Ludwig Van Beethoven Sonata per pianoforte in do minore n. 32 op.111
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More than an hour, two beers and three cool cigarettes :) Just for the record, I included three samples, the two openings of the two movements and a variation I mentioned to floydman. Bye :)
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It's tough to be away ... Dear debasers, I apologize once again; I have had little time to take part in the discussion. I’m responding now, but I believe I won’t be brief, especially since something substantial has emerged in the comments, so I’ve decided to reply in a detailed manner. I hope no one gets bored. Alright, let’s give it a shot... Yes, Beethoven was considered a romantic as :::burns::: says, the romantic who closed the era of classicism according to many, and this was, after all, the main theme of this review. This, of course, speaking of always precarious boundaries. Anyway, this is the key point that emerges from the words of Thomas Mann, written with the significant help of Theodor WIESENGRUND (that’s why he’s cited in the text) Adorno, to the extent that the authorship of the cited work is debated. These words of Mann/Adorno are, in my opinion, magnificent; it’s art that springs from art. Words that soar as high as Beethoven's work. I’ve wanted to discuss this sonata that I love very much for some time, but on one hand I've noticed the impossibility of describing the ineffable, as has rightly been highlighted, and on the other hand, when I read those passages, I couldn’t detach myself from them, which is why I'm on this page. But there’s another reason: since we have spoken so many times about writing on music, I wanted to bring an extremely elevated example as a contribution to this eternal discussion on debaser. Certainly, not everyone can write like Mann/Adorno, but these words demonstrate that one can speak about music in such an elevated way that it becomes a pleasure to accompany the listening experience. I've seen that the theme has been touched upon in fragments in the comments, and all in all, I hoped for that.
To :::Punisher:::, see, dear, as you already know, what leaves me puzzled about your intervention is the fact that it has little to do with music except very slightly. Why? Do you really have nothing to say about Beethoven or this work? You can do it in your own way. Others have done so. Focusing only on the review seems a bit pointless and deliberately provocative, in my opinion. But as I said... patience. The only somewhat interesting point was the judgment on the so-called "self-ghettoization" of classical music, but to me - placed this way - it’s hardly comprehensible; it seems like nonsense. Classical music has its own language and history; it can be discussed differently, true, but discussing it with respect for that very history is not, in my view, incorrect in itself. Furthermore, if you want, you can talk about it in your own way in the comments (which, for me, should mainly serve this purpose). However, I believe that when discussing a revolutionary work like this one, as rightly pointed out by :::Wanderer:::, and even if with different but very interesting nuances by :::Henry Purcell:::, I think one can use (as far as possible) a language that isn’t superficial without it becoming scandalous. In fact, I ask something of those who may know more than I do: within the sonata, I’ve perceived something that resembles ragtime and "improvisation" (I’ll post the sample of the passage later). Is it madness? Perhaps not, after reading what :::floydman::: has written as well; it’s curious to find these shared sensations.
Regarding Michelangeli's interpretation, dear :::Henry Purcell:::, I believe that beauty lies in that somewhat "limping," dragged out suffering passage of the first movement that becomes incredibly tempestuous. I have never heard this music in other interpretations like this. The arietta is then decidedly inspired, but I truly don’t know how to describe it. As an amateur, it struck me in an inexorable way. Difficult, really too difficult to explain better. The other theme of this proposal was related to interpretation. What are its characteristics? What is the role of the interpreter? I hoped other listening suggestions would emerge beyond this. Those of ::Mullah:: (Pollini
Alva Noto + Ryuichi Sakamoto Insen
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just a little oversight gabbox, hello :)
Ludwig Van Beethoven Sonata per pianoforte in do minore n. 32 op.111
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Interesting discussion, but I will need the weekend to read everything properly; you really can’t leave you alone for a moment ;)
Ludwig Van Beethoven Sonata per pianoforte in do minore n. 32 op.111
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On Tabucchi, I would say Pazienza, for the rest I'll respond as soon as I catch my breath :)
Gov't Mule Deja Voodoo
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I feel the same way, in fact, I relate to many of the words that Duane used. And live, they’re really amazing; there was an album that I loved like crazy, I'll look for the title later because I don’t remember it right now. Bye bye :)
Gov't Mule Deja Voodoo
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I remembered her because I commented on her :)
Gov't Mule Deja Voodoo
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There were no Mauri, but this review of the same album does justice to the sound of these people. Last year I listened to a ton of stuff from them, and I have to admit they had me hooked in a way that for a while I couldn't listen to anything else. I was struck by their pure, strong, powerful energy. Great.
Marco Zurzolo Band 7 e mezzo
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Mediterranean music then, seems very interesting, thank you :)
Ludwig Van Beethoven Sonata per pianoforte in do minore n. 32 op.111
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A quick thank you to everyone for reading; maybe later I’ll elaborate in the replies hoping not to bore you, but some interesting things have come up. Bye :)