TheJargonKing

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  Emme.

  8 may 12

  Joy Division have very little New Wave. Cure too high.

   

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    jdv666

    8 may 12

    How would you define them, excuse me? Or do you distinguish between new-wave (more synth-pop oriented) and post-punk (more hardcore)?
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    Emme.

    8 may 12

    No, but there is also the harder New Wave without synthpop. Although they are usually two genres that go hand in hand (New Wave and Post Punk), Joy Division preferred to be influenced by Gothic Rock rather than New Wave itself.
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    jdv666

    8 may 12

    But doesn't goth also always stem from new wave? Like Siouxsie, PIL, etc., who are sometimes also classified as dark wave? However, I would say that the JD influenced new wave more than they were influenced, since they were among the first.
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    Emme.

    8 may 12

    Ahah yes, but in a ranking of the best New Wave bands, it would make more sense to see Joy Division lower down compared to other artists. Not because they are inferior, but because they don’t fully belong to the genre in question. Do you see what I mean?
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    TheJargonKing

    8 may 12

    Yes, your point is very clear, but there was also a temporal aspect. At that time, many groups that were only marginally part of the new wave were included in the mix simply due to timing. Moreover, by buying their records, I was convinced I was purchasing new wave.
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    jdv666

    8 may 12

    @emme: I understand :)
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  popoloitaliano

  8 may 12

  Jargon, I'm surprised you didn't include the Ludus, forgot about them?

   

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    TheJargonKing

    8 may 12

    Forgotten Ludus. Indeed very nice also for their almost jazz-like intrusions and the carefree spirit of their music. As if they wanted to make a Canterbury Sound statement within the new wave. Very interesting.
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    popoloitaliano

    9 may 12

    In fact, Canterbury Sound is the most intriguing (Caravan and Camel, I would say) and exotic in the style of the Monochrome Set. Ah, I almost forgot... full support for XTC at the top of the list.
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  jdv666

  8 may 12

  more than anything I would say TH definitely too low! good job though for the underrated japan ;)

   

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    TheJargonKing

    8 may 12

    rightly get up ...thank you
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  TheJargonKing

  8 may 12

  True, this was a bit of a work in progress but then I abandoned it, so many names are missing and some are not in the right place. In fact, the TH after the Icehouse really don't belong there... sooner or later I'll sit down to modify and complete it. Thank you.

   

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