dalida

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  • Zeb
    22 sep 12
    there's also alfred hitchcock all together :)
     
  • Dizbuster
    2 oct 12
    Shareable. Sounds good.
     
  • mild
    24 oct 12
    Well, making a ranking of only 10 directors seems too little to me; this way, great names are excluded. Anyway, good for Mario Monicelli and Ettore Scola.
     
  • dalida
    25 oct 12
    mild, you're right; in fact, I'm "building" my ranking little by little, adding the names of directors bit by bit, unable to create a clear order (in fact, the positions I give are fictional). We can fall in love with a director after watching just one film, or we might find ourselves rediscovering another one that we had set aside for a long time, so this is more of a map of directors who have touched my heart at different times and for different reasons than a proper ranking.
     
    • mild
      25 oct 12
      It's clear that a director is appealing because they reach the heart. Just to discuss a bit, Brian De Palma seems a bit too high-profile; now it's clear he has made memorable films that will remain cult classics, but with the passing of years, judging him with a more critical eye, he has made some terrible movies that detract from his standing. Often, in some films, the acting from certain actors is horrible, like in Carrie - Lo sguardo di Satana, an extraordinary film that I love a lot, but John Travolta and Nancy Allen are unwatchable.
  • dalida
    25 oct 12
    I saw Carrie a few days ago and I completely agree with what you say, but I want to reiterate that mine is not a true ranking; don't pay attention to the numbers. It's more of a list of directors that I like, maybe not even in an absolute sense, but simply because of one or two films they've made. Except for David Lynch, whose entire filmography I appreciate, even the short films.
     
    • mild
      25 oct 12
      David Lynch is not to be questioned, genius.
    • hjhhjij
      25 oct 12
      Whether Lynch is a genius, I don’t know; what is certain is that some of his films are brilliant.
    • dalida
      25 oct 12
      I would describe him more as a visionary than a genius, perhaps a bit eccentric, but with a great cinematic ability. Very often he is misunderstood, but after Twin Peaks and especially after the scene of the white horse emerging from the wall in Laura's mother's nightmares (see the work of Fuseli), I have never been the same.
    • hjhhjij
      25 oct 12
      I wouldn't call him misunderstood, though; he is a famous director, now widely recognized. A truly great director nonetheless, with few lows and many highs. By the way, "Mulholland Drive" is one of my all-time favorite films.
    • dalida
      25 oct 12
      Well, I mean, it can't be said that he's one of the most popular; a lot of people watching Mulholland Drive might be "slightly" taken aback—it's not exactly a film for everyone, just like all of his filmography. I appreciated Inland Empire too, even though it kept me awake and plunged me into a cosmic unease. In short, he's not a conventional director, and although his work has gained some recognition, most people know him by word of mouth or, after the first film, carefully avoid continuing to engage with his work. He's a niche author, and I love him for that.
    • hjhhjij
      25 oct 12
      He may not be famous to the vast majority, that's for sure, but you can't call him niche; that was back in the days of "Eraserhead." Mulholland Drive certainly surprises, it has to surprise, just like Lost Highways, Eraserhead, Inland Empire, and Rabbits. But trust me, Lynch is quite famous; of course, if you mention him, those who know a bit about cinema might have heard the name only because of Twin Peaks, but beyond that, for about the last twenty years, he can no longer be defined as "niche." "Most know him by hearsay or after the first film, they carefully avoid continuing to take an interest." If most people are used to Stallone movies or films by Vanzina, well, we can do without them :)
    • hjhhjij
      25 oct 12
      "if you name it, it has" If you name it to, fuck the rush.
    • dalida
      25 oct 12
      and we’re happy to do without it :) for me, being niche means that it doesn’t participate in major festivals, that it isn’t awarded too many accolades, that it doesn’t make a film a year because it has to make a niche film. For me, being niche means that it is rarely shown on television, means that big cinemas don’t schedule its films. So that’s what I think is niche; Ferreri is also niche even though many know him for La Grande Abbuffata and even though he worked with some of the most famous directors of all time; they are niche directors at heart who don’t want to attract a large audience, rather they want to distance themselves from it. Directors like these create films that are difficult to digest precisely for this reason, because those who appreciate them do so unconditionally, becoming attached to their works/creations and therefore to their world in a definitive and totalizing way.
    • hjhhjij
      25 oct 12
      More than niche, I think the exact term is: non-commercial or slightly commercial directors, that's it. Certainly, Inland Empire isn't for those who usually go to see comedies with Jim Carrey and say: "wow, Ace Ventura, what a masterpiece! :D" However, "Twin Peaks" definitely attracted a large audience, and since then Lynch is no longer really niche. Anyway, whether you think it's niche or not is relatively unimportant to me; what matters is that you like it ;)
    • dalida
      25 oct 12
      hahahaha okay, anyway you understand what I mean, but if the general public knows Twin Peaks and then watches it with a certain indifference, like they would watch an episode of a sitcom, that means it's not really known by the wider audience, it means they don't get it at all, and above all it means that Lynch has succeeded in his goal: not to become fodder for the business that revolves around cinema. Anyway, thanks for your contribution.
    • hjhhjij
      25 oct 12
      They look at it like an episode of Ris (I don’t know who they are, I mean I know who Ris are but I didn't know about a TV series), that's their problem, but I don’t think that’s what happens. Maybe...
  • dalida
    25 oct 12
    3.well, I would define him more as a visionary, maybe a bit eccentric, but with a great cinematic ability; he is often misunderstood, but after Twin Peaks and especially after the scene of the white horse emerging from the wall in Laura's mother's nightmares (see the work of Fuseli), I've never been the same.
     
  • hjhhjij
    25 oct 12
    Among other things, I share a lot of this ranking with Terry Gilliam (another visionary genius, Brazil is one of the greatest masterpieces of science fiction), Hitchcock (well...), Coppola (4 extraordinary films, among the most beautiful ever, and 2-3 really lovely ones) and Pasolini. I'll start watching the Coen brothers soon (for now I only know "No Country for Old Men," which is very beautiful). I like Allen at times ("Annie Hall" is a masterpiece), Monicelli is beyond discussion (those 5-6 films are truly beautiful, just beautiful). Von Trier, on the other hand, I like very little.
     
    • dalida
      25 oct 12
      It is very true that Allen is admirable at times, the Coens look at The Big Lebowski as genius; Lars von Trier is another who represents his strange world and one must delve deep into it to appreciate it, otherwise it can be bewildering, but in the negative sense of the term. Terry Gilliam is multifaceted and that is why I like him.
    • hjhhjij
      25 oct 12
      Yes, I've been recommended Big Lebowski by thousands :D I’ll see, I’ll see. Von Trier doesn't shock me; in fact, I see nothing at all in him. The fact remains that The Waves of Fate, Dogville, and Melancholia are decent/good films; I mean, I appreciated them nonetheless.
    • hjhhjij
      25 oct 12
      Yes, I've been recommended Big Lebowski by thousands :D I’ll see, I’ll see. Von Trier doesn't shock me; in fact, I see nothing at all in him. The fact remains that The Waves of Fate, Dogville, and Melancholia are decent/good films; I mean, I appreciated them nonetheless.
    • dalida
      25 oct 12
      I also think Melancholia is very beautiful; it has a haunting cinematography and is one of those few directors who, despite having made a film with virtually nonexistent dialogues, managed to express everything that words couldn't. That's a difficult thing to achieve, and I think he succeeded with this film and Ferreri with Dillinger Is Dead. Others, like Sofia Coppola in Lost in Translation, try to do the same believing they are creating works of art, but they fail miserably.
    • hjhhjij
      25 oct 12
      Here, I agree, except that for me Von Trier has also failed miserably XD Well, not miserably, that's too much. But he never fully convinces me, what can I do?
    • hjhhjij
      25 oct 12
      Just to be a pain in the ass, I have to ask you: Scorsese? (I only mentioned one to avoid being too annoying).
    • dalida
      25 oct 12
      And what can I say about Scorsese... I watched Goodfellas and Taxi Driver, and I liked both... one of the great masters of Hollywood anyway... well-made films that don’t require any further readings or insights, beautiful films that stand on their own. The documentary about the history of American cinema was also great, watched during my film history classes at university...
  • hjhhjij
    25 oct 12
    Ah, De Palma isn't bad either, but there are more bad things than good ones (Carlito's Way is very nice, The Phantom of the Opera, the first two independent films with a young De Niro, The Untouchables is also a good film). Scarface, while very entertaining as a cartoon, really annoys me :D
     
    • mild
      25 oct 12
      Exaggerated about Scarface, however Blow Out is overrated apart from Nancy Allen's poor performance.
    • hjhhjij
      25 oct 12
      "Exaggerated about Scarface" But me? No, it’s Scarface that’s exaggerated, hilarious look :D I prefer films of this kind to be at least a bit more realistic ("Goodfellas" teaches).
    • hjhhjij
      25 oct 12
      Blow Out is a half-ass mess, in my opinion.
    • mild
      25 oct 12
      Well, I consider Scarface one of De Palma's best; let's not forget it was written by Oliver Stone. Excessive for sure, but still beautiful.
    • hjhhjij
      25 oct 12
      No, but it's a great movie (I'm serious here), very funny more than anything, the ending is hilarious, it reminds me of the cartoons of Wile E. Coyote XD I know it’s written by Stone, it’s just that I like Stone even less than De Palma. Kudos to Stone for the ending, he clearly watched too many cartoons. In any case, Carlito's Way is much better (also Pacino is much less over the top, in Scarface it's unbearable, what the hell) and also The Untouchables (still in the gangster-movie De Palma theme) is, although much romanticized, better than Scarface. To each their own, anyway.
    • mild
      25 oct 12
      Blow Out is a film that aimed to pay tribute to our Michelangelo Antonioni with Blow-Up; in my opinion, it succeeded pretty well. Just to clarify, didn't you even like Antonioni's film?
    • hjhhjij
      25 oct 12
      I don't know Antonioni :)
    • mild
      25 oct 12
      I recommend you to watch Antonioni's because the ending is surreal like Lynch's films, you'll definitely like it.
    • hjhhjij
      25 oct 12
      Yes, it’s another director I want to delve into when I have some time. I love the surreal, to see the masterpieces of Bunuel (nothing compared to Lynch, with all the love I have for good David) and certain things by Ingmar Bergman (Hour of the Wolf).
    • dalida
      25 oct 12
      I also prefer Carlito's Way to Scarface, which I saw quite a long time ago... anyway, Al Pacino is a great actor, and the greatest can afford to be over the top.
  • dalida
    25 oct 12
    I also prefer Carlito's Way to Scarface, which I saw quite some time ago... Anyway, Al Pacino is a great actor, and the greatest can also afford to be over the top. :)
     
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