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How much I like Amorphis... I haven't read the review because I want to listen to the album later and not take it into account until then, but I appreciate the intent. I've only listened to Silver Bride, and I found it stunning.

I find her an pleasantly unique character... sudden success with big hits, then she disappears into thin air, but she's around, and every now and then she makes her presence felt without making too much noise. I must say I share the positive drive.

The bourgeois and capitalist mindset has monopolized Italy for forty years, certainly not the left, which has never been in power, unless we bring into play the usual unlikely theories of lobby and completely fictional conspiracies, for which, on the other hand, there is evidence (P2, Tangentopoli..) despite the crazy disinformation surrounding these issues, considering not only the involvement of politicians but even of show business figures. Luttazzi from the right... I would like to know some names. Aside from the usual clowns on the news, but those are neither artists nor satirical authors, and they have as much media visibility as they want. There are still no arguments that go beyond lies or inventions. No names, no facts, demonstrating that you have only stolen so far and that you fill the heads of Italians with nonsense just because you can cover your backs with money.

It’s spelled “inetto.” But is this the kind of person we should be discussing with? Forget about the free exchange of opinions; how can you not let yourselves be insulted? We even portray Berlusconi as a martyr: you don’t need to be a genius to see that it doesn’t hold up. I don’t expect any supporter of Berlusconi to have the intellectual honesty to admit it, since, I repeat, until now the only arguments have been to deny things to the point of absurdity. And when possible, perhaps make up some as well. Unfortunately for you, sooner or later the (dirty) money runs out, and then I want to see how the disinformation system stands up.

It seems there's a vacuum in your head. You served it to me on a silver platter.

Apart from the fact that there would be a lot of objections to raise here, some people do not clearly understand the concept of satire or that of freedom of opinion, but these are not concepts invented by Luttazzi and Travaglio; they are matters for which there are ongoing legal proceedings and are legal realities. How can one say that these are things that are neither in heaven nor on earth? Anyway, in part I feel relieved, if the average quality of the arguments made by those who support Berlusconi is what can be seen on this page. Deny to the point of impossibility, as long as the money is there.

Grillo? The one with the "vaffanculo," but less vulgar? At least Luttazzi's vulgarity is artistically justified (according to what he claims, satire also relies on bodily functions, for example, and as far as I know, that's not incorrect). Grillo is perhaps less vulgar in the common sense of the term, because statistically he says "fewer swear words," but only in that sense. And he doesn’t make me laugh, unlike Luttazzi (even though in Decameron, for instance, he preferred irreverence to comedy). But these are just tastes.

But it’s not that it’s the miraculous objective truth, it’s the truth from a legal standpoint, so it’s not defamation, as you claimed. Anyway, we’re discussing grammar here, not politics anymore. That it may also be the truth in a broader sense, I believe, because Travaglio and others have written about it with arguments (contrary to what you’re doing, responding superficially and in a populist way) and until proven otherwise, there’s no reason to doubt. One could add that it’s much more likely for the judiciary to side with the Prime Minister, a billionaire who can definitely afford a better defense than his opponents (as demonstrated by the numerous dismissals), but at this point, it seems unnecessary.

One, no, it’s the truth and that’s it, Luttazzi won the case, you said something ridiculous, it’s not defamation. You can’t escape with this nonsensical nonsense. Two, so well protected that Berlusconi spoke out and the next day three people were out of a job. But not just Luttazzi, also an institution like Biagi. I really wonder where you’ve been for the last five years. Russia, let’s take an even more drastic example, let’s go and do satire in Rwanda: you can’t, they’re worse off than us, it’s true, so what? Do we stop complaining, just take it up the ass and that’s it? Where’s the point? If Berlusconi does something stupid, are we supposed to let him get away with it because in Rwanda you can’t even do satire?

It's not defamation, it's the truth. Luttazzi won the case against Mediaset and Forza Italia. And finally, yes, in a democracy it's normal.