cptgaio

@Supersoul: It's obvious that the cities I mentioned I brought up to provoke, but I'll tell you, for this country, the small Vercelli and Belluno, I see you refrained from saying that I also mentioned Crotone... ;-), must count and are as important as Naples: perhaps it's time we started thinking more about how we all serve together and less about the peculiarities of our cities. Because if some, I hope not all, Neapolitans continue to insist that Naples is a separate reality, we won't move beyond certain vulgar discussions of the green shirts you mentioned. Because that's the point: there's not much difference between thinking of oneself as "padani" or thinking of oneself as Neapolitan, because one should think of oneself first as Italian and nothing more.

Now the articulated response: you’re right to ask why you should be interested in me, but the problem is (and I hope you’ll agree here) that it was you who brought me into the conversation with post 70 (not directly, but it was clear you were addressing me) with a topic that (and again, I believe you won’t disagree) strayed from the issue at hand and (at least this is how I interpreted it) aimed to interrupt the discussion. So I simply replied (clearly, I hope) because personally, I don’t like leaving things hanging, and it’s good to say things when the time is right (and since we hadn’t interacted before, to my recollection, on these pages, the time was now). I believe that when someone leaves a post on these pages, they should also expect some sort of "feedback," right? I didn’t ask you to become "intimate" with me ;-) or to instantly understand what I write between the lines (it’s to avoid being misinterpreted that I can often seem redundant; it’s an important thing for me) I simply expressed my doubts about your arguments in defense of your first comment. Regarding what you said at the end, I can respond that DeBaser serves to share and to have fun (or both together), and from your words, I gather that you are indeed interested (and you have every right to be) in the latter. However, there are people who may have different parameters and who, on certain topics, try to maintain a glimmer of seriousness, even through a screen: well, sometimes I joke around, and sometimes I want to be serious; this was one of those times, especially if someone (like Alessio did in this case and in this discussion) treats me with a bit of condescension. But one thing I ask you: if "this is not important, it’s not important that you understand me, it’s not important that I understand you, it’s not important that anyone reading what we’ve written understands," then what are you doing on DeB? (because even joking, these things contradict each other a bit). Again, not to be polemical, but out of curiosity.

"SID | Date: 18/2/2009 23:17 | Rating: — | Album Rating: —
oh my god "how many were we discussing?" but "you are right on one point" is a saying"
I was joking, I even added the emoticon..."

We need to synchronize in the replies ;-). Anyway, you're wrong to disregard it. It has led to bad things in this country when people (one in particular) didn't care. Everything matters.

Ps: Am I right about one thing? Sorry, how many were we discussing? ;-) And I don't want to be right because, to stay on topic, as they say in Naples, it's for fools :-D

Dream: tough moment, but you'll make up for it.

Sid, you can think whatever you want. It's not a matter of "being right" but about "understanding" each other regarding the topic. If you give me a "yes" that feels so solitary, I could interpret it in many possible ways; it's my right, just as it is yours to believe you've answered me. But since a discussion on someone else's manner is quite an artificial (this time, yes) waste of time, I would say we should wrap it up here. Unless you want to talk about the real topic of the discussion; then I would be all ears, but on that (allow me to say) "artificial" point you've introduced, I think I've already responded to you from my first post in reply.

"SID | Date: 2/18/2009 10:21 PM | Rating: — | Rating for the Album: —
Ah, and I already gave you my interpretation of that particular response from alessioiride, but you didn't like it... amen." Besides, I don't think Alessio needs someone to "interpret" his posts; I think yours is indeed an interpretation. I didn't see it as a request to close the discussion, but rather as a way to belittle the counterpart (me and non-Neapolitans in general)... and given the other comments, particularly Ghemison's illuminating one, I don't think it was the only one who understood it that way.

Maybe I didn't explain myself well, I'll summarize: you posted a comment where you basically say that we are wasting our time and that we won't get anywhere. I respond that it's dialectic, and while it may not lead to anything, talking is always useful. You reply that for a while now (I only recall one comment...) you've been trying to tell me that our different backgrounds won't lead to anything. I reply that this is a conversation of relative importance because it's in human nature to interact, and you tell me that I was asked to stop. I ask you, by whom? Because if the request came from you, it doesn’t really matter since I wasn’t talking about the topic "Napoli" with you (at this point I wonder why you came here if you don’t care...) and if anyone should have asked me to stop, it should have been Alessio (he didn’t ask me, he said I’ll never understand, which is different and, I repeat, an unacceptable response). And now you write that there are thirty comments telling me to stop, and I reply again, who is asking me? I repeat, I wasn’t even talking to you; it’s not that I don’t want to, if you want to, let’s do it, but I reiterate that a third person asking to interrupt a discussion between two others, unless they have serious civic reasons or common sense, without contributing anything meaningful to it, doesn't have much say in the matter. I understand perfectly well what you want, and I responded that you are not (here in this review) in a position to request it because 1) I wasn’t talking to you 2) you yourself said that the discussion doesn’t interest you because (for you) it leads nowhere, so it shouldn’t matter how I continue it. Is it clearer now? No offense intended.

mmm, Sid, all right, but I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to Alessio, so what do we do about it? ;-) I don't think Alessio has ever asked me to stop. He simply said that I will never be able to understand (just like any non-Neapolitan). That's not an acceptable answer. Do you agree?