matteodi.leonar

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Non tenete conto dell'ordine. Lo schifo non si può classificare. Qualcuno mi chiederà: ma come, non ci hai messo quelli lì di Seattle, o quelli di "Miami"...? No, mi dispiace ma quelli hanno MOLTA più dignità della pattumiera che vedete qui sotto. Nei dischi di questi artisti la musica è morta.
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  • Felo
    Felo
    28 oct 11
    At least I would remove the Devo. As for the rest, I’m pleased to see that you had the restraint not to include the Gun Club. :D
     
  • matteodi.leonar
    matteodi.leonar
    28 oct 11
    @Felo. If you read the introduction, I explained why I didn't include them.
     
  • pirata
    pirata
    29 oct 11
    ZZ Top made great albums in the seventies.
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    29 oct 11
    I agree with the pirate, I wouldn't have included ZZ Top... they've done something good, and then damn, they are emblematic! :)
     
  • woodstock
    woodstock
    29 oct 11
    I agree with you on many things, but here I would have removed Depeche and Red Hot, of which at least a couple of albums each are really remarkable. The same goes for Zizzi, as mentioned above.
     
  • matteodi.leonar
    matteodi.leonar
    31 oct 11
    I don't compromise on Depeche and Red Hot, regardless of the recognizable value of some works: they are just so far removed from my understanding of music. ZZ Top were good up until albums like "Tres Hombres" or "Tejas," but they deserve to be punished for the abominable things they've done after '79, as well as for their truly unacceptable look.
     
  • SilasLang
    SilasLang
    13 dec 11
    The first of the Devo was a half masterpiece. As for the rest, I agree on everything.
     
  • Don_Pollo
    Don_Pollo
    13 dec 11
    Removing some songs by Depeche Mode and Devo that I like… F**KING A. Screw all these people. Although I save ZZ Top exclusively for their magnificent beards: Ingrandisci questa immagine
     
  • Karter4
    Karter4
    13 jan 12
    Um... why Def Leppard? What have they done to you?
     
  • matteodi.leonar
    matteodi.leonar
    13 jan 12
    I'm partially re-evaluating the Def (just a few things, though) lately, but for now, they are still way too far from my tastes. The ranking, however, is still partial.
     
  • Karter4
    Karter4
    14 jan 12
    I mean, let me get this straight. You created this ranking SOLELY based on your musical tastes?! Sorry to say it, but that's not fair at all!
     
  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    14 jan 12
    Many of the groups you've included I quite like, but it's clear that we have different tastes. It's very strange to see especially Kansas on this list.
     
  • popoloitaliano
    popoloitaliano
    14 jan 12
    Do I have to??? Are you crazy! Monkees, I just got 3 LPs, Damned, don’t even mention it, ELO, come on, rather the Supertramp and a good part of AOR, there’s plenty to discuss (the early Status Quo, for example)... anyway, tastes are...
     
  • March Horses
    March Horses
    14 jan 12
    Just add Manowar and we're all set...
     
  • matteodi.leonar
    matteodi.leonar
    14 jan 12
    @Karter. ONLY based on my musical tastes? Obviously not. But it’s equally obvious that those must count in a context like this; otherwise, there wouldn’t even be anyone (rightfully) placing King Crimson among the worst bands of all time, just to give you an example. There’s no correctness on Debaser, in the sense that opinions are exchanged and anyone can say anything.
     
  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    14 jan 12
    @karter: I don't understand, and based on what should the rankings be created if not on personal tastes?
     
  • matteodi.leonar
    matteodi.leonar
    14 jan 12
    @Fede. Hi, I’m glad to reconnect with you after a few spats that I could have easily avoided. It’s clear that some groups up here are terrible in their own right, in my opinion (and not just mine); for others (ZZ Top, Red Hot, maybe even the Pendragon), it’s about personal taste and opinion. For example, I’ve never agreed with ZZ Top's commercial turn in the '80s, which I believe is one of the most glaring blunders in rock (especially considering we’re talking about a band that had so much more potential and sold out). As for Kansas: many on Deb have labeled me as a defender of technique regardless, but their inclusion shows that this isn’t the case; they are frightening musicians, but also champions of bad taste, in my view. Just like Pallas. And of course, taste matters a lot: my friend once told me he wouldn’t include the Culture Club...
     
  • matteodi.leonar
    matteodi.leonar
    14 jan 12
    @Italian People. The Devo: what can I say about them? I've never liked them, to be honest, I've always found them annoying with their exhibitionism. I've never considered them that essential, either. I also read that some speak of them as the best New Wave group: for me, New Wave is Japan, the Cure, Echo, Siouxsie... Imagine if I could appreciate Blondie or the Cars. Always personal opinions, I want to reiterate that. As for the Damned, I didn't understand if they were worth mentioning for you or not.
     
  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    14 jan 12
    @matteo: you know I can't remember what arguments you're talking about? Fully agree on the terrible 80s of ZZ Top, absolutely not on the alleged "bad taste" of Kansas. Sure, the 80s weren't memorable for them either, but the 70s...
     
  • Karter4
    Karter4
    14 jan 12
    Well, I find it extremely exaggerated to say that in the albums of Def Leppard, Journey, Foreigner, Heart, etc., the music is even dead! It almost seems to me that you judge these bands only because you dislike them and not based on the music they make. Why don't you write a short but valid reasoning next to each artist, so that in the future there won't be other people like me asking you, "why this, why that?"
     
  • matteodi.leonar
    matteodi.leonar
    14 jan 12
    So I must have confused you with someone else, forgive me. I quite like the first two Kansas albums, but after that I just can't really get into them. Anyway, I always revisit things, so tastes can evolve as well. At the very least, Kansas might work their way back in for me in the future, who knows. That's not something I can say for others, though.
     
  • fedezan76
    fedezan76
    14 jan 12
    It's perfectly fine if some people don't like them. It's just that I've included only and exclusively what I absolutely can't stand among the worst artists/bands. But that's just my personal criterion.
     
  • matteodi.leonar
    matteodi.leonar
    14 jan 12
    @Karter. "Music is dead." But of course, it's always about music, yet I can't deny that certain AOR philosophy doesn't sit well with me. For example: I didn't include Toto, because I've always found them more original than other bands in the genre (and besides, Lukather and the Porcaro brothers are top-class musicians); on the other hand, I've never appreciated bands like Foreigner and Styx. Yes, you’re right, maybe I’ll throw in a couple of notes for the sake of completeness. But it doesn’t bother me at all to respond if anyone has something to say.
     
  • popoloitaliano
    popoloitaliano
    15 jan 12
    For me, exhibitionism is that of ELP, a good part of HM (someone mentioned Manowar), and, a little jab, the pose of Japan or The Cure, for example. If Devo are exhibitionists, then the entire Punk movement would be as well. Their approach was original and "theatrical" regarding the subject, certainly not just a pose. The Damned are to be salvaged (with their ups and downs) if only because they are partly responsible for the birth of punk in the USA.
     
  • popoloitaliano
    popoloitaliano
    15 jan 12
    On the contrary, I approve the no to ZZTop; I still remember those boring videos from the late 70s and early 80s... what a drag. And then there's the so-called neo(Genesis)-Prog, like Pallas and I'd say also Marillion. Depeche Mode - whom I don't like - should be respected for their tenacity (similar to the Metallica in this respect), and they've evidently been rewarded for it.
     
  • matteodi.leonar
    matteodi.leonar
    15 jan 12
    @People. You’re right, I would say I misspoke: the Devo’s was a "theatrical approach," rather than a form of exhibitionism. Japan paid a lot of attention to their image, certainly a legacy of the Glam philosophy they were formed by, and undoubtedly they had a decisive influence on the New-Romantic movement and its trends; that doesn’t take away from the undeniable greatness of Sylvian as a composer, and the same can be said for R. Smith. I could also save the Damned for their historical importance, mostly, and indeed I think I will save them.
     
  • matteodi.leonar
    matteodi.leonar
    15 jan 12
    Neo-Prog is a movement that has expressed many good things, but bands like Pendragon and Pallas (the latter being AOR disguised as fake Prog, by the way) deserve no consideration from me; even Marillion with Fish were on another level, although at times too much like pop songs.
     
  • Peppe Weapon
    Peppe Weapon
    16 jan 12
    I can somewhat understand the ELO (the early albums are a whole different story), but the Devo... LOL!
     
  • il Commodoro
    il Commodoro
    22 nov 12
    I don't see some of them as that negative, but in fact, none of them is essential.
     
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