Worst artist of all time
in realtà è la classifica dei peggior chitarristi
<b>The Edge</b>

1

The Edge

definirlo chitarrista è già di per sè una dimostrazione di coraggio!
<b>John Frusciante</b>

2

John Frusciante

vabè poveretto, almeno lui è consapevole dei suoi evidenti limiti!
<b>John Petrucci</b>

3

John Petrucci

sopravvalutato ma almeno un minimo di tecnica cel'ha in confronto a the edge!
<b>Kurt Cobain</b>

4

Kurt Cobain

diciamo solo che è vero quello che dice mikey rourke nel film "the wrestler"
<b>Kirk Hammett</b>

5

Kirk Hammett

nella classifica della rivista rolling stones è addirittura due posizioni dopo jimmy page, come per dire che è quasi allo stesso livello
<b>Johnny Ramone</b>

6

Johnny Ramone

l'essenza dell imbarazzo
<b>Jack White</b>

7

Jack White

ma allora la suonano proprio tutti la chitarra...
<b>Yngwie J. Malmsteen</b>

8

Yngwie J. Malmsteen

ma che roba è? fa sembrare frusciante un chitarrista!
<b>Michael Angelo Batio</b>

9

Michael Angelo Batio

in uno spettacolo circense andrebbe bene!
<b>Pino Daniele</b>

10

Pino Daniele

se quello suona la chitarra io che divento? un astrofisico nucleare (cit.)
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Comments on this chart
  • Felo
    Felo
    29 may 11
    Come on, John, you’re doing well not just as a guitarist. Johnny too! Anyway, I’d see John Petrucci at the top :D
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    29 may 11
    I true Petrucci, I forgot that he was one of the most overrated in history!
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    29 may 11
    Yes, Petrucci put it in. The first place is sacred.
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    29 may 11
    due to popular demand, Petrucci has been added! but only second because I really can't stand The Edge! (actually, sorry, it's not that I can't stand him, poor guy is doing his best, I can't stand those who worship him like a god)
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    29 may 11
    Well, I can't stand Petrucci but he's got the technique (in fact, his problem is the opposite of The Edge's; Petrucci uses technique too much), The Edge isn't exactly a guitarist.
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    29 may 11
    holy words hihihih holy words!
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    29 may 11
    I would be curious to know your favorite guitarists ;)
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    29 may 11
    by genre or randomly?
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    29 may 11
    let's say that when it comes to guitars, I prefer the blues ones (Clapton, BB King, Albert King, Stevie Ray Vaughan, etc...) for rock I absolutely love (Jimmy Page, Van Halen, Angus Young, Gary Moore, Mark Knopfler) and in metal the undisputed god is Tony Iommi, then there's Michael Schenker and KK and Tipton from Judas Priest. But I've left out so many others because I admire, in general, all guitarists who convey emotions with their instrument!
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    29 may 11
    and the aforementioned ones don't transmit a damn thing except embarrassment for the guitar hero category!
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    29 may 11
    Here, people like Knopfler, Page, Moore, Tipton, Iommy are quite appealing to me as well ;) I would also add prog-oriented guitarists like Steve Hackett (exceptional in the classical field too) and Robert Fripp, for example.
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    29 may 11
    I completely agree, but even though they are incredible guitarists, I find it a bit hard to listen to them because of the music genre! For example, Pat Metheny, Al Di Meola, John McLaughlin, and Paco de Lucía are monsters in terms of technique and creativity, but it's not the kind of music I listen to! One guy that I really love, even though he played a beat-up guitar, is John Fogerty from Creedence! I absolutely adore that rural sound!
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    29 may 11
    The ones you've mentioned are among my idols (especially McLaughlin), and I'm glad you recognize their greatness even if it's not your genre; I'm crazy about progressive and Jazz-rock, which is why I brought them up.
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    29 may 11
    well damn, when it comes to technique I think they give enough crap to anyone, maybe even to my favorite Clapton and it costs me a lot to say this! ahahah
    anyway, one last question to see if we’re really on the same wavelength. who do you think is the best Italian guitarist? regardless of the genre
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    29 may 11
    MMM. Unfortunately, I don't know many Italian guitarists; I think of Tolo Marton, Mussida, and a few others. There are surely talented ones, but my knowledge is limited to Progressive. Anyway, Clapton (whom I greatly admire as a guitarist, both technically and artistically) is definitely technically inferior to the monsters mentioned above.
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    29 may 11
    The Italians you've mentioned, I don't know them, maybe because my answer to my question would have been "why are there guitarists in Italy." Anyway, putting aside the Clapton discussion because for me it feels like talking about a relative of mine (I'm joking, of course). Anyway, if you listen to that music, I’d say that among your idols there’s also Jaco Pastorius as a bassist? Or am I talking nonsense?
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    29 may 11
    No, you definitely do NOT say a bullshit. Best bassist in history, period. Pastorius with the bass is for me what Clapton is for you on the guitar. God.
    As for extra-prog Italian guitarists, I actually think there are few; in progressive, there are some really skilled ones technically (like Tolo Marton).
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    29 may 11
    I don’t know who they are, but they’re definitely better than Pino Daniele, Alex Britti, or Cremonini!
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    29 may 11
    Just a bit :D. Anyway, Britti is technically good, it's the repertoire that sucks, and a lot too. I personally can't stand Daniele, Cremonini... is he a guitarist?
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    29 may 11
    well, of course Britti is good compared to the average Italian guitarists, maybe...
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    29 may 11
    Yes, but he shamelessly squanders his talent, and that's why I'm quite fed up with him.
    Anyway, I'm listening to Genesis now, what a drummer Collins was in the '70s!
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    29 may 11
    Yes, but the problem is that it's not clear what you want from a guitarist. It's not a matter of technique given the names you mention. Or if it is, then I throw my hands up since, apart from Schenker and Van Halen, they are, by no means, technical wizards. The issue is that a guitarist must have a personal style and sound that fits the band they belong to or their music in general if they are a solo artist. I couldn't care less about Jack White. And even less about Petrucci. But Mr. Edge, Cobain, Frusciante, Johnny Ramone, and even Hammett himself all have distinctive, recognizable, original, and innovative styles and sounds, if we want to call it that. Simple styles, but not trivial (...)
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    29 may 11
    (...) to be specific, the Edge of the '80s was the soul of a band's sound that, whether we like it or not, made history in those years and nonetheless produced great albums (as I’ve always said, up to Rattle and Hum). Johnny Ramone never claimed to be a guitarist; for him, the guitar was simply a means to express a musical attitude (he could have just as easily been a bassist or a drummer, not that he dreamed of becoming a guitar hero since he was a kid). The music of the Ramones expressed a radical change in rock, something necessary for music. An urgency and a complete indifference that inspired thousands of bands and movements (...)
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    29 may 11
    Style, recognizable sound, original, innovative: Steve Hackett and Robert Fripp, not Ramone and Hammett :D
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    29 may 11
    (...) the same argument can be made for Cobain, who doesn't make sense to judge as "one of the worst guitarists," since he was first and foremost a songwriter and someone who screamed what he felt with his own voice. The guitar was simply a tool to accompany the simple and direct music he composed, which also defined an era. Frusciante, I admit I'm biased, but he is a well-rounded artist; I don't know if you have ever listened to his solo albums, I really don't think so. Of course, it's not like you should expect albums filled with guitar virtuosity or anything (...).
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    29 may 11
    (...) in short, everyone can suck for you, but this ranking makes no sense because most of those listed shouldn't be superficially judged as more or less skilled guitarists ("they don't convey a damn thing other than embarrassment for the guitar hero category!"... THEY are not guitar heroes - who the hell cares about the stupid RS USA rankings - and you still have to speak personally) but music/period/influence etc. must be contextualized, as I briefly tried to do; maybe it's you who doesn't have a clear idea of what it means to be a true guitarist. For me, it means: style, ideas, attitude, a recognizable and personal sound.
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    29 may 11
    (:D)
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    29 may 11
    For example, I don’t seek nothingness (The Edge, Ramone) in a guitarist; there are guitarists who may not be very technical but have created a personal sound and have done much better than the two mentioned above, such as David Gilmour, whom I adore ;)
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    29 may 11
    It's true that Cobain is more of a songwriter than a guitarist, but in the guitar field, he was actually worth nothing; when it comes to songwriting, well, that's a matter of taste.
     
  • Fairy Feller
    Fairy Feller
    29 may 11
    the worst artists this seems a bit strange to me honestly. Anyway, I only saw part of The Wrestler, and it bored me. What does it say regarding Kurt Cobain?
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    29 may 11
    In short, it makes sense for me to include those fuckin' idiots like Petrucci, Malmsteen, and similar scum... they pretend to be guitarists but are just idiotic clowns... do you get what I mean?
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    29 may 11
    Hey, sorry, but if you don't grasp the essence of the simplicity in Edge and Johnny Ramone's styles, it doesn't mean they are "nothing"... said with love, of course ;)
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    29 may 11
    Yes, your viewpoint is clear, whether it's shareable or not ;)
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    29 may 11
    In fact, they are nothing to me, not in an absolute sense ;)
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    29 may 11
    Even good old Kirk has style. The Metallica don’t mean anything to me anymore, not even during the Thrash era, but you can't say they don't have their own style or that they haven't come up with some great solos. Come on.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    29 may 11
    In the first 3 albums I can grant you that, but I'd rather have about 50 other guitarists, technical or not ;)
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    29 may 11
    What the hell does it mean to have your own style???? Even I, who have never picked up a guitar, would have my own style! (a shitty style, but still my style)
    We're talking about technique, inventiveness, creativity, the ability to improvise—not the bullshit that gets said about The Edge being good with effects! He should go play the synth then!
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    29 may 11
    Well, if you don't know what it means for a musician to have their own style, I can't add anything else.
     
  • Fairy Feller
    Fairy Feller
    29 may 11
    @Chinaski: sorry to intrude, can you tell me what it says in the Kurt Cobain movie :D
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    29 may 11
    Here we go, let's not add anything more. Because if you come to me now and say that the only thing to judge a guitarist is style, maybe it's better not to say anything more! Frusciante is better than Knopfler for his style???????
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    29 may 11
    @fairy hey, it's been about 3-4 years since I last saw that movie, but the scene where Mikey says something like "real music ended with the arrival of Kurt Cobain" really stuck with me, if not exactly that, something very similar!
     
  • Fairy Feller
    Fairy Feller
    29 may 11
    @China: ah, here. Thanks. I didn't like Mickey much in that movie. anyway, great actor.
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    29 may 11
    Chinaski, it's clear that we have opposing views. I couldn't care less about technique (but look, Clapton technically isn't a phenomenon, he also plays on style—same goes for Knopfler, whom I adore, for that matter). I don't really care about Frusciante the guitarist (I've never said he's better than one or the other, maybe you haven't quite understood my reasoning). I love his solo albums (I recommend you listen to them) where he's the first to completely disregard the definition of guitar hero. I repeat: the names you've mentioned are out of place because we're talking about artists/authors (Frusciante, Cobain) or guitarists who couldn't care less about technique and similar nonsense (Edge, Johnny, and even Hammett). It seems that yours is a matter of antipathy toward the guitarists ranked high in the RS USA list.
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    29 may 11
    for the record, Rourke basically says "since Cobain showed up, the fun is over," referring to the disappearance of the glam/hair scene (God bless Kurt for this too). NOT "real music ended with the arrival of Kurt Cobain"... come on, let's not go there. "guns-crue-def leppard..." you tell me if this would be music instead -.- and I haven't seen the film
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    29 may 11
    I mentioned those because they are among the worst I know, yet paradoxically some of the most idolized. Anyway, earlier you said, "it's not a matter of technique given the names you mentioned. Or if it is, then I raise my hands since, aside from Schenker and Van Halen, they're certainly not technical phenomena." I would say I won't waste any more time discussing this with you. If there's someone who has mentioned guitarists more technical than those I've mentioned, it was hjhjhjhj before, but in rock, blues, and metal, show me some better ones since you act so knowledgeable!
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    29 may 11
    and anyway he says "cobain that faggot came to ruin everything"
    great mikey!
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    29 may 11
    In fact, in that first comment I was primarily asking you what the concept of a guitarist means to you. So is your conception based on this? I'm not trying to be condescending, but I have extensively argued how and why this ranking doesn't make sense to me. Want names? Petrucci, Vai, Malmsteen, Satriani, Gilbert, Friedman... total wankers, basically. Now I can't think of any others. In blues, technique isn't really a requirement.
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    29 may 11
    Are Clapton, BB King, Albert King, Stevie Ray Vaughan technical, in your opinion? At most, Stevie Ray, but we’re always talking about rock blues, so simple music. Is Jimmy Page technical, in your opinion?
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    29 may 11
    But those people don’t make music and I don’t consider them guitarists! Those are Guinness World Record folks, not people who can make a record! I’m talking about serious guitarists. Page isn’t a technical monster, but if style is everything as you say, well, his was unmistakable! SO NOW YOU WANT TO TELL ME THAT CLAPTON IS NOT TECHNICAL! Okay, now I understand many of the comments I read here about you! Good night!!
     
  • ProgRock
    ProgRock
    29 may 11
    Rustling in a ranking of the worst?! I mean, besides being unfair, this is an attack on the well-being of Teenage, to which I say welcome back :)
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    29 may 11
    Sure! Style is what matters. So now do you begin to understand what it means to have style? Page has style. I repeat: the guitarists in this ranking aren't even real guitarists... Cobain, Johnny, Edge never knew how to play the guitar because they didn't give a damn, they focused on their music and what they wanted to express with a few chords, with simple and direct music. They never cared about being guitar heroes (given that you chose the phrase "they're a disgrace to guitar heroes"), so it makes no sense to judge them as more or less skilled guitarists. You only picked the highest names from the RS USA ranking, choosing those who are technically the weakest. So you didn't even get that ranking, which didn't care about technical aspects at all, but focused on style/innovation/influence.
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    29 may 11
    No, Clapton isn't technical. I'm sorry. I really like him, you know, he's a great guitarist but he focuses on style. If you look for technically better guitarists than Eric, you can find thousands. The comments you come across about me? I couldn't care less about those, let alone if you should be interested in them...
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    29 may 11
    ahaha thanks Prog :) but in the end, I've only been 2 weeks without commenting :) it's just that tonight I'm all alone and I couldn't resist in this case :D
     
  • madcat
    madcat
    29 may 11
    First of all, I totally quote teenage (welcome back!!). The bullshit said in The Wrestler about Cobain is, as Fantozzi would say, crazy, obviously tailored to the character who indeed adored (ugh) the gansenrosis. The fact that Cobain didn’t express anything with the instrument is an even bigger bullshit, and the same goes for Frusciante or The Edge.
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    29 may 11
    No dear boy, perhaps we didn't understand each other! The guitarist is judged as an artist 360 degrees! Page is not a technical whiz, but he's an amazing musician! BB King isn't a super technician and is as ignorant as a goat when it comes to playing technique, yet he produces sounds that make me feel like I'm in heaven! These are the usual discussions where no one will ever come out on top! But for crying out loud, I just can't accept comparing the names on my list to those I've mentioned afterward as my favorites. And then, excuse me, tell me about the style, the innovation, and the influence that someone like Frusciante has had, for example! (Anyway, in the end, I believe you're right; maybe I messed up the rankings because these aren't even guitarists).
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    29 may 11
    Well, then listen to your "fucking guitarists" and stop bothering me with your rankings! Happy for you that you think you're listening to guitar sounds, happy everyone!
    p.s. I didn't say Clapton is the most technical in the world, I said he's very technical anyway!
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    30 may 11
    Yes, but you were the one to put these among the worst and then mention your favorites, that’s a pretty fucked up comparison (indirect, but still a comparison), so you did it. Don’t you think? I didn’t make any comparison. I was just trying to understand where you were going with your concept of a guitarist, if for you it’s a matter of technique or what. You have contradicted yourself multiple times, sometimes bringing up the technical aspect, sometimes, like now, with style and the way of playing. I reiterate that I don’t even regard John Frusciante as a guitarist; I’m interested in him as an artist (and anyway, even with the Red Hot he had – had, thank God that chapter is forever closed – style, and if you don't recognize it, amen) "maybe I messed up the ranking because these aren’t guitarists" there you go. So I’ve always been right from the beginning.
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    30 may 11
    Of course, everyone listens to whatever they like, including you. It's just that someone who listens to Edge (so U2), Frusciante, Cobain (so Nirvana), and Johnny Ramone (so Ramones) doesn't expect "guitar sounds"... (whatever that means) but only music.
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    30 may 11
    (thank you also to Mad for the welcome back :) )
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    30 may 11
    Ahhhhhhh now I understand everything! You don't give a damn about what I look for in a guitarist! It bothers you because Frusciante is the 4th best artist of all time for you. Let's clarify once and for all my concept of a guitarist and then I'll go to sleep. For me, a guitarist must primarily convey emotions, they must create melodies that transport you to another dimension, and of course, I also want them to perform a unique melody in the best possible way, with technique or not. Because when Page played the 20-minute solo of Dazed and Confused at Madison Square Garden, I saw little technique, but it's still one of the best pieces I've ever heard! Now, having explained this, I tell you that in my opinion, those in the rankings do not have these qualities! I repeat, FOR ME, IT'S A MATTER OF TASTE, I CONSIDER THEM EMINENT IDIOTS, MAYBE YOU APPRECIATE THEM! I hope I've been clear and I hope we won't hate each other for this now! Bye and goodnight.
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    30 may 11
    I really cared about understanding and discussing. I think I've extensively argued my position. Anyway, don't worry, I'm not bothered at all. I just pointed out how completely out of place and nonsensical it was to include those names, justifying it with "they're the embarrassment of the guitar hero category"... when they don't give a damn or have ever cared to be part of it. (Guitar hero is such an annoying and stupid term, usually thrown around recklessly to define and group together people like Vai, Petrucci, etc., sometimes even including names that have nothing to do with it, like Stevie Ray, for example). But no, I don't hate you; come on, why would I "hate" a user over issues like these? P.S.: For me, Frusciante is not the fourth greatest artist of all time but the absolute greatest (musical) artist of all time, alongside those other three who precede him in that ranking :P Hi and goodnight to you too... even though it's early, come on ;)
     
  • Darkeve
    Darkeve
    30 may 11
    Chuck Berry about Kurt Cobain: "he had a touch most guitarists would kill for"…
     
  • Fairy Feller
    Fairy Feller
    30 may 11
    Ah, I didn’t realize the ranking was about guitarists... I really like Cobain; however, I wouldn't call him a guitarist. The best guitarist for me is undoubtedly Malmsteen, but I don’t have the same expertise as you guys hehhe :D Anyway, great comment about Jack White (even though I don’t know who he is).
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    30 may 11
    ERIC CLAPTON ACCORDING TO TEEN IS NOT TECHNICAL!

    Eric Clapton - I Shot The Sheriff (Live from Crossroads 2010)
     
  • Darkeve
    Darkeve
    30 may 11
    I’m intervening with my humble opinion, not to stir controversy: the ranking makes little sense... in the sense that it doesn’t evaluate a fundamental characteristic that goes beyond technique and style (which I still consider very important), namely: INTENTION... a guitarist like Ramone is perfect for the intentions of the group: straightforward, driving, fast, immediate music... so he does his job well... Cobain’s intention: anger, explosion... his way of playing makes you feel the sweat, makes you feel the pain; it’s as if he struggles to play, not due to a lack of technique, but because of a pain (like in the fingers, the hands, the soul)... Frusciante the same, maintains the intention of the RHCP (and as a solo artist, he’s very interesting), that is to say, that carefree energy... Frusciante has the groove; it’s not just bass and drums... he’s one of the guitarists who brings the most groove (even though Morello is unbeatable).
     
  • Darkeve
    Darkeve
    30 may 11
    ...Edge's intentions elude me too, honestly (I can't stand U2), Jack White is a great guitarist (sometimes minimal, sometimes very refined)... when it comes to Petrucci, we aren't talking about intention, but about masturbation (in short, it's nonsense)... this rant surely won't change your mind... I've just said my piece (I play the guitar...) bye
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    30 may 11
    Guys, at this point it's purely a matter of taste; I think they suck and I'm happy for you that you consider them great! Stop!!!
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    30 may 11
    this is my ranking... I didn't say it has to work for everyone! the only thing that bothered me is hearing that Clapton has no technique! but I can't continue if someone thinks that way...
     
  • Darkeve
    Darkeve
    30 may 11
    but in fact if you rename the ranking: guitarists that make me shit the conversation changes... ;)
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    30 may 11
    Yes, but it shouldn't bother you the Clapton-technical issue... in the end, who cares if Clapton is technical or not? He has style, class, taste, a personal touch... that's why he's a great guitarist. But he's also someone who, throughout his career, has played rock blues; his music has never been particularly difficult. At most, in Cream, but other than that, he never focused on that. Mainly because he himself didn't care and knew it didn't make sense, and also because he knew he wasn't a virtuoso. These technical competitions are like a game of who has the bigger one... But if we really want to talk about technique, there are definitely better rock blues guitarists out there. Eric himself has always known he was worth much less than people he played with, like, for example, Duane Allman, Jeff Beck, or Stevie Ray. That's it.
     
  • Schizoid Man
    Schizoid Man
    30 may 11
    welcome back to that filthy hysterical queen of teenage! already without a potato? :D
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    30 may 11
    It annoys me simply because I know that for what he does, he has plenty of skill; then it’s clear that Steve Vai is more technical! That’s not what I meant, though...
     
  • Black Wings
    Black Wings
    15 jun 11
    By your own admission, you listened to an album by Pino Daniele, and you don't know which one, distractedly during a car journey. However, you place it among the worst of all time. These are not the artists you think are the worst; they are the ones that get on your nerves personally. You always talk about The Edge, but I believe that with U2, we would be lucky if you've even listened to the last two singles. That said, enjoy the rest.
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    15 jun 11
    I couldn’t care less about your opinion; if it bothers you to find out that the best Italian guitarist is actually garbage, that's your problem.
     
  • Black Wings
    Black Wings
    15 jun 11
    Cazzoncello has never said that he is the best Italian guitarist. So is it crap who says it? The one who finds Area awful? Then pardon...
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    15 jun 11
    You're a great black, you really know your art! ;)
     
  • teenagelobotomy
    teenagelobotomy
    15 jun 11
    "it bothers you to discover that the best Italian guitarist is actually crap" did you manage to figure this out?! no one has ever said he’s the best Italian guitarist, that’s your problem: you judge without knowing and only because of your personal dislikes and mental gymnastics. you realize, don’t you, that you can’t judge an artist as "crap" after listening to just one random album (Pino Daniele has made many albums and lived through different periods...) in the car and without enthusiasm? can you reach this conclusion?! unfortunately, I don’t think so. even in this case, I fear that your dislikes stem from your usual mental gymnastics about guitar techniques, and once again, you haven’t understood that we’re not talking about guitarists but about authors...
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    16 jun 11
    Teen, the only one who doesn't realize something is you. You don't realize that I judge crap as I please and I don't have to answer to anyone. P.S. I've only listened to 2 songs by Lady Gaga and I feel entitled to say she sucks. And you're right about one thing, Pino gets on my nerves.
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    16 jun 11
    And then excuse me, if you're so sure that he's an incredible artist, why the hell do you keep responding to me??? If you had no doubts, maybe you wouldn't do it, yet I say that deep down, you know it too…. ahahaha
     
  • ce84
    ce84
    20 jun 11
    Pino Daniele in a ranking of guitarists - whether good or not - is a stretch, considering his true dimension is singer-songwriter. It's also a stretch to include Jack White, Johnny Ramone, Kurt Cobain, and then what the hell does Cesare Cremonini have to do with it??? It seems like a ranking of guitarists made by someone who really knows very few guitarists.
     
  • ce84
    ce84
    20 jun 11
    I pretty much agree with the analysis of teenagelobotomy. I would add that Clapton has been living off the profits of what he did in the sixties for 40 years now.
     
  • Francesco 1987
    Francesco 1987
    11 sep 11
    I would put Malmsteen and Cremonini in the lead... and have you ever heard Richard Benson? You could listen to him on the album by the band Il Buon Vecchio Charlie, but go check a bit on YouTube to see what he has become after...
     
  • Francesco 1987
    Francesco 1987
    11 sep 11
    Even though I don't really understand what Cremonini has to do with it, in fact... have some fun: ; ;
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    11 sep 11
    No, I'm sorry bro, I won't even consider Benson! I saw your links and they confirm I'm right not to learn more about him! ;)
     
  • Francesco 1987
    Francesco 1987
    11 sep 11
    hahaha please you have to see the latest link then:
    STUNNING live performance!!!!!
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    11 sep 11
    hahaha what a fucking clown! I wonder why all these clowns are Italians???
     
  • Francesco 1987
    Francesco 1987
    11 sep 11
    A million-dollar question...
     
  • Felo
    Felo
    25 sep 11
    Eric Clapton shit.
     
  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    25 sep 11
    Well done, Felo, I was just about to ask for your opinion...
     
  • enzodistefano
    enzodistefano
    4 feb 12
    Oh my God! But you are all so twisted here!
     
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