing called dialectics that is more than enough to bury something without resorting to vulgarities that put oneself on the same level as those one wants to offend). It would be nice to understand what your logic would be in deciding what constitutes "disc insult" and what does not, instead of reading nonsensical (vaguely fascist) drivel about who deserves attention and who does not...

I'm not the right person (since I've decided, on my own, to get off this site, popping in from time to time to see old familiar names as if they were old friends), but I would like to share my thoughts on a couple of things: the first is regarding comment 47 by Psycho: I don't believe that those who decide to stop interacting here do so because they take themselves too seriously and "Those who have problems on deb have problems elsewhere," but perhaps they do it simply because after a while they get tired of the two or three mechanisms that underpin the Site (which I continue to love unconditionally, despite my absence) and they no longer have fun because they spend more time trying to find a common language to avoid being misunderstood than actually sharing: not always, of course, but among those who think they have the truth in their pocket, those who ruin everything with jokes (and not because of the mockery itself, but because they have been the same for years, they have grown stale...) from elementary school, and those who "elegantly" wish for my death, my "lightness" (and I think I'm stating something true if I self-proclaim myself among the Users who have distinguished themselves most in this quality) has honestly been put to the test. Is it my fault? Am I the outcast? It might be, but it's not true that I'm uncomfortable elsewhere: I don't frequent other music sites (because I think DeBaser is still the best), but in the infinite universe of the blogosphere I've found so many places where certain problems do not arise, I find more completeness (by the way, it’s been three months since the new Notwist album was released and no one has reviewed it yet...) and above all, you are not constantly caught up in competitions over who "has the bigger one."
The second thing: I wouldn't want you to confuse freedom with anarchy: the fact that banning is the only means of existing "moderation" is not always positive, especially because there is honestly no uniformity from those who manage it in its application. I don't want to keep bringing up the same names (because it might make me look pathetic), but Happypippo was banned for things far less serious than those, for example, that are granted every day to individuals like Rivoli.
No hard feelings, because you know I care about you. Bye. Mo.

I didn't even read the review this time, but I'm giving it a 5 regardless. I see so many 1s for the album anyway, so I don't think I’ll significantly undermine the (already compromised) credibility of this page (and I won't even dwell on the comments because I’d like to spare myself the usual dose of triviality). It's hard for me to act so haughty (since it's not in my nature), but on these pages (with the insults) it seems to be the only "language" that gains relevance. The 5 for the album is obviously not arbitrary but is objective, and it’s still a low score for the value expressed.